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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15468 Posts
9 hours ago
#99241
On May 12 2025 23:54 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2025 22:16 Byo wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this jet gift thing is a bit weird.

If it was a personal gift then why would the POTUS use his personal jet... Isn't that not really a "benefit" like using your own car for business. Even if trump sees this as perpetual gig, and there's no distinction between POTUS or himself then the POTUS should have no trouble commissioning a jet of his liking, he doesn't need to buy it per say. And what's a one time payment of a billion bucks truely mean in terms of the USA as a whole... Then there is the security concerns... Just doesn't feel right to me.
This is Qatar buying Trump his own Airforce One with all the bells and whistles and making the US government pay for it.

Could Trump just have bought one for himself as President and make the US pay for it? technically yes but I imagine he might get more pushback against it compared to Qatar 'gifting' the plane.

And yes this plane would be a security nightmare. Basically 100% guaranteed to be full of the most advanced listening devices on the planet. If its retrofit were to finish before Trumps term ends then it would be an insane security breach to actually use it, but we have defense secretaries talking over uncontrolled chats while the world is listening in so... /shrug.


I'm cool with it because the soft-MAGA types have to stare at the situation for what it is:

1: Pam Bondi was a registered Qatar lobbyist
2: Pam Bondi declared this transaction is entirely legal
3: Trump suddenly shit talking Israel shortly before this is announced is the most transparent thing in the entire universe

Its just a huge dump on the face of anyone who is trying to frame Trump as even slightly principled or non-corrupt. And while plenty of people openly embrace it and don't mind it, not really concerned with them. If this is happening anyway, may as well admire the giant pile of shit on some people's faces.

KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42255 Posts
9 hours ago
#99242
On May 12 2025 23:54 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2025 22:16 Byo wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this jet gift thing is a bit weird.

If it was a personal gift then why would the POTUS use his personal jet... Isn't that not really a "benefit" like using your own car for business. Even if trump sees this as perpetual gig, and there's no distinction between POTUS or himself then the POTUS should have no trouble commissioning a jet of his liking, he doesn't need to buy it per say. And what's a one time payment of a billion bucks truely mean in terms of the USA as a whole... Then there is the security concerns... Just doesn't feel right to me.
This is Qatar buying Trump his own Airforce One with all the bells and whistles and making the US government pay for it.

Could Trump just have bought one for himself as President and make the US pay for it? technically yes but I imagine he might get more pushback against it compared to Qatar 'gifting' the plane.

And yes this plane would be a security nightmare. Basically 100% guaranteed to be full of the most advanced listening devices on the planet. If its retrofit were to finish before Trumps term ends then it would be an insane security breach to actually use it, but we have defense secretaries talking over uncontrolled chats while the world is listening in so... /shrug.

That doesn't make any sense. If they want to know US state secrets they just need to ask Kid Rock or check in the bathrooms of golf resorts or ask members of the extended families of his DUI hires.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11759 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-12 17:04:39
8 hours ago
#99243
On May 13 2025 01:38 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2025 23:54 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 12 2025 22:16 Byo wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this jet gift thing is a bit weird.

If it was a personal gift then why would the POTUS use his personal jet... Isn't that not really a "benefit" like using your own car for business. Even if trump sees this as perpetual gig, and there's no distinction between POTUS or himself then the POTUS should have no trouble commissioning a jet of his liking, he doesn't need to buy it per say. And what's a one time payment of a billion bucks truely mean in terms of the USA as a whole... Then there is the security concerns... Just doesn't feel right to me.
This is Qatar buying Trump his own Airforce One with all the bells and whistles and making the US government pay for it.

Could Trump just have bought one for himself as President and make the US pay for it? technically yes but I imagine he might get more pushback against it compared to Qatar 'gifting' the plane.

And yes this plane would be a security nightmare. Basically 100% guaranteed to be full of the most advanced listening devices on the planet. If its retrofit were to finish before Trumps term ends then it would be an insane security breach to actually use it, but we have defense secretaries talking over uncontrolled chats while the world is listening in so... /shrug.

That doesn't make any sense. If they want to know US state secrets they just need to ask Kid Rock or check in the bathrooms of golf resorts or ask members of the extended families of his DUI hires.


Did you misspell DEI hires? He has done a lot of those as I see it.

Can't understand how so under-qualified people get hired otherwise. Republicans claim that is how you get them hired, so has to be the process they picked.
EnDeR_
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
Spain2627 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-12 17:14:50
8 hours ago
#99244
On May 13 2025 02:03 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 01:38 KwarK wrote:
On May 12 2025 23:54 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 12 2025 22:16 Byo wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this jet gift thing is a bit weird.

If it was a personal gift then why would the POTUS use his personal jet... Isn't that not really a "benefit" like using your own car for business. Even if trump sees this as perpetual gig, and there's no distinction between POTUS or himself then the POTUS should have no trouble commissioning a jet of his liking, he doesn't need to buy it per say. And what's a one time payment of a billion bucks truely mean in terms of the USA as a whole... Then there is the security concerns... Just doesn't feel right to me.
This is Qatar buying Trump his own Airforce One with all the bells and whistles and making the US government pay for it.

Could Trump just have bought one for himself as President and make the US pay for it? technically yes but I imagine he might get more pushback against it compared to Qatar 'gifting' the plane.

And yes this plane would be a security nightmare. Basically 100% guaranteed to be full of the most advanced listening devices on the planet. If its retrofit were to finish before Trumps term ends then it would be an insane security breach to actually use it, but we have defense secretaries talking over uncontrolled chats while the world is listening in so... /shrug.

That doesn't make any sense. If they want to know US state secrets they just need to ask Kid Rock or check in the bathrooms of golf resorts or ask members of the extended families of his DUI hires.


Did you misspell DEI hires? He has done a lot of those as I see it.

Can't understand how so under-qualified people get hired otherwise. Republicans claim that is how you get them hired, so has to be the process they picked.


That's the joke. Only if you're drunk would you think these are the most qualified candidates.

this may be getting lost in translation. DUI stands for driving under the influence (of alcohol or other drugs). It's also pretty close to DEI, hence the joke.
estás más desubicao q un croissant en un plato de nécoras
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42255 Posts
8 hours ago
#99245
On May 13 2025 02:03 Yurie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 01:38 KwarK wrote:
On May 12 2025 23:54 Gorsameth wrote:
On May 12 2025 22:16 Byo wrote:
Am I the only one that thinks this jet gift thing is a bit weird.

If it was a personal gift then why would the POTUS use his personal jet... Isn't that not really a "benefit" like using your own car for business. Even if trump sees this as perpetual gig, and there's no distinction between POTUS or himself then the POTUS should have no trouble commissioning a jet of his liking, he doesn't need to buy it per say. And what's a one time payment of a billion bucks truely mean in terms of the USA as a whole... Then there is the security concerns... Just doesn't feel right to me.
This is Qatar buying Trump his own Airforce One with all the bells and whistles and making the US government pay for it.

Could Trump just have bought one for himself as President and make the US pay for it? technically yes but I imagine he might get more pushback against it compared to Qatar 'gifting' the plane.

And yes this plane would be a security nightmare. Basically 100% guaranteed to be full of the most advanced listening devices on the planet. If its retrofit were to finish before Trumps term ends then it would be an insane security breach to actually use it, but we have defense secretaries talking over uncontrolled chats while the world is listening in so... /shrug.

That doesn't make any sense. If they want to know US state secrets they just need to ask Kid Rock or check in the bathrooms of golf resorts or ask members of the extended families of his DUI hires.


Did you misspell DEI hires? He has done a lot of those as I see it.

Can't understand how so under-qualified people get hired otherwise. Republicans claim that is how you get them hired, so has to be the process they picked.

He's hiring alcoholics on the basis of their sex and skin colour.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany825 Posts
7 hours ago
#99246
On May 12 2025 23:45 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 12 2025 23:40 GreenHorizons wrote:
Trump announced he's signing an EO to lower drug prices.

The order Trump is promising will direct the Department of Health and Human Services to tie what Medicare pays for medications administered in a doctor’s office to the lowest price paid by other countries.

“I will be instituting a MOST FAVORED NATION’S POLICY whereby the United States will pay the same price as the Nation that pays the lowest price anywhere in the World,” the president posted Sunday on his social media site, pledging to sign the order on Monday morning at the White House.

“Our Country will finally be treated fairly, and our citizens Healthcare Costs will be reduced by numbers never even thought of before,” Trump added.

His proposal would likely only impact certain drugs covered by Medicare and given in an office — think infusions that treat cancer, and other injectables. But it could potentially bring significant savings to the government, although the “TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS” Trump boasted about in his post may be an exaggeration.

He came into his first term accusing pharmaceutical companies of “getting away with murder” and complaining that other countries whose governments set drug prices were taking advantage of Americans.

On Sunday, Trump took aim at the industry again, writing that the “Pharmaceutical/Drug Companies would say, for years, that it was Research and Development Costs, and that all of these costs were, and would be, for no reason whatsoever, borne by the ‘suckers’ of America, ALONE.”

Referring to drug companies’ powerful lobbying efforts, he said that campaign contributions “can do wonders, but not with me, and not with the Republican Party.”


apnews.com



Didn't he just allow a rise in drug prices? And now he's going to lower them back? It sounds a lot like when businesses raise prices right before Black Friday / the holiday season, so that the "50% off" sale is really on goods that had just secretly doubled in price, meaning that it averages out to no savings at all.



He magicly waves the wand of centralized government controlled economy (=Marxism) and poof the drug prices go down by 80%.

It's just another idea. Like the tariffs that would make taxes obsolete... and now are basicly all off the table, with another price hike and serious supply chain issues to be dealt with.
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13816 Posts
6 hours ago
#99247
To be clear hes not lowering the price of prescription drugs he's just directing the government to pay less for the drugs. At the same time as he wants to onshore prescription drugs he's deciding to make it much harder to onshore prescription drugs.

You do not make manufacturing in america better by making it less competitive than other nations.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24409 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-05-12 22:41:05
3 hours ago
#99248
In some positive news, Dozens of white South Africans land in US under Trump refugee plan - BBC

Asked directly on Monday why the Afrikaners' refugee applications had been processed faster than other groups, Trump said a "genocide" was taking place and that "white farmers" specifically were being targeted.

Very uplifting to hear this administration is open to helping the victims of genocide, I assume they’ll be fast-tracking other peoples beset by such a process.
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44047 Posts
3 hours ago
#99249
On May 13 2025 07:40 WombaT wrote:
In some positive news, Dozens of white South Africans land in US under Trump refugee plan - BBC

Show nested quote +
Asked directly on Monday why the Afrikaners' refugee applications had been processed faster than other groups, Trump said a "genocide" was taking place and that "white farmers" specifically were being targeted.

Very uplifting to hear this administration is open to helping the victims of genocide, I assume they’ll be fast-tracking other peoples beset by such a process.


Massive sarcasm detected. (It's only a genocide if white people are the victims, apparently.)
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24409 Posts
3 hours ago
#99250
On May 13 2025 07:48 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 13 2025 07:40 WombaT wrote:
In some positive news, Dozens of white South Africans land in US under Trump refugee plan - BBC

Asked directly on Monday why the Afrikaners' refugee applications had been processed faster than other groups, Trump said a "genocide" was taking place and that "white farmers" specifically were being targeted.

Very uplifting to hear this administration is open to helping the victims of genocide, I assume they’ll be fast-tracking other peoples beset by such a process.


Massive sarcasm detected. (It's only a genocide if white people are the victims, apparently.)

Sarcasm? Moi?

In truth, an issue I’d like to know a bit more about, but there’s only so many hours in the day. My previous brushes in the wild, I’ve largely rejected out of hand based on who’s telling me.

If there are legitimate issues there I don’t mean to be entirely dismissive, although if there are I highly doubt they hit the genocide threshold. I’ve just only ever be exposed to it by folks who subscribe to things like the ‘great replacement’ theory,
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24632 Posts
1 hour ago
#99251
A guy I know through work has a Senate confirmation hearing tomorrow. Bold move becoming a political appointee right now hahaha
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
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