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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 05 2021 23:43 GMT
#1521
I mean... come on.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 06 2021 18:36 GMT
#1522
On August 06 2021 07:36 RenSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2021 07:17 Emnjay808 wrote:
$XELA will be interesting next week. I don’t think there’s another security that I have had more confidence in. Almost seems too good to be true. I diverted half my portfolio into it, ready to average down the other half if I have to.

Any particular reason why you think it’s good? I’m seeing a small software company with negative earnings. Its price has been reasonably flat all year, but it’s way off its 5 year high.

Something special about its HR outsourcing service it’s releasing?

Nothing new about the fundamentals of the company (that I know of at least). Earnings report comes out the 10th, that’s why I said it’ll be interesting. I’m feeling bullish as I feel this is a good entry point since this has short squeeze potential as well (Im aware HFs manage squeezes a lot better now). But I’m not expecting jackpot either. Idk I just like the stock.
Skol
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 11 2021 17:04 GMT
#1523
Oof I was finally green in SPCE and forgot to set stop sell. Now I’m eating it hard cause of Morgan Stanley. This stock is so hated lol.
Skol
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-11 18:16:15
August 11 2021 18:09 GMT
#1524
Hold, I once held 100 shares of Virgin Galactic and when it fell below $23, mainly due to the fact it was not known if they would launch any time soon, I sold all of it. Sure enough they soon announced a launch date and only could buy back 55 shares, which I now hold. Regret it ever since.

Keep in mind SPCE moves up and down but also has ties with their sister company Virgin Orbit which can launch satellites. So their success moves SPCE as well. Also why I am not selling #VACQ hopefully soon to be $RKLB

Edit: RIP to those that still hold $HOOD
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 11 2021 18:45 GMT
#1525
I’m 100@33.5 with SPCE. I’ve held NIO at worst times but at least I had better confidence in that stock. SPCE is just so hard to get a grip on, that’s why I don’t understand all the bears.
Skol
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-11 20:15:25
August 11 2021 20:13 GMT
#1526
I hold SPCE, but honestly, I think we're about to enter another bear market due to delta variations. What we're seeing here I think is starting to price in the possible shutdown looming. Gotta cash out to get good stuffs later when it dips right? But then you also have inflation, so I feel like cashing out right now isn't even worth it since your dollars are going to be worth less in the long run... Kinda weird spot once again.

I just prefer to buy and hold at this point. Gotta get those avg's better right?
Life?
GoTuNk!
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Chile4591 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-12 01:15:29
August 12 2021 01:13 GMT
#1527
On August 12 2021 05:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I hold SPCE, but honestly, I think we're about to enter another bear market due to delta variations. What we're seeing here I think is starting to price in the possible shutdown looming. Gotta cash out to get good stuffs later when it dips right? But then you also have inflation, so I feel like cashing out right now isn't even worth it since your dollars are going to be worth less in the long run... Kinda weird spot once again.

I just prefer to buy and hold at this point. Gotta get those avg's better right?


I'd just hold tbh 1)not sure lockdowns will come back 2) not all states will accept lockdowns 3) will sp500 companies really lose profit over lockdowns?

Edit: talking about sp500, not SPCE specifically. Don't know enough about the stock to evaluate particularly. 2020 march panick won't happen again.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24784 Posts
August 12 2021 01:18 GMT
#1528
Yeah I don't think we will see much more tightening of restrictions anymore. The vaccinated people are only going to be willing to sacrifice so much to protect anti-vaxxers from themselves.
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 12 2021 16:43 GMT
#1529
Think this might affect stocks in some way. Seeing how it is the highest increase on record.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
August 12 2021 16:54 GMT
#1530
Funny, I read an article just this morning that "transitory inflation is finally slowing down." Maybe this is the non-transitory inflation that continues to rage?
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44205 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-12 17:01:49
August 12 2021 17:00 GMT
#1531
The record inflation is 12 month change and July 2020 was a weird time. It is, in part, rebound.

That said, price increases are real. In my view they’re being driven by a combination of supply shortages due to Coronavirus (impacting automobile chips for example) and by cheap credit. The US economy is driven by credit and nominal price isn’t always the best way to measure price.

The most clear example is probably house prices. Let’s say you’re paying $1000/month over 30 years at 4%. The nominal price of the house is $209k. If interest rates drop to 2% the same $1000/month payment would make the house $271k. The functional price of the house, $1000/month for 30 years, is unchanged but the nominal price has gone up 29%.

But this applies to everything when credit is as pervasive as it is in the US. Low interest rates and high availability of credit push up nominal prices, even if supply and demand are unchanged. The $271k house is the same price as the $209k house.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
August 13 2021 18:48 GMT
#1532
If SPCE goes sub 20 I’ll average down. I’ll be glad to get out of this stock when I can. I’ve been treating it as a long but people just love to meme and pump and dump this one. Market opens 3:30am my time, no fucking thanks.
Skol
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 19 2021 23:11 GMT
#1533
So on top of selling nearly 100 million shares after its' IPO debut, Robinhood is now warning of trade slowdowns. That is on top of the FBI investigating one of the CEO's and having access to his phone records.



Still hasn't topped its' IPO expected price of, what, 50 bucks?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-08-23 21:40:38
August 23 2021 21:39 GMT
#1534
On August 12 2021 05:13 ShoCkeyy wrote:
I hold SPCE, but honestly, I think we're about to enter another bear market due to delta variations. What we're seeing here I think is starting to price in the possible shutdown looming. Gotta cash out to get good stuffs later when it dips right? But then you also have inflation, so I feel like cashing out right now isn't even worth it since your dollars are going to be worth less in the long run... Kinda weird spot once again.

I just prefer to buy and hold at this point. Gotta get those avg's better right?


Bumping this. Why? Virgin Orbit is planning to go public. Virgin Orbit has already had two successful satellite launches.







"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-02 19:35:32
September 02 2021 19:33 GMT
#1535
And bump. I really need somewhere to explain Options to me.

Edit: Also SPCE is tanking on the FAA announcement.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Emnjay808
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
United States10665 Posts
September 02 2021 22:02 GMT
#1536
SPCE climbed a healthy 10%+ the last few days and it all dropped in the matter of 30 minutes.
Skol
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22407 Posts
September 02 2021 22:33 GMT
#1537
On September 03 2021 04:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
And bump. I really need somewhere to explain Options to me.

Edit: Also SPCE is tanking on the FAA announcement.


I like to think of it as a string or fuse tied to something (the price) that gets shorter until it hits expiry. The force required to move it into either direction towards another price is your loss/gain.

Leverage used is the elasticity of the string?

I'm not sure how to find an analogy for the price decay, but it's probably something like a half circle area around the end point.

Lotto-y stuff.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18399 Posts
September 02 2021 23:26 GMT
#1538
On September 03 2021 07:33 Vivax wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2021 04:33 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
And bump. I really need somewhere to explain Options to me.

Edit: Also SPCE is tanking on the FAA announcement.


I like to think of it as a string or fuse tied to something (the price) that gets shorter until it hits expiry. The force required to move it into either direction towards another price is your loss/gain.

Leverage used is the elasticity of the string?

I'm not sure how to find an analogy for the price decay, but it's probably something like a half circle area around the end point.

Lotto-y stuff.

I don't know a lot about how options work, but having read this I now somehow know less than I did before.
Blitzkrieg0
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States13132 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-09-03 00:29:28
September 03 2021 00:03 GMT
#1539
The Khan Academy videos on options are pretty good.

https://www.khanacademy.org/economics-finance-domain/core-finance/derivative-securities
I'll always be your shadow and veil your eyes from states of ain soph aur.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 03 2021 00:04 GMT
#1540
On September 03 2021 07:02 Emnjay808 wrote:
SPCE climbed a healthy 10%+ the last few days and it all dropped in the matter of 30 minutes.


That New Yorker article yesterday was damning. But RKLB is showing promise.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
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