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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States1287 Posts
5 hours ago
#100941
Is that you John Bolton? Rarely see people with such a hardon for war.
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13855 Posts
5 hours ago
#100942
I for one can't remember a time bombing the middle east hasn't been successful. I'm sure the power vacuum will be picked up by the people we want and no american lives will be lost in the coming days and months.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
867 Posts
5 hours ago
#100943
I find all the Trumpers reactions funny, because they want to celebrate Don's big attack but they have been claiming that him getting out of all wars and being the most "peaceful president" was what made up for a whole bunch of stupid shit. But now they are coming to realization that he is also into bombing shit, but just way worse at everything else.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44141 Posts
4 hours ago
#100944
Trump once tweeted that Obama was so unskilled that Obama would need to resort to bombing Iran instead of negotiating with them.

Trump once claimed that Biden would start WW3.

There really is a tweet, an irony, and a hypocrisy to everything Trump says and does.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11348 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-22 03:40:23
3 hours ago
#100945
I'm very glad for the no new wars president- nobody would start a war if I was president and I could solve the war against Ukraine before I was even sworn in. Glad he got in. Prices are lower. Big peace. Much wow.

Sure puts to lie on why they've been dragging their heels on Ukraine though. Will no-one think about all the people dying?

Trump (peace be upon him) sure isn't concerned. But, hey. Let's go for full regime change in Iran as the next step. That's what everyone was voting for, right? 5D Chess. Trust the plan. Have faith and believe.
Moderator"In Trump We Trust," says the Golden Goat of Mars Lago. Have faith and believe! Trump moves in mysterious ways. Like the wind he blows where he pleases...
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44141 Posts
3 hours ago
#100946
In the same single tweet, Trump both bragged about dropping "a full payload of BOMBS" and shouted "NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE".

https://x.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1936573183634645387
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15597 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-22 03:59:27
3 hours ago
#100947
On June 22 2025 10:42 LightSpectra wrote:
Is that you John Bolton? Rarely see people with such a hardon for war.

I don’t see this turning into a war. I view the IRGC’s public execution as a net positive for peace. I think our disagreement here ultimately stems from what we expect to follow.

I think this is a rare moment where Trump and his team giving absolutely zero shits about international optics or standard procedure is a very good thing. I know the whole “you break it, you buy it” thing is supposed to describe a morally responsible thing to do after creating a massive power void in a country. History has shown us many nations are truly better off without their former adversary. Iran is better off trying to find its own way through this giant shift. The US saying “look, I only gave a shit about you because the whole nuke thing. If you don’t have nukes, I’m better off dealing with whatever bullshit you try to pull without me around rather than with me around. See ya later!” is better for everyone involved.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
867 Posts
3 hours ago
#100948
The big question now is will Iran retaliate on the US bases and ships or not. And if so how much?
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15597 Posts
2 hours ago
#100949
I don’t think Iran will do anything they know will lead to additional strikes by the US. I think Iran was justified in playing the game of chicken and not blinking. But once Khameini lost it all, it won’t surprise me if the military coup’s him. They may be less jihad than Khameini.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13855 Posts
2 hours ago
#100950
By your logic Khameini has nothing left to lose. They have many proxies throughout the middle east, if they're going down they might as well go down swinging. The people aren't just going to forget grand humiliations and the violations of their sovereignty like this. There are going to be consequences for this and there is no reason to believe that we're going to get the egypt outcome from this, where at least the people are ruled like medieval peasants once again.

The lesson learned from this is to never cooperate with an international agency ever again, all you will gain is giving the great enemy coordinates to take out your program whenever they feel like it.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15597 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-22 05:38:34
2 hours ago
#100951
On June 22 2025 13:44 Sermokala wrote:
By your logic Khameini has nothing left to lose. They have many proxies throughout the middle east, if they're going down they might as well go down swinging. The people aren't just going to forget grand humiliations and the violations of their sovereignty like this. There are going to be consequences for this and there is no reason to believe that we're going to get the egypt outcome from this, where at least the people are ruled like medieval peasants once again.

The lesson learned from this is to never cooperate with an international agency ever again, all you will gain is giving the great enemy coordinates to take out your program whenever they feel like it.

I don’t think Khameini has reason to keep fighting the US. It looks like they launched a giant retaliation targeted only as Israel so far.

And I think if Khameini tried to do something big against the US, his military wouldn’t obey

Edit: previously I said Khameini realized genuine sovereignty could only be achieved with nuclear weapons. Now that he took his shot, the possibility is literally 0% rather than a long shot. All the facilities will never be rebuilt.
tankgirl
Profile Blog Joined May 2016
380 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-22 06:35:34
1 hour ago
#100952
I never post here or even read the newspapers anymore but I couldnt escape the headlines.

I am not informed enough to have an opinion on this complex issue. But after 20+ years of Iran's shenanigan, I am just grateful we finally have a strong Commander in Chief.

On June 22 2025 12:37 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
In the same single tweet, Trump both bragged about dropping "a full payload of BOMBS" and shouted "NOW IS THE TIME FOR PEACE".


Don't need Twitter to be reminded that's what our president is doing. Someone graciously printed it on the backs of our one-dollar bill, which we exchange with our hands daily:

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Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria3853 Posts
30 minutes ago
#100953
Lets try the thing one more time that has failed literally every single time. But this time it'll be different.

Trump supporters sound like problem gamblers.
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
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