EPTIn the video you can see reflective material, I don't think these are the same as the vests the National Guard are supposed to be wearing. Seems like it's just their uniform/night gear. But certainly reminiscent of what the NG were wearing after the governor sent NG at the request of mayor Frey.
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oBlade
United States5853 Posts
In the video you can see reflective material, I don't think these are the same as the vests the National Guard are supposed to be wearing. Seems like it's just their uniform/night gear. But certainly reminiscent of what the NG were wearing after the governor sent NG at the request of mayor Frey. | ||
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Geiko
France1940 Posts
On January 27 2026 13:17 oBlade wrote: I mean yes if they want they can choose not to use any force and give a nice civics lesson. People can also choose not to block them in with cars and stuff. Choices do lead to consequences. Choices do lead to consequences. ICE goons choose to shove, mace and shoot at US citizens slightly inconveniencing them. The consequence is that people hate them and they now have to deal with even more protesters and people making their actual job harder. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7958 Posts
I mean fafo, right? Or it’s just when you hunt brown people to send them to concentration camps that you can pull a gun and shoot a poet or an nurse in the head. That’s probably the difference between us and you, oblade. If all those twats had been fired upon, we would have been horrified. Despite their crime being of a magnitude a thousand times larger than helping a woman shoved to the ground by Trump’s little parody of the SA militias. You come out as a compete ghoul in those exchanges. And every text wall you make makes you look a little more like an insensitive monster. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
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Sadist
United States7322 Posts
On January 27 2026 19:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It speaks volumes when conservatives and their leaders go out of their way to lie/mislead/fabricate to justify the murders, like pretending that a murder victim first ran over an ICE agent with her car, or pretending that a murder victim first pulled a gun on an ICE agent. It just goes to show how bad-faith these conservatives are, and how little defense the ICE agents have when the actual facts and video evidence are examined. Yes. It feels like they always just throw mounds if shit at the wall hoping something sticks. It happens all the time. Argument made - falls through, move onto next argument with no self reflection or acknowledgement that they made the previous argument at all or that they were wrong. Its a time honored playbook. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8703 Posts
olympic levels of BS, lying and propaganda is pretty effective. but trying to piss against the wind will not work. luckily the wind will come for them little wannabe fascists/dictator/power tripping grifting losers now. I am actually hopeful they alienated too many people at this point. now who will invite/catch those people is the question from today until November? and the elephant in the room... will major escalation be averted? Trump and his Psycho Posse are capable of just about anything. Greg Bovino Loses His Job The Border Patrol chief has been ousted from his role as “commander at large,” and will return to El Centro.@TheAtlantic them getting rid of cosplaying Bovino Bambino is encouraging, major things are no doubt happening behind the scenes among Republicans. also better late than never... but better yet before things are actually spiraling. | ||
hexhaven
Finland959 Posts
ICE agents will have a security role at Milan Cortina Olympics The sources who confirmed ICE participation on Tuesday said that federal ICE agents would support diplomatic security details and would not run any immigration enforcement operations. The article does mention that several agencies, including departments of ICE, have supported diplomatic security details in the past, so this is not unprecedented. Just the timing is such that I'd probably adjust things around. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
On January 27 2026 21:28 hexhaven wrote: Speaking of Olympic levels! The article does mention that several agencies, including departments of ICE, have supported diplomatic security details in the past, so this is not unprecedented. Just the timing is such that I'd probably adjust things around. We'll see if ICE manages to kill some Italians too. | ||
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Legan
Finland552 Posts
On January 27 2026 21:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: We'll see if ICE manages to kill some Italians too. Americans claiming Italian heritage are going to have a hell of a time if that happens. | ||
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Billyboy
1413 Posts
On January 27 2026 11:15 Mohdoo wrote: I think Trump is hoping that giving Walz an easy off-ramp will be warmly accepted and quickly utilized. And he’s probably right. Protests are only an actual problem for fascists when Joe Shmoe is pissed off enough to join in. All he needs to do is throw a bone to get the centrists to go back to being cowards and ICE can continue with a new leader. I miss the old mohdoo before he became a populist edge lord. The one that was brave and honest about how he had to think about his kids before doing certain things and so on. Do people now a days really have ZERO empathy? Hopefully you were at least brave enough to actually vote, campaign for candidates, you know do actual things that help. I'll take me a "coward" centrist who actually does something vs a either wing online "brave" keyboard warrior, 10 out of 10 times. On January 27 2026 19:38 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: It speaks volumes when conservatives and their leaders go out of their way to lie/mislead/fabricate to justify the murders, like pretending that a murder victim first ran over an ICE agent with her car, or pretending that a murder victim first pulled a gun on an ICE agent. It just goes to show how bad-faith these conservatives are, and how little defense the ICE agents have when the actual facts and video evidence are examined. No one is MAGA, or supporting a Republican is a conservative anymore. They are rightwing populists. And with populists only some of the rhetoric is their wing, the actions are whatever gets the crowd maddest. Actual conservatives hate Trump, same with libertarian's. Calling Trump supporters, or MAGA losers conservatives gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. Populists are the worst because they have no actual values. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45246 Posts
On January 27 2026 21:56 Billyboy wrote: No one is MAGA, or supporting a Republican is a conservative anymore. They are rightwing populists. And with populists only some of the rhetoric is their wing, the actions are whatever gets the crowd maddest. Actual conservatives hate Trump, same with libertarian's. Calling Trump supporters, or MAGA losers conservatives gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. Populists are the worst because they have no actual values. Eh, I don't know if invoking the No True | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8703 Posts
add this filthy rich propagandist and fake populist fuck + the most atrocious ICE operations + Trump on one of his "insurrection act& my power is only restricted by my morals" headlines into an election clip and you get a revolutionary rallying cry that makes MAGA quake in their boots. the destroyed West Wing as a representation of the Rule of Law under Trump. there's so much to choose from with those criminally dangerous idiots. that in itself kinda makes it hard to pick and choose lol. | ||
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Vivax
22158 Posts
The ones who profit from Trumps policies are always the same… In the upper wealth brackets. I do hope nobody dies at the olympics when the schlägertrupps tag along. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17232 Posts
On January 27 2026 21:56 Billyboy wrote: I miss the old mohdoo before he became a populist edge lord. The one that was brave and honest about how he had to think about his kids before doing certain things and so on. Do people now a days really have ZERO empathy? Hopefully you were at least brave enough to actually vote, campaign for candidates, you know do actual things that help. I'll take me a "coward" centrist who actually does something vs a either wing online "brave" keyboard warrior, 10 out of 10 times. No one is MAGA, or supporting a Republican is a conservative anymore. They are rightwing populists. And with populists only some of the rhetoric is their wing, the actions are whatever gets the crowd maddest. Actual conservatives hate Trump, same with libertarian's. Calling Trump supporters, or MAGA losers conservatives gives them more legitimacy than they deserve. Populists are the worst because they have no actual values. ya dude? how many Libertarians do you hang out with? how many events do you attend? tell me all about Henry Hazlitt in a discord channel with no AI or google searches. Let's talk about Piekoff's "fact and value" rebuke of David Kelly as he excommunicated him. so ya, i don't think you know enough to make these comments. How many actual, real life republicans do you know. I know about 10 very well and prolly ~30 casually? Having attended various Libertarian ( including Ayn Rand) and Republican events your comments do not add up. The most representative famous person holding the typical Libertarian person's perspective on Trump and his policies is prolly Rand Paul. Sometimes, Paul supports Trump and sometimes he does not. If people want to know what most Libertarians tend to think of Trump and his policies check out Rand Paul. A big portion of Libertarians hold their nose and vote Trump. SOURCE: https://www.npr.org/2024/11/29/nx-s1-5206591/donald-trump-is-a-big-reason-for-why-third-party-candidates-got-fewer-votes-in-2024 The Libertarian Party nominee, Chase Oliver, earned just about 640,000 votes, which is notable, considering the Libertarian Party's the third-largest political party and usually the most common alternative. SCHMITZ: Wow. So that's a sharp decline since 2016 when the Libertarian Party earned 3% of the vote. What happened there? And, BTW, it is a 100%, proven, real fact that Rand Paul's dad named his son "Rand" as a living tribute to the most important novelist of the 20th century.  Most Libertarians do not vote Libertarian. They vote for the closest approximation of a candidate with a legit shot of winning the election. In my lifetime I've voted, NDP (Canada's labour party), Liberal, Conservative, Hazel Mccallion, Democrat, and Republican. I don't think I've ever voted for a Libertarian candidate ever. My track record is pretty typical of most Libertarians. Although, I seem more willing than most Libertarians to entertain Labour guys and Union leaders. I'm more willing to give credit to great labour reps like Bob Rae and Buzz Hargrove than most Libertarians. my wife, sister-in-law, and next door neighbour are all Libertarians. They all voted Trump. When would i vote Libertarian? If Jesse "The Body" Ventura in his 50s or 60s or current day Glenn Jacobs were running in an election I was voting in.. I'd vote for them. | ||
KwarK
United States43533 Posts
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Jankisa
Croatia1107 Posts
The party of "small government" is OK with the government thugs in masks taking people away without proper warrants, Rand Paul waited for them to execute a man and try to use an excuse of "he had a gun" in order to say anything about this, and even then he didn't really muster more then a little 2nd amendment squeak. Ayn Rand is the most important novelist of the 20th century in the same way that Mein Kampf is one of the most important books, but I do understand that to someone of the intellectual depth of Jimmy here her drivel might be the most important things he ever read, assuming he read a book in his life, which, given his overall personality is very unlikely. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11734 Posts
On January 27 2026 21:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: We'll see if ICE manages to kill some Italians too. Well, Italians do often look a bit browner than Anglosaxons, and they speak some weird foreign language. So shooting them would probably be justified as the brownshirts feel totally threatened by them. On January 27 2026 23:26 KwarK wrote: Not sure if you mean Chairman Mao’s Little Rand Book or JK Randing. Could be John Rand Rand Tolkien too. The worst part about this is that i am only 99% certain that the Rs in Tolkien don't actually mean Rand, since i don't think i have ever heard or read his name with the middle names written out in full. | ||
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Billyboy
1413 Posts
On January 27 2026 23:02 JimmyJRaynor wrote: ya dude? how many Libertarians do you hang out with? how many events do you attend? tell me all about Henry Hazlitt in a discord channel with no AI or google searches. Let's talk about Piekoff's "fact and value" rebuke of David Kelly as he excommunicated him. so ya, i don't think you know enough to make these comments. How many actual, real life republicans do you know. I know about 10 very well and prolly ~30 casually? Having attended various Libertarian ( including Ayn Rand) and Republican events your comments do not add up. The most representative famous person holding the typical Libertarian person's perspective on Trump and his policies is prolly Rand Paul. Sometimes, Paul supports Trump and sometimes he does not. If people want to know what most Libertarians tend to think of Trump and his policies check out Rand Paul. A big portion of Libertarians hold their nose and vote Trump. SOURCE: https://www.npr.org/2024/11/29/nx-s1-5206591/donald-trump-is-a-big-reason-for-why-third-party-candidates-got-fewer-votes-in-2024 And, BTW, it is a 100%, proven, real fact that Rand Paul's dad named his son "Rand" as a living tribute to the most important novelist of the 20th century. Most Libertarians do not vote Libertarian. They vote for the closest approximation of a candidate with a legit shot of winning the election. In my lifetime I've voted, NDP (Canada's labour party), Liberal, Conservative, Hazel Mccallion, Democrat, and Republican. I don't think I've ever voted for a Libertarian candidate ever. My track record is pretty typical of most Libertarians. Although, I seem more willing than most Libertarians to entertain Labour guys and Union leaders. I'm more willing to give credit to great labour reps like Bob Rae and Buzz Hargrove than most Libertarians. When would i vote Libertarian? If Jesse "The Body" Ventura in his 50s or 60s or current day Glenn Jacobs were running in an election I was voting in.. I'd vote for them. Lots, and you make no sense, so there is no point responding to you. On January 27 2026 22:18 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Eh, I don't know if invoking the No True People without values are going to get sucked in. And some of those people branded themselves as conservatives for a long time. But the legitimate ones are not on board for all this bull shit. This is all the fringe end, with some window dressing but mostly graft. Even look at our thread, Falling is a conservative go see how positive he is about Trump. Most of these MAGA people are mind rotted. And then another large group of them just have no idea what is actually going on because their bubble of information and people is completely incorrect. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
Canada17232 Posts
On January 27 2026 23:27 Jankisa wrote:= Ayn Rand is the most important novelist of the 20th century in the same way that Mein Kampf is one of the most important books, but I do understand that to someone of the intellectual depth of Jimmy here her drivel might be the most important things he ever read, assuming he read a book in his life, which, given his overall personality is very unlikely. I have Aldous Huxley at #2. Given the myopia epidemic sweeping NA people would do well to read his book "The Art of Seeing". I love it when people wearing a -4 prescription tell me this book is useless. So , ya, sorry dawg... i've read a few books. you are incorrect. On January 27 2026 23:31 Billyboy wrote: Lots, and you make no sense, so there is no point responding to you. your generalizations about how libertarians view trump and his policies are incorrect. i explained how and why. you are correct though in that there is no need to respond. you don't know much, if anything at all, about what libertarians think. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8703 Posts
and congrats on being chosen for the focus group! how else is Linda McMahon the education secretary in the US now? + Show Spoiler + https://www.youtube.com/shorts/mmF4hk_MHGk but generally I agree with JJR that this is what Conservatism has (d)evolved into in the US and across its borders - roughly and in spirit I guess. and through the power of a global village a.k.a the world of social media - a Conservative party near you potentially. not that certain factions had not communicated before, but this "new tool" allows a certain cross pollination and streamlining of talking points mixed with brain rot like literally never before. I am afraid Rand Paul is not even half the Libertarian his father was. Ron was naturally "crazy" depending on the topic, but very consistent. Rand likes to play ball. a cushy government job does that to people I guess. even Libertarians. | ||
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