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Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
June 01 2020 18:15 GMT
#721
I'm reading the FX as if USD and JPY devalue together while the CHF used as safe haven currency counters the movement buying equities.

Nikkei might actually be headed for a crack-up-boom, they're in late stage QE. If that happens for US markets depends on whether the Fed is willing to go in tandem still. They have to raise interest rates or let the market drop to keep the dollar stable.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 01 2020 21:37 GMT
#722
On June 02 2020 02:37 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
50 cities are on fire but green line go up

States are opening back up, the protests are a distraction (in the grand scheme of "the economy") that will go away soon, and no one has really went bankrupt yet. A post-lockdown boom will surely bring things back to normal!

Once people slowly realize that things aren't actually going to get better, i.e. when people realize this bad economy thing isn't just a brief hiccup, the real downside will manifest itself. Or the Fed will announce that it's buying all bad debt everywhere in the world, idk.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 04 2020 04:04 GMT
#723
Keep in mind the Fed cut rates from 1.75% to 0.25%. That’s going to raise the price of equities, all else being equal. So even your favorite stock market index gets back to where it was in February, it still hasn’t recovered.

I think once we see payment deferrals come up we’re going to see another movement down. Basically a lot of corporations are going to see a haircut on their accounts receivable, a portion of consumers are going to be insolvent (eg renters who had rent deferred and can’t meet their deferred rent because their job doesn’t come back fast enough). There’s also the risk of a second wave or it taking a long time for consumer activity to resume to normal.

I was really surprised when I saw a few of my OTM calls (Sunrun, Lyft) getting close to assignment this week. I’m going to let them assign me and hold cash. This is a good time to sell off if you missed the boat in February IMO
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-04 18:38:42
June 04 2020 18:37 GMT
#724
10 yr is going up after the period of yield curve control. Broke out of the supposed cap range.
Massive gold futures physical covering.
Dollar dropping against the Franc yet again.

Whatever happens, the moves are significant. Weeks of surprises ahead imo.
Oh and dark pool buying also dropped yesterday, but dunno how it's going to look today.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43529 Posts
June 04 2020 19:14 GMT
#725
I put $40k in Boeing 3 weeks ago. That's gone pretty well. Up like $15k.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 04 2020 19:20 GMT
#726
On June 05 2020 04:14 KwarK wrote:
I put $40k in Boeing 3 weeks ago. That's gone pretty well. Up like $15k.


Nice nice :D I'm in the same boat but with AAL, CCL, DAL, NCLH since the bottom. Currently AAL and NCLH are both my highest returns.
Life?
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14098 Posts
June 05 2020 01:37 GMT
#727
NCLH I felt crashed the furthest without having any reason to out of the cruise ship stocks. They have the youngest fleet and the last time they were in the news I remembered was when they had a storm and someone videotaped the deck heaving one way and the next.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-05 05:06:19
June 05 2020 04:49 GMT
#728
Man, not gonna lie, that FOMO is real.

When I wasn't investing large amounts I was fine putting it in and not paying attention to it, but sitting on my pile of cash and watching the market go up is shitty, much easier for me to hold a losing position than a winning one. Though I have to stick to my guns and not deviate from my planned strategy.

Atleast strong Canadian dollar has been keeping up with SP500 gains, so I didn't lose anything by selling versus just keeping my position, just haven't taken advantage of the market rally these last 10 days. Good job on the profits though guys, don't get too greedy
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 05 2020 06:24 GMT
#729
The stocks I do have did show some nice gains lately. Not in a "I bought the dip with a five-figure investment and the dice roll came out favorably" fashion, but nevertheless the numbers look nice. My large stack of cash obviously didn't offer the same growth over the past month.

I'm still sticking to the play I made in early March: reduce (but not eliminate by a long stretch) stock exposure once the volatility started to look really scary, and hold a large cash position with a smaller but still substantial stock portfolio. Cash is good for handling the risk job instability, if it comes to that, plus for taking advantage of any lower-priced assets if the timing is right.

Maybe I missed that timing. The economy could just tide this whole thing over as just a bump in the road, or it won't but the Fed will cause such glorious inflation that asset prices will rise and cash-holders will lose. Or maybe it's a bear rally and all these current gains will reverse course leading back to a deeper crash, so all the folks taking about big gains in their investment will be able to boast about five-figure losses.

But the way I see it, I made my play and I've seen nothing to indicate that it's time to change course. I didn't sell off more stocks either, despite the fact that that was tempting on the downturn. The best way to be a bagholder is to get caught up in the FOMO and make decisions that end up being really stupid in hindsight.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 05 2020 17:39 GMT
#730
So I woke up this morning to see another 10% increase on my portfolio... I should of played options today.
Life?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43529 Posts
June 05 2020 17:47 GMT
#731
I got out of Boeing today. It's okay to take some profits. $136 to $210.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
June 05 2020 17:54 GMT
#732
Glad I never sold those F shares, held them all the way through the dip

The biggest loss for me was not holding those SPY $330 calls all the way through the week, I honestly thought the riots would eventually cause some sort of drop. Also didn't expect the low unemployment figures ofc

Tweet markets have been closed so I'll probably start moving money from my political gambling account to my option gambling account
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
June 05 2020 20:49 GMT
#733
On June 06 2020 02:47 KwarK wrote:
I got out of Boeing today. It's okay to take some profits. $136 to $210.

Grats! That’s awesome. Had some similar gains on Uber and Lyft but I had bought them during dips before Rona.

I’m going to end up getting assigned on almost everything except some solar stocks I thought had their options underpriced. Still locking in some decent profits as I usually sell like 10-15% OTM. Also selling my vested RSUs. Going more heavily Cash gang because I still expect another dip as the exuberance wears off.

At this point I’m convinced we’re going to see a second wave. Cases have stayed linear and we haven’t built up sufficient population resistance (like 1%?) to slow the spread. Even though it doesn’t kill people who aren’t elderly most of the time, it can still require hospitalization. I think the stocks that are heavily exposed to quarantining/SIP are now priced too high considering the risk
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 05 2020 21:21 GMT
#734
On June 06 2020 05:49 Chocolate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 02:47 KwarK wrote:
I got out of Boeing today. It's okay to take some profits. $136 to $210.

Grats! That’s awesome. Had some similar gains on Uber and Lyft but I had bought them during dips before Rona.

I’m going to end up getting assigned on almost everything except some solar stocks I thought had their options underpriced. Still locking in some decent profits as I usually sell like 10-15% OTM. Also selling my vested RSUs. Going more heavily Cash gang because I still expect another dip as the exuberance wears off.

At this point I’m convinced we’re going to see a second wave. Cases have stayed linear and we haven’t built up sufficient population resistance (like 1%?) to slow the spread. Even though it doesn’t kill people who aren’t elderly most of the time, it can still require hospitalization. I think the stocks that are heavily exposed to quarantining/SIP are now priced too high considering the risk


The fed goes brrrrrrrrrr.... No but seriously, they're buying up everything they can it looks like. At some point they're going to sell too and that's when I see shit will dip a lot again. A lot of people are thinking in 2021.
Life?
Chocolate
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2350 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-05 21:36:43
June 05 2020 21:35 GMT
#735
On June 06 2020 06:21 ShoCkeyy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2020 05:49 Chocolate wrote:
On June 06 2020 02:47 KwarK wrote:
I got out of Boeing today. It's okay to take some profits. $136 to $210.

Grats! That’s awesome. Had some similar gains on Uber and Lyft but I had bought them during dips before Rona.

I’m going to end up getting assigned on almost everything except some solar stocks I thought had their options underpriced. Still locking in some decent profits as I usually sell like 10-15% OTM. Also selling my vested RSUs. Going more heavily Cash gang because I still expect another dip as the exuberance wears off.

At this point I’m convinced we’re going to see a second wave. Cases have stayed linear and we haven’t built up sufficient population resistance (like 1%?) to slow the spread. Even though it doesn’t kill people who aren’t elderly most of the time, it can still require hospitalization. I think the stocks that are heavily exposed to quarantining/SIP are now priced too high considering the risk


The fed goes brrrrrrrrrr.... No but seriously, they're buying up everything they can it looks like. At some point they're going to sell too and that's when I see shit will dip a lot again. A lot of people are thinking in 2021.

I think those are bonds rather than equities. Though the paycheck protection program is also BRRing money out of thin air, I think that will end quite soon
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-11 07:59:33
June 11 2020 07:51 GMT
#736
March 24: CME pushed to change gold delivery rules amid coronavirus lockdown
April 20: Former Singapore Billionaire Lim’s Oil Giant Files For Bankruptcy. Oil goes negative.
April 23: JPMorgan says oil price collapse not a systemic risk to markets.
May 21: Broker of USO blocks it from buying crude futures.

CME 'other assets' and 'other liabilities':
31/12: 37441.4 Millions
31/3: 100687.7 Millions

Methinks not just oil was about to go negative.

Also big hedging spike in progress for S&P 500. Tends to precede drops by about 2 weeks, but can also repeatedly spike and precede a drop by roughly 2 months. Targeting August-October expiries for shorting. Or maybe Fed prints the dollar dead, who knows.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18203 Posts
June 11 2020 13:15 GMT
#737
Yup. Way too much risk for me. I got out of everything and put a downpayment on a house. Even if everything goes to shit, at least I'll own my house (eventually, and the interest rate on mortgages is pretty damn low right now).
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
June 11 2020 14:20 GMT
#738
I’m still up, a lot of people still seem bullish. Tomorrow a lot of people are thinking it’ll be all green. We’ll see. I’m willing to risk it.
Life?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
June 11 2020 14:29 GMT
#739
It looks like prices are starting to go the opposite direction. It's of course still well above where it was before the 50-200% jump in the "Fed welfare" sector, but today's the first day of real decline in a long time.

Admittedly I missed the legendary airline stock flip of last week, so I don't have much to show for it. Hope y'all did well though.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22158 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-06-11 16:47:07
June 11 2020 16:21 GMT
#740
Result of Trump playing with the dollar in his easy to win trade war imho. Physical deliveries of gold at the comex coupled with dumping of other commodities blew it up. When you manage 3.5 trillions in derivatives while holding around a billion in cash that can become a systemic problem.

At some point if he keeps printing they can't stop the lid from flying off gold.

Movement of 3% in some forex currencies also suggest real distress.
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