US Politics Mega-thread - Page 5004

On June 09 2025 06:05 LightSpectra wrote:
Nazi Lives Don't Matter!

On June 09 2025 06:17 Introvert wrote:
A few posters here are arguing that rioting and violence over the enforcement of immigration law is bad and half the other people here are doing a "I can't even" while displaying typical ignorance of how the process works. Is there an incident of left wing political violence in the past 9 months you guys haven't excused or even justified? It's almost like both sides are human and it's way too easy to echo chamber yourself into extemeism. I am beginning to be curious what happens in January of 2028 if a Republican wins.

On June 09 2025 06:17 Simberto wrote:


That is not a cemetery for the Nazis afaik.

On June 09 2025 03:30 micronesia wrote:
The concern is less about who is on the list to get investigated for deportation and more about how the authorities are going about it. They have been very fast and lose with grabbing people off the street in very dangerous manners (e.g., using unidentified officers who seem unofficial), rushing them out of the country to avoid interference by the courts that would slow the process down, violating court orders, delaying correcting mistakes, and making statements (from senior government officials) that due process is not required or should not be required.

On June 09 2025 08:19 Vivax wrote:
America is its own kind of nuts, comparing everyone and everything to nazis is getting rather stale.

Haven‘t yet seen people being pushed into ghettos and paramilitaries hunting minorities without repercussions.

Sure, the predatory capitalism there does that on its own already and some leaders like to borrow their rhetoric.

The purging of some positions in the government wasn‘t really promising either but I guess you‘re going to be fine after all with this shitshow unfolding.

On June 09 2025 08:22 KwarK wrote:

Your lack of knowledge of things does not mean they’re not happening, it means you don’t know about them. Not sure how you mixed those two up. Did you think you knew everything? Did you make any attempt to check whether any minorities had been hunted before asserting you didn’t know of any cases?

On June 09 2025 04:57 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
This thread has reached "head, meet wall. Wall, head." levels of stupidity. Arguing with these 3-4 individuals is a clinical study of insanity. If someone can educate me on why anyone still engages with these people, please, do so.

On June 09 2025 08:08 BlackJack wrote:


Some very valid points lost in a sea of people screaming about nazism and insisting that enforcing borders is racist. People on the left would be better off calling out the black sheep on their side making bad arguments so that people on the right can't chalk it all up to TDS.

for example
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On June 09 2025 06:17 Introvert wrote:
A few posters here are arguing that rioting and violence over the enforcement of immigration law is bad and half the other people here are doing a "I can't even" while displaying typical ignorance of how the process works. Is there an incident of left wing political violence in the past 9 months you guys haven't excused or even justified? It's almost like both sides are human and it's way too easy to echo chamber yourself into extemeism. I am beginning to be curious what happens in January of 2028 if a Republican wins.

On June 09 2025 09:46 WombaT wrote:

How was the nation founded in the first place? If youse had just kept asking nicely you’d probably still be a colony. A much refined, classier people, albeit with considerably worse teeth.

I wouldn’t personally agree with a giant immigration clampdown myself, for various reasons but if it was done in a way that wasn’t well, this I’d reluctantly accept it as undesirable, but legitimate.

I’m also sure many on the wider left would not, but that’s my personal position.

As it stands, I have pretty fucking big issues with how it’s being done. I’m no expert, or even a particularly well-informed layman on the legal particulars, but plenty of judges seem to share my sentiment while lacking my ignorance of the specifics.

We seem to be having something of a flip with modern day ‘conservatism’. While I’d still frequently disagree on a moral level in some instances, and the left would desire a more malleable constitution, adherence to that document, or laws and procedures was something I’d have said was a pretty consistent belief amongst conservatives, in rhetoric and practice.

It’s not really something I can say with a straight face these days, honourable exceptions notwithstanding.

On June 09 2025 12:23 Introvert wrote:


Immigration enforcement is being consistent with our laws. It's the dereliction of duty, primarily by Democrat presidents at the behest of left wing activists, that is why there is so much enforcement to be done in the first place.

A comparison to the American revolution to me counts as weakness as that's about as stained a line as one could possibly draw. Get back to me when the rioters have a continental congress or are arguing about the rights of Englishmen. Meanwhile, today we live an republic not a monarchy ruled from across the ocean. It's almost like all the nihilism I hear about on the right or the ends justify the means reasoning is just lefty projection. I might as well just shrug at the January 6 riot too I suppose?

I could keep going, but yet still no answer to my question. Maybe I could reframe it? What *would* be bad political violence, even theoretically. Anything at all?

What is the Alien Enemies Act?

The Alien Enemies Act of 1798 is a wartime authority that allows the president to detain or deport the natives and citizens of an enemy nation. The law permits the president to target these immigrants without a hearing and based only on their country of birth or citizenship. Although the law was enacted to prevent foreign espionage and sabotage in wartime, it can be — and has been — wielded against immigrants who have done nothing wrong, have evinced no signs of disloyalty, and are lawfully present in the United States. It is an overbroad authority that may violate constitutional rights in wartime and is subject to abuse in peacetime.