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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 06 2025 07:07 GMT
#99921
Democrats looking at trying to get Musk on their side is like the perfect encapsulation of their miserable, valueless form of politics.

Nothing screams fake ass bitch like trying to get Mr. Nazi Salute onto your team, the team that supposedly is opposed to Nazis lol
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43981 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:10:37
June 06 2025 07:09 GMT
#99922
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.

Which people? Progressives will never buy his cars again. You can’t come back from a Sieg Heil.

There’s this thing conservatives do where they literally can’t understand what it’s like to have values, only adversarial teams. They assume that everyone else supports their team and hates the other team purely because it’s the team.

For them a fight between Trump and Musk must necessarily be problematic for progressives because they believe a progressive must now welcome either Trump or Musk onto their team. They consider this some kind of trap.

They literally cannot understand that neither Trump nor Musk passes a value based judgement because they’re unfamiliar with the idea of values. They think we hated them both yesterday because yesterday they were the other team and that today something has changed. It hasn’t, we hate them for what they do. But you’ll never get a conservative to understand this because if they were capable of understanding values then they wouldn’t be a conservative in the first place. It’s the blind hatred of the other team that makes them a conservative, it’s in their core.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9845 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:18:36
June 06 2025 07:16 GMT
#99923
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.

Musk call orange man pedo
Musk good

Wild.

Sure, the situation is glorious, but ain't no good guys here.

On June 06 2025 16:07 Zambrah wrote:
Democrats looking at trying to get Musk on their side is like the perfect encapsulation of their miserable, valueless form of politics.

Nothing screams fake ass bitch like trying to get Mr. Nazi Salute onto your team, the team that supposedly is opposed to Nazis lol


I agree with you but also at the same time people talk about the Democrats not being opportunistic enough and this is where they are trying to be.
They can't really win either way.
RIP Meatloaf <3
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10884 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:21:37
June 06 2025 07:18 GMT
#99924
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.


You have any sort of proof of that?

I'm sure you can find a few morons on reddit that post such stuff but these were allways the hardcore Elon fanboys that followed him to Trump and will follow him wherever he goes.
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8744 Posts
June 06 2025 07:28 GMT
#99925
yeah... fucking Democrats.

oldheads may remember a saying from the old SC2 days - it was said back then even on stream, in spectacularly crude and outrageously cool fashion I might add - from one legend to another... one that has unfortunately left us way too soon a couple years back.

"one simple truth, dicks fuck pussies"-2GD to Incontrol at some DH

I understand trying to find an out for TSLA, the US will need everything they got to challenge Chinese EVs. but god damn Elon? at best tag him along and use him to burn Republicans.

then stab him in the back, same way he did when he 180ed on them after he showed himself the opportunistic little piggy he is by entering Trump World and spending ungodly amounts of resources to get them on their good side.

Elon suddenly stopping to tweet yesterday is a decent indication that "handlers" are already on the job anyway.

Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 06 2025 07:34 GMT
#99926
On June 06 2025 16:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.

Musk call orange man pedo
Musk good

Wild.

Sure, the situation is glorious, but ain't no good guys here.

Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 16:07 Zambrah wrote:
Democrats looking at trying to get Musk on their side is like the perfect encapsulation of their miserable, valueless form of politics.

Nothing screams fake ass bitch like trying to get Mr. Nazi Salute onto your team, the team that supposedly is opposed to Nazis lol


I agree with you but also at the same time people talk about the Democrats not being opportunistic enough and this is where they are trying to be.
They can't really win either way.


Every opportunity they take seems to be aligning with right wingers, it’s like their only play
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43981 Posts
June 06 2025 07:35 GMT
#99927
Which democrats are courting Musk?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18290 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:37:09
June 06 2025 07:35 GMT
#99928
My only question is what happens to those poor white South African refugees if papa Trump and mama Musk don't love each other anymore?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6119 Posts
June 06 2025 07:35 GMT
#99929
On June 06 2025 16:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.

Musk call orange man pedo
Musk good

Wild.

Sure, the situation is glorious, but ain't no good guys here.

He may be a drug addicted conman and liar, greedy narcissist who lives off the government's teet and is an avowed white supremacist crypto Nazi, but he has standards, even someone like that can only stand working for and keeping his family around Trump for 11 months before outing him as a pedorapist so you know he can be trusted.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 06 2025 07:36 GMT
#99930
On June 06 2025 16:07 Zambrah wrote:
Democrats looking at trying to get Musk on their side is like the perfect encapsulation of their miserable, valueless form of politics.


Which Democrat is doing this?
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
June 06 2025 07:39 GMT
#99931
On June 06 2025 16:35 KwarK wrote:
Which democrats are courting Musk?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/05/elon-musk-democrats-donald-trump-00389961

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-elon-musk-feud/card/democratic-rep-ro-khanna-says-party-should-embrace-musk-Ks6nmUWhWi9yiVrTprI0?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjzKeykpCvAJwglq7H-Aw7zjqyjhIOCF2PLjHWEiqmAaPP73itDFhv8c7Zuods=&gaa_ts=68429df6&gaa_sig=Y2hzpInw60mdcLLBIm1YhLuWCmecNfe_OWdvFhhmQfIecH18sT7QbzWo41z1pxUiwyQiv7QANvMAYe2dfXa3kw==

Ro Khanna of all people, among some other less surprising people like Ritchie Torres.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1151 Posts
June 06 2025 07:42 GMT
#99932
At the moment it's just internet vibes, but this will be picked up by "actual you know like journalists...on TV!" and amplified by gain 9000, because the story is SO JUICY.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43981 Posts
June 06 2025 07:42 GMT
#99933
On June 06 2025 16:39 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 16:35 KwarK wrote:
Which democrats are courting Musk?


https://www.politico.com/news/2025/06/05/elon-musk-democrats-donald-trump-00389961

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/trump-elon-musk-feud/card/democratic-rep-ro-khanna-says-party-should-embrace-musk-Ks6nmUWhWi9yiVrTprI0?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=ASWzDAjzKeykpCvAJwglq7H-Aw7zjqyjhIOCF2PLjHWEiqmAaPP73itDFhv8c7Zuods=&gaa_ts=68429df6&gaa_sig=Y2hzpInw60mdcLLBIm1YhLuWCmecNfe_OWdvFhhmQfIecH18sT7QbzWo41z1pxUiwyQiv7QANvMAYe2dfXa3kw==

Ro Khanna of all people, among some other less surprising people like Ritchie Torres.

Fuckers.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:44:30
June 06 2025 07:43 GMT
#99934
Khanna's always been a little slimy, no surprise there. That quote from Torres is hardly an open welcome for Musk though, it's just saying they have common ground in opposing the spending bill.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Jockmcplop
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United Kingdom9845 Posts
June 06 2025 07:46 GMT
#99935
On June 06 2025 16:34 Zambrah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 06 2025 16:16 Jockmcplop wrote:
On June 06 2025 15:58 KT_Elwood wrote:
People already starting to accept Musk back as "Real Life Tony Stark".

The attention span of the average voter seems to be...oh ice cream.

Musk call orange man pedo
Musk good

Wild.

Sure, the situation is glorious, but ain't no good guys here.

On June 06 2025 16:07 Zambrah wrote:
Democrats looking at trying to get Musk on their side is like the perfect encapsulation of their miserable, valueless form of politics.

Nothing screams fake ass bitch like trying to get Mr. Nazi Salute onto your team, the team that supposedly is opposed to Nazis lol


I agree with you but also at the same time people talk about the Democrats not being opportunistic enough and this is where they are trying to be.
They can't really win either way.


Every opportunity they take seems to be aligning with right wingers, it’s like their only play


I think people still labour under the misconception that because the Dems are nominally 'centre left', that they would choose left wing people/ideas/policies over ones that come from the very far right.
There's a brick wall between 'the left' and everyone else, and the Dems fall on the 'everyone else' side of it.
RIP Meatloaf <3
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States2567 Posts
June 06 2025 07:49 GMT
#99936
I don't know if it's a left or right issue to say Musk is so wildly unpopular that any sort of optics behind "forgiving" him is terrible.
2006 Shinhan Bank OSL Season 3 was the greatest tournament of all time
Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7393 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 07:53:56
June 06 2025 07:50 GMT
#99937
On June 06 2025 16:42 KT_Elwood wrote:
At the moment it's just internet vibes, but this will be picked up by "actual you know like journalists...on TV!" and amplified by gain 9000, because the story is SO JUICY.


I will agree it’s nothing particularly impactful yet, but Christ the Democrat track record screams embracing Musk, he’s their two favorite things, a potentially Trump-opposing-conservative monster and a billionaire, they’re predisposed to want to love him.

I think people still labour under the misconception that because the Dems are nominally 'centre left', that they would choose left wing people/ideas/policies over ones that come from the very far right.
There's a brick wall between 'the left' and everyone else, and the Dems fall on the 'everyone else' side of it


I broadly agree with this, but I think supporting Mr Seig Heil is gonna continue their trend of pissing off and disenfranchising their voting base for no good reason other than they love the taste of conservative dick in their mouth.
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43981 Posts
June 06 2025 08:00 GMT
#99938
On June 06 2025 16:50 Zambrah wrote:
disenfranchising their voting base for no good reason other than they love the taste of conservative dick in their mouth.

Progressives aren't really their voting base. America isn't very left wing.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11511 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-06-06 08:32:20
June 06 2025 08:12 GMT
#99939
Even beyond Seig Heil, Elon just tried to destroy the inner workings of the government and had his techbros without security clearance crawling all over areas they should never have had access to. Broadly, I'm for smaller government and cutting back on its inefficiencies but what Elon did was a travesty to anyone serious about finding waste and removing useless bureaucracy.

You have to know how a thing works in order to know what can and cannot be removed and Elon clearly knew very little. I've only done a cursory reading on what Clinton and Al Gore did, but it sounds a lot closer to what I would imagine such a process would be. Anyways, after his tech bros finished their drug-induced bender in what world can Democrats try and welcome Elon? Because that's who you are inviting in. Keep him the hell away from your party if you still want to make the case to the American citizens that Elon was incompetent and dangerous and was harming the federal government's ability to do its job.

I wouldn't want him any where near the Conservatives up here, so that should be doubly true for the Democrats.
ModeratorDavid Duke, Richard Spencer, Nick Fuentes, Daily Stormer... "Some very fine people on both sides"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
June 06 2025 08:19 GMT
#99940
When I watched wrestling as a kid you would see wrestlers “turn heel” as they say. Like Hulk Hogan joining the NWO and betraying his friends like Sting and Macho Man. That would continue on for months as the story line. But eventually Hulk Hogan went back to being a good guy again and backstabbed the villains he had joined up with. It took the audience about 0.5 seconds to lose their minds and enthusiastically embrace Hulk Hogan as the true American hero despite the fact he spent many months beating up the other fan favorites. If the average person follows politics the way they follow WWE then the left will surely embrace Elon again if he embraces their brand of politics. But I also stopped watching wrestling when I was like 10 and found out it was staged/scripted so we’d really need to call in the WWE expert JimmyJ to confirm my theory.
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