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On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:On August 04 2018 13:31 Leporello wrote:
Seriously, though, who the fuck is Mike. Michael Jordan? Because...? Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield. It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI.
He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism.
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On August 05 2018 01:15 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:On August 04 2018 13:31 Leporello wrote:
Seriously, though, who the fuck is Mike. Michael Jordan? Because...? Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield. It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. Most does, but insulting the FBI, CIA, NSA does not.
Sure it does, if you are of the belief that those institutions are stacked with people who have globalist interests in mind.
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On August 05 2018 01:21 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 01:15 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:
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Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield.
It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. Most does, but insulting the FBI, CIA, NSA does not. Sure it does, if you are of the belief that those institutions are stacked with people who have globalist interests in mind.
And I could be of the belief that flying monkeys deliver pizza as a way of furthering the Neo Nazi agenda.
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On August 05 2018 01:36 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 01:21 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 01:15 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:
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It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. Most does, but insulting the FBI, CIA, NSA does not. Sure it does, if you are of the belief that those institutions are stacked with people who have globalist interests in mind. That is what I mean, he can attack anyone and make anyone an enemy, he just accuses them of being against him/american interests.
Again, are you going to disagree with the proposition that those state agencies have been arrayed against him from day 1? The only real question is how justified their opposition is, but that's besides the point for our immediate purposes. If Trump is going to pursue a nationalist agenda, and if those agencies are going to oppose that agenda, then it isn't out of bounds for Trump to attack them, though his language may be hyperbolic.
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On August 04 2018 19:42 Nebuchad wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 19:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:On August 04 2018 18:12 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 17:08 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 07:53 Plansix wrote:On August 04 2018 07:31 JimmiC wrote:
Movies and art in general are able to mean different things to different people. You don’t understand, TLJ is objectively bad. Please way my 7 part series on YouTube explaining why and click on my patreon page. On August 04 2018 07:30 Nebuchad wrote:
For the record, I'd still rather we discuss the whole "now it's not about good vs evil", but please don't fuall for the trap of accepting that a female character being right while a male character is wrong is an emasculating thing? It takes a special type of person to watch those scenes and feel emasculated. Yes, people have definitely made some bank on tearing TLJ apart. There's a lot wrong with it, though. Out of curiousity, have you looked into how it's been received in non-Western markets? The Chinese critics' response to the movie is... illuminating. Star Wars is the closest thing to a protected class in the western film-making industry; critics really do give it free passes on stuff they'd tear 'lesser' movies apart for. On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:On August 04 2018 13:31 Leporello wrote:
Seriously, though, who the fuck is Mike. Michael Jordan? Because...? Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield. It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there isWhat ever could go wrong with a bunch of white nationalist snowflakes with makeshift weapons on a metro train in a predominately Black (49%) area? I mean DC is segregated for a reason right? I guess it's harder without the "Whites Only" signs up anymore though. If it was up to me I'd shut down the stops and make them walk through Brentwood with their gear oh and no cops for 20 miles. WASHINGTON - Metro officials are considering offering a private train for white nationalists participating in the Unite the Right rally in the District, according to Metro union workers.
ATU Local 689 said sources have told them that Metro officials are considering to provide members of the Unite the Right rally with three private rail cars on one Metro train to participate in their event scheduled for Aug. 12.
The union said the plan being considered would provide the train and police escort from Virginia to the Foggy Bottom-GWU Metro station. The crowd would then march through the District to Lafayette Park near the White House. www.fox5dc.com God bless you, internet. Sometimes. Curse you, other times. I really shouldn't have put a question mark there. Of course there was going to be a list. Still, I didn't realise it had gotten quite that big. I figured it was in the lower triple digits, not pushing towards halfway to four. Wonder how big it'll be by the end of his Presidency? Just reading part of that list (I can't handle that much toxicity on a Saturday morning), drives home to me again that a lot of people in America think this is a good way for a President to behave. Whoever comes next is going to have a LOT of work to do in terms of rebuilding the idea of a President. If we're speaking superficially, I prefer Trump. He may be a compulsive liar, but he's the most honest face the US has had in a while. For someone who boasts intellectual superiority over liberals, you say surptisingly stupid s... sometimes. How is someone who lies every time that he opens his mouth more honest than someone who doesn’t? And seriously. You think Trump is more honest than Obama. Like, really? He's not saying that Trump is honest, he's saying that Trump represents what America really was all this time even though it was trying to hide it. Notice in the sentence it's not Trump that's honest (he is a 'compulsive liar') it's "the face of America". Edit: this must be what IgnE pretends he feels like =)
I'm really glad I didn't have to sort this one out. I was not looking forward to that. Thanks to you and dave.
Trump put a mirror up to US and a lot of people don't like the reflection. It's the person in the mirror who is the ugly one, not the US which is looking at the mirror.
Trump couldn't get elected in any other modern country, of course he's representative of the US that people have been lying to themselves about being way better than it is.
Obama was the perfect lie to tell ourselves, only to prove it's untruth by electing Trump.
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On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:On August 04 2018 13:31 Leporello wrote:
Seriously, though, who the fuck is Mike. Michael Jordan? Because...? Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield. It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. What doesthis even mean? Nationalsim and globalists aren't opposites, unless you have magically redefined the word. You are clearly using it as a pejorative so I googled this and got some Jews are conspiring to take over the world conspiracy bullshit.
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Although xdaunt does not use it as a pejorative for “the Jews”, that is what globalist means for a more than troubling section of Trumps base.
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Fair enough. In any case nationalism and globalism aren't two opposite sides of a political spectrum. It can only be so by the redefinition of these words to claim as such.
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On August 05 2018 05:54 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Fair enough. In any case nationalism and globalism aren't two opposite sides of a political spectrum. It can only be so by the redefinition of these words to claim as such.
I think it's more literal in that one puts forth a concept of individual nations without an "overbearing" federation government while "globalist" denotes a global community where individual nations fall to a global authority (really this means transnational corporations as corporate states).
Ironically they both end up with the whole transnational corporate thiefdoms.
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It's more cynical, it's a wish to stop cooperating as a global community and return to a 'might makes right' way of dealing with situations. With the US having the biggest 'might' part in the world of course.
Senior officials were quoted saying the Trumpist doctrine is 'no friends no enemies' and 'we're America, bitch'.
Trump is hardly an actual nationalist. His hats wouldn't be made in China or he wouldn't flame Harley Davidson then. He just wants the biggest stick and the freedom to swing it until he gets his way. And cambridge analytica data-mined that 'America first' would give him the best road to the power of the stick. He doesn't believe any of it but he'll be sure to capitalize on the people that do.
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Globalists to the right is basicly what nazis is to the left.
You call people who disagree with you globalists wether they are or not the same way people on the left call people they disagree with nazis.
Obviously it's not everyone out there doing it but I don't want to use the term extreme-right or extreme-left here since that always ends up badly.
I don't know if xDaunt intended for it but he basicly said the same as well
On August 05 2018 01:21 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 01:15 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 14:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 14:06 Dan HH wrote:
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Because saying he likes an unrelated black guy means the rest of his tweet has nothing to do with the race of his targets, it's a shield.
It's an impressive way to be even more racist while trying to present as not racist. I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!" All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. Most does, but insulting the FBI, CIA, NSA does not. Sure it does, if you are of the belief that those institutions are stacked with people who have globalist interests in mind. On August 05 2018 01:59 xDaunt wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 01:36 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 01:21 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 01:15 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 01:06 xDaunt wrote:On August 05 2018 00:53 JimmiC wrote:On August 05 2018 00:39 NewSunshine wrote:On August 04 2018 16:35 GreenHorizons wrote:On August 04 2018 16:28 iamthedave wrote:On August 04 2018 14:56 NewSunshine wrote:
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I already saw someone respond to the unthinkable notion that Trump is racist because "see? he said he likes Mike! That's a black person, therefore...!"
All I know is I'm looking at 2 grown men. One of them is an actual athlete, and opened an actual school to do something besides scam people. The other one is using his status as POTUS to have a pissing match over Twitter. I refuse to let this nonsense become the norm. I think at this point it must always be pissing matches. Is there a running total of the number of people he's gone after directly on twitter since becoming POTUS? As a matter of fact, there is This is delightfully illuminating. Of note are his insults against Fox News, which were obviously before he started campaigning and running as Republican, his almost total lack of insults against Robert Mueller himself, and the number of times he goes after Mueller's team instead, calling them "13 angry Democrats" almost exclusively. He is totally hollow as a leader, an empty husk that will say whatever it takes to get people to listen to him, and try to stir whatever outrage he thinks will be most effective for his run on power. It's all a game, until he tapped into the single greatest source of outrage in this country: that of perturbed white privilege. Once he found that, the rest was history. And here we are, with perhaps the most unfit man to fill the Office of the Presidency this country has ever seen. Fascinating. What I find most fascinating about him is unlike most populists who pick one scapegoat and blame them for everything (Jews, immigrants, the "elite", whoever). He moves through scapegoats and targets so quickly, some times pivoting in the same day. It is almost hard to keep up with who he is currently blaming and then impossible to predict who he will blame next. At least with Duerte, or Maduro, Hitler, Lennin you knew who the target was going to be. Trump is all over the map, immigration one minute trade with eu next, then might as well go after the media or the FBI. He only has one real scapegoat: globalists. Everything Trump does falls squarely on the side of nationalism. Most does, but insulting the FBI, CIA, NSA does not. Sure it does, if you are of the belief that those institutions are stacked with people who have globalist interests in mind. That is what I mean, he can attack anyone and make anyone an enemy, he just accuses them of being against him/american interests. Again, are you going to disagree with the proposition that those state agencies have been arrayed against him from day 1? The only real question is how justified their opposition is, but that's besides the point for our immediate purposes. If Trump is going to pursue a nationalist agenda, and if those agencies are going to oppose that agenda, then it isn't out of bounds for Trump to attack them, though his language may be hyperbolic.
anyone and everyone who disagrees with Trump is a globalist. Wether that's the reason they disagree with him or about something he proposes doesn't come into the consideration. The act of disagreeing is what makes people globalists.
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“He may be a globalist, but I still like him. He is seriously a globalist, there’s no question. But you know what, in his own way he’s a nationalist because he loves our country.” - Trump on Gary Cohn who quit in protest of the tariffs. Good luck trying to dissect that last sentence.
Toadesstern nailed it pretty well. Throw "Globalist" in with "Drain the swamp" and "Deep state" for adversaries that are wildly open to interpretation. It's just crap they use to fit whenever is convenient. Gotta have an "other" to blame and make your enemy.
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On August 05 2018 09:01 Tachion wrote:
“He may be a globalist, but I still like him. He is seriously a globalist, there’s no question. But you know what, in his own way he’s a nationalist because he loves our country.” - Trump on Gary Cohn who quit in protest of the tariffs. Good luck trying to dissect that last sentence.
Toadesstern nailed it pretty well. Throw "Globalist" in with "Drain the swamp" and "Deep state" for adversaries that are wildly open to interpretation. It's just crap they use to fit whenever is convenient. Gotta have an "other" to blame and make your enemy.
For all they like to claim that words like racist have lost their meaning, they are doing a fantastic job of robbing "globalist" or "deep state" of their meaning. I read transcripts of shit Trump says, or even his tweets, and I have no idea if he's even saying anything half the time. The trumpets have rallied behind a man who thinks school is for suckers.
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How old are the pics of Don Jr, with NRA Pete Brownell, and Maria Butina?
Like we’re the images released recently or a while ago?
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On August 05 2018 00:46 screamingpalm wrote:Show nested quote +On August 04 2018 21:02 Sermokala wrote:
A smart democratic successor would act as if trump never existed and operate as if they took over from obama. Trumps legitimacy and power has always come from people overreacting to him. See stealthblue calling America a failed state. Ignoring the causes and core issues has been a losing strategy for Democrats. Progressives with a populist economic message could help to change that. Sadly running on 'Bring coal back' and 'minimum wage jobs should feed a family of 6' might get you votes from idiots that believe you but it won't actually help the country.
Democrats have plenty of idea's for these people. But when they set up training programs to help out the sons of coal miners to find a new job they use it to learn to become a coal miner instead.
These people don't want a realistic solution, they want a time machine.
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On August 05 2018 09:52 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On August 05 2018 00:46 screamingpalm wrote:On August 04 2018 21:02 Sermokala wrote:
A smart democratic successor would act as if trump never existed and operate as if they took over from obama. Trumps legitimacy and power has always come from people overreacting to him. See stealthblue calling America a failed state. Ignoring the causes and core issues has been a losing strategy for Democrats. Progressives with a populist economic message could help to change that. Sadly running on 'Bring coal back' and 'minimum wage jobs should feed a family of 6' might get you votes from idiots that believe you but it won't actually help the country. Democrats have plenty of idea's for these people. But when they set up training programs to help out the sons of coal miners to find a new job they use it to learn to become a coal miner instead. These people don't want a realistic solution, they want a time machine.
It's not so much that they want the coal mining jobs back (some of them might) it's that they want the straightforward good paying work back. You're not wrong though that they'd be better off building a time machine than thinking they are going to vote their way out of it with our 2 parties.
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