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Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-28 17:37:03
January 28 2021 17:04 GMT
#621
Blizz was in part selling because of their renown, I really don't want to know how games like HotS or Overwatch would have sold if they weren't produced by Blizz. With game quality being on a steady decline since Sc2 and perhaps since WoW, a lot of the top staff leaving and the WC3R debacle that renown isn't really there anymore. So it's quite natural that Atvi tries to save what's left to save.
low gravity, yes-yes!
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7167 Posts
February 02 2021 10:53 GMT
#622
No idea where to put this. Doesn't really need a thread of its own:

New RTS (Singeplayer)

Drumroll.....

Starship Troopers!
Hopefully they'll release this with loads of bugs (muhahaha)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1202130/Starship_Troopers__Terran_Command/

Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11817 Posts
February 02 2021 12:38 GMT
#623
Looks very Dawn of War.
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
February 02 2021 13:46 GMT
#624
I think usually these get a new thread, since that is also the place for possible discussion.
And yeah CoH/DoW are what it looks like. The description sounds like a pure PvE game, which imo isn't a bad thing.
low gravity, yes-yes!
elabhouse
Profile Joined February 2021
1 Post
Last Edited: 2021-02-04 10:36:36
February 04 2021 10:36 GMT
#625
Bot edit.

User was banned for this post.
[X]Ken_D
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States4650 Posts
February 05 2021 07:31 GMT
#626
Blizzard is a shell of their former selves. While I enjoyed the single campaign of SC2, I don't quite enjoy the multiplayer nor observing games as much as BW. SC2 had a same-ish "let's fix this making it same" feel in regards to balance like WC3. For me the decline of Blizzard began with Starcraft 2.

After the international incident with their Heart Stone players, I don't care what happens to Blizzard anymore.
[X]Domain - I just do the website. Nothing more.
goiflin
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Canada1218 Posts
February 05 2021 15:20 GMT
#627
On February 02 2021 19:53 Harris1st wrote:
No idea where to put this. Doesn't really need a thread of its own:

New RTS (Singeplayer)

Drumroll.....

Starship Troopers!
+ Show Spoiler +
Hopefully they'll release this with loads of bugs (muhahaha)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1202130/Starship_Troopers__Terran_Command/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLMLusw4efU&ab_channel=SlitherineGames


Unfortunately the developer is pretty unknown. They seem to have developed a lot of different strategy/tactics titles but really, not a single title of note.
At least this game might actually come out, unlike most ST games ever conceived.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17735 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-05 22:15:44
February 05 2021 22:14 GMT
#628
With Starship Troopers I wish they actually made them more like in the book rather than the movies. Even 1988 anime was closer to the correct look for infantry (I mean, they've even been armed with small tactical nukes). Something more like that:

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Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11817 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-05 22:21:45
February 05 2021 22:21 GMT
#629
The problem with mobile infantry in the book is that (iirc) they engaged at high-tech ranges. Meaning boring.I remember that there was a section where they basically flew about in a grid with miles between each other and blew up stuff behind the horizon.
deacon.frost
Profile Joined February 2013
Czech Republic12129 Posts
February 05 2021 23:22 GMT
#630
It makes sense, the mobile infantry in the book is more or less mech warrior, but more mobile and many more of them. WHich is hard to capture in the game. There's a reason why you have just some mechs in the mech warrior and not hundreds of them. FFS they were covering miles while searching for them brainz bug(in the book).

ALthough FPS based on the book could be fun
I imagine France should be able to take this unless Lilbow is busy practicing for Starcraft III. | KadaverBB is my fairy ban mother.
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12084 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-06 07:25:38
February 06 2021 06:41 GMT
#631
On February 06 2021 08:22 deacon.frost wrote:
It makes sense, the mobile infantry in the book is more or less mech warrior, but more mobile and many more of them. WHich is hard to capture in the game. There's a reason why you have just some mechs in the mech warrior and not hundreds of them. FFS they were covering miles while searching for them brainz bug(in the book).

ALthough FPS based on the book could be fun


A mech style game could make sense. You fighting your way through hordes of enemies, conserving ammunition and energy to get to the objective and out again. Not so much a continuous fight, since then it would be strange that humans aren't winning. You being just another, if above average, mechanised soldier.

Could have squad maps. Then a few solo maps etc. Could see a lot of variation in it with decent mobility instead of cover based mechanics as in GoW. Something more similar to Doom I guess.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 18 2021 20:17 GMT
#632
Saudi Arabia has utilized its Public Investment Fund to invest over $3.3 billion (that’s $3,300,000,000 for the more visual learners out there) in Electronic Arts, Take-Two Interactive, and Activision Blizzard, Al Jazeera reported (h/t Eurogamer).

This move, undertaken by Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (known colloquially as MBS), equates to millions of shares in each company, a decent foothold in the video game but relatively small fractions of ownership.

The crown prince’s MiSK Foundation, a non-profit foundation meant to “foster, empower, and create a healthy environment for young creative talents” in Saudi Arabia, also obtained a one-third stake in Japanese gaming company SNK late last year, with the end goal of eventually taking majority control of the iconic studio.

While not explicitly part of MBS’s overall Saudi Vision 2030 plan—which, on paper, is about attracting investors and tourism but essentially boils down to a propaganda campaign hoping to portray Saudi Arabia as a progressive nation rather than the oppressive, medieval monarchy it truly is—his recent overtures to the video game industry follow the same pattern as investments his regime has made in sports, esports, and professional wrestling.

MBS was hailed as a reformer early into his tenure as crown prince for, among other things, giving women the right to drive. But his alleged roles in ordering the 2018 assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and Saudi Arabi’s continued genocide of the Yemeni people (with assistance from the United States and the United Arab Emirates) have made him controversial on the global stage.

Last summer, Riot was forced to pull out of a partnership with Saudi Arabia, which would have seen a League of Legends event promote the kingdom’s incredibly dumb NEOM project, after backlash from the esports community.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17735 Posts
February 18 2021 23:03 GMT
#633
On February 06 2021 15:41 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 06 2021 08:22 deacon.frost wrote:
It makes sense, the mobile infantry in the book is more or less mech warrior, but more mobile and many more of them. WHich is hard to capture in the game. There's a reason why you have just some mechs in the mech warrior and not hundreds of them. FFS they were covering miles while searching for them brainz bug(in the book).

ALthough FPS based on the book could be fun


A mech style game could make sense. You fighting your way through hordes of enemies, conserving ammunition and energy to get to the objective and out again. Not so much a continuous fight, since then it would be strange that humans aren't winning. You being just another, if above average, mechanised soldier.

Could have squad maps. Then a few solo maps etc. Could see a lot of variation in it with decent mobility instead of cover based mechanics as in GoW. Something more similar to Doom I guess.


You mean something like M.A.S.S Builder?

Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7167 Posts
February 19 2021 11:04 GMT
#634
On February 06 2021 07:21 Simberto wrote:
The problem with mobile infantry in the book is that (iirc) they engaged at high-tech ranges. Meaning boring.I remember that there was a section where they basically flew about in a grid with miles between each other and blew up stuff behind the horizon.


Anthem? xD
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
Archeon
Profile Joined May 2011
3265 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-21 23:38:44
February 19 2021 20:21 GMT
#635
On February 19 2021 05:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
Saudi Arabia has utilized its Public Investment Fund to invest over $3.3 billion (that’s $3,300,000,000 for the more visual learners out there) in Electronic Arts, Take-Two Interactive, and Activision Blizzard, Al Jazeera reported (h/t Eurogamer).

This move, undertaken by Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (known colloquially as MBS), equates to millions of shares in each company, a decent foothold in the video game but relatively small fractions of ownership.

The crown prince’s MiSK Foundation, a non-profit foundation meant to “foster, empower, and create a healthy environment for young creative talents” in Saudi Arabia, also obtained a one-third stake in Japanese gaming company SNK late last year, with the end goal of eventually taking majority control of the iconic studio.

While not explicitly part of MBS’s overall Saudi Vision 2030 plan—which, on paper, is about attracting investors and tourism but essentially boils down to a propaganda campaign hoping to portray Saudi Arabia as a progressive nation rather than the oppressive, medieval monarchy it truly is—his recent overtures to the video game industry follow the same pattern as investments his regime has made in sports, esports, and professional wrestling.

MBS was hailed as a reformer early into his tenure as crown prince for, among other things, giving women the right to drive. But his alleged roles in ordering the 2018 assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and Saudi Arabi’s continued genocide of the Yemeni people (with assistance from the United States and the United Arab Emirates) have made him controversial on the global stage.

Last summer, Riot was forced to pull out of a partnership with Saudi Arabia, which would have seen a League of Legends event promote the kingdom’s incredibly dumb NEOM project, after backlash from the esports community.


Source

I don't think that AtviBlizz could legally stop someone from being a shareholder even if they hadn't proven during the free HongKong affair already that they are more than willing to bow to evil dictatorships for money.

But Blizz is also a slowly sinking ship that lost most of it's valuable human resources, so I really don't mind if the Saudi crown throws their money away.

It's also been ages since I played a title of any of these.
low gravity, yes-yes!
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 28 2021 17:50 GMT
#636
What are the chances that E3 will be around next year.

In a new report published by the Board of Los Angeles Convention and Tourism Development Commission, a sales update lists E3 2021 as a “cancelled live event”.

The document states that the Convention board is working with E3 organiser The Entertainment Software Association (ESA) on broadcast options at the Los Angeles Convention Center and the nearby LA Live complex. The City board also claims it’s “working” on a 2022 and 2023 license for E3.

The cancellation would mark the second year in a row the E3 event has been called off due to the coronavirus pandemic.

As exclusively revealed by VGC this month, The ESA has been pushing forward with plans for a digital E3 event this summer, but it still requires the backing of major games companies.

According to E3 2021 pitch documents sent to games publishers and seen by VGC, the ESA has outlined its proposals for this year’s event, which would see three days of live-streamed coverage held during the previously announced dates of June 15-17.

The broadcast event would be supplemented by media previews the week before, as well as demos released on consumer platforms, according to the ESA’s proposal.

However, the E3 2021 plans still require the approval of ESA’s membership, which is made up of the industry’s biggest games companies and who have significant influence over the direction of the show.

The ESA was already facing significant pressure to reinvent E3, with several major publishers including EA, Sony and Activision having abandoned the event in recent years – and that was before 2020’s cancellation, after which many companies such as EA and Ubisoft enjoyed success running their own digital events.

Multiple games publishing sources had told VGC they were working under the assumption that the physical event would not take place this year.

In a statement issued to VGC, the ESA said it would soon share exact details on this year’s E3 show and claimed it was having “great conversations” with developers and publishers, but would not confirm who had signed up for the event.

“We can confirm that we are transforming the E3 experience for 2021 and will soon share exact details on how we’re bringing the global video game community together,” an ESA spokesperson said. “We are having great conversations with publishers, developers and companies across the board, and we look forward to sharing details about their involvement soon.”

Commenting on VGC’s report, former Nintendo of America boss Reggie Fils-Aimé said this month that he believed The ESA needs to act fast if it is to save the historical games event.

Speaking to Gamertag Radio, Fils-Aimé said he saw reports about E3 returning digitally in 2021 and wasn’t enthused. “I have to say that what I read doesn’t sound all that compelling.”

“If I were king for a day, I’ll tell you how I would do it,” he said. “I do think doing this digitally is absolutely right and the reason for that is, there are more than the 60,000 people who would typically attend an E3. There are millions more interested in finding out what’s going on and executing an event digitally is the way to bring that to life, so that’s the right track.

“Having said that, I think that the platform holders need to find a way digitally to enable their fans, their players, to experience the content because that’s the key for E3 right – the ability to be playing The Last of Us Part 3 for the first time, or to play that next Breath of the Wild game for the first time, or to play the next great game coming from the new amalgamation of all the Xbox studios.

“To play for the first time is what’s magical and the platform holders need to figure out how to deliver that experience to their fans during an E3-like digital experience. I think that would be huge.”


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Ben...
Profile Joined January 2011
Canada3485 Posts
February 28 2021 18:08 GMT
#637
I think there's only a slim chance E3 survives at this point. Even before 2020, E3 was hemorrhaging bigger studios and the major platforms, who were instead opting to do their own announcement events instead independently of E3. Last year showed that these companies didn't need a big overall convention to successfully market all their new stuff, and I'm not sure the in-person portion of E3 is that big of a selling point for companies participating anymore.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22298 Posts
February 28 2021 18:59 GMT
#638
The in-person benefit is getting people to play on demo stations and spread hype that way, you can't do that with an online presentation. Outside of that, no I don't think there is much selling point anymore.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Crateros
Profile Joined February 2021
19 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-02-28 20:43:49
February 28 2021 20:43 GMT
#639
--- Nuked ---
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22298 Posts
February 28 2021 21:03 GMT
#640
On March 01 2021 05:43 Crateros wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 20 2021 05:21 Archeon wrote:
On February 19 2021 05:17 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Saudi Arabia has utilized its Public Investment Fund to invest over $3.3 billion (that’s $3,300,000,000 for the more visual learners out there) in Electronic Arts, Take-Two Interactive, and Activision Blizzard, Al Jazeera reported (h/t Eurogamer).

This move, undertaken by Saudi crown prince Mohammed bin Salman (known colloquially as MBS), equates to millions of shares in each company, a decent foothold in the video game but relatively small fractions of ownership.

The crown prince’s MiSK Foundation, a non-profit foundation meant to “foster, empower, and create a healthy environment for young creative talents” in Saudi Arabia, also obtained a one-third stake in Japanese gaming company SNK late last year, with the end goal of eventually taking majority control of the iconic studio.

While not explicitly part of MBS’s overall Saudi Vision 2030 plan—which, on paper, is about attracting investors and tourism but essentially boils down to a propaganda campaign hoping to portray Saudi Arabia as a progressive nation rather than the oppressive, medieval monarchy it truly is—his recent overtures to the video game industry follow the same pattern as investments his regime has made in sports, esports, and professional wrestling.

MBS was hailed as a reformer early into his tenure as crown prince for, among other things, giving women the right to drive. But his alleged roles in ordering the 2018 assassination of journalist Jamal Khashoggi and Saudi Arabi’s continued genocide of the Yemeni people (with assistance from the United States and the United Arab Emirates) have made him controversial on the global stage.

Last summer, Riot was forced to pull out of a partnership with Saudi Arabia, which would have seen a League of Legends event promote the kingdom’s incredibly dumb NEOM project, after backlash from the esports community.


Source

I don't think that AtviBlizz could legally stop someone from being a shareholder even if they hadn't proven during the free HongKong affair already that they are more than willing to bow to evil dictatorships for money.

But Blizz is also a slowly sinking ship that lost most of it's valuable human resources, so I really don't mind if the Saudi crown throws their money away.

It's also been ages since I played a title of any of these.

Free Hong Kong Affair? What did they do?
A Hearthstone player from Hong Kong used a post match interview to make a political statement when the situation there was in the news and he got fined for it (because online tournaments are not the place for such things) and the internet threw a fit.
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