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On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE.
The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?"
AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how.
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On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how.
I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany.
I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration.
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On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how.
Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too.
Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.)
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On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face".
They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps.
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On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps.
I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats.
I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country.
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On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.)
I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs.
What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing?
On April 12 2025 01:06 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps. I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats. I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country.
Fair enough, but as you describe them, they are a significant oppositional force worthy of consideration in that capacity. Many/most/all of them would rather be part of Trump's project than banished to irrelevance or worse I'd bet/we see with the Fetterman types.
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Stupid 5 bullet e-mails aren't policies.. they are stupid orders. Fortunately, the process has smoothed out and it just takes everyone a few minutes each week to make the Secretary happy. Better that than to leave all the Chernobyl-preventer seats vacant because of one administration, in my opinion.
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On April 12 2025 01:10 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.) I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs. What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing?
Unfortunately, "pushing back" is indeed broad and ambiguous. I can't speak to how other people are handling other policy changes, but it likely depends on the policy and the individual. Some people may not be in a position to do much, and some people may have different approaches (publicly protesting, secretly resisting, doing the bare minimum to cover their own butt from a semantics perspective, etc.). So I don't have a great answer for you.
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On April 12 2025 01:14 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 01:10 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.) I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs. What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing? On April 12 2025 01:06 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps. I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats. I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country. Fair enough, but as you describe them, they are a significant oppositional force worthy of consideration in that capacity. Many/most/all of them would rather be part of Trump's project than banished to irrelevance or worse I'd bet/we see with the Fetterman types. Stupid 5 bullet e-mails aren't policies.. they are stupid orders. Fortunately, the process has smoothed out and it just takes everyone a few minutes each week to make the Secretary happy. Better that than to leave all the Chernobyl-preventer seats vacant because of one administration, in my opinion.
I mean the point stands, and as we see with the Acting IRS chief set to leave following Treasury deal to share taxpayer data with ICE there's plenty of overlap between policy and orders (probably more problematic for government to be taking "orders" from Musk imo).
But I really don't know what "push back" means, and it doesn't seem like DPB does either, despite advocating for it. AFAICT people are already doing what DPB is advocating and it's definitely not working.
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On April 12 2025 01:10 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.) I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs. What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing? Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 01:06 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps. I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats. I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country. Fair enough, but as you describe them, they are a significant oppositional force worthy of consideration in that capacity. Many/most/all of them would rather be part of Trump's project than banished to irrelevance or worse I'd bet/we see with the Fetterman types.
It would be great if democrats were juiced up full of courage to stand up to fascism, but there are too many examples in history showing that usually doesn't happen. There's a good reason many countries have systems in place to prevent fascist takeover at all costs. Its a tough thing to undo once it happens, if it ever even gets undone.
I basically don't see any reason to assume the US will do a better job at rising against fascism than Germany did. My hopes are very low. The gears turning are voices getting louder, more people talking about it, new faces getting attention. Its positive. But is it enough? Impossible to say.
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To be clear, DoD employees have not taken orders from musk on "bullets", only from Hegseth... which isn't terribly better but it's more sensible.
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On April 12 2025 01:39 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 01:25 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 01:14 micronesia wrote:On April 12 2025 01:10 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.) I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs. What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing? On April 12 2025 01:06 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps. I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats. I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country. Fair enough, but as you describe them, they are a significant oppositional force worthy of consideration in that capacity. Many/most/all of them would rather be part of Trump's project than banished to irrelevance or worse I'd bet/we see with the Fetterman types. Stupid 5 bullet e-mails aren't policies.. they are stupid orders. Fortunately, the process has smoothed out and it just takes everyone a few minutes each week to make the Secretary happy. Better that than to leave all the Chernobyl-preventer seats vacant because of one administration, in my opinion. I mean the point stands, and as we see with the Acting IRS chief set to leave following Treasury deal to share taxpayer data with ICE there's plenty of overlap between policy and orders (probably more problematic for government to be taking "orders" from Musk imo). But I really don't know what "push back" means, and it doesn't seem like DPB does either, despite advocating for it. AFAICT people are already doing what DPB is advocating and it's definitely not working. To be clear, DoD employees have not taken orders from musk on "bullets", only from Hegseth... which isn't terribly better but it's more sensible. I don't believe Hegseth repeating Musk's orders to DoD employees makes them not Musk's orders. Pretty confident you don't actually believe it does either.
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Well it's not as simple as "repeating" the orders. Musk/DoGe, via OPM, originally tried to order the government to do certain things, such as the 5 bullet e-mails. DoD (and some other departments) told its staff not to obey Musk/OPM and instead follow only orders from above within DoD after DoD leadership evaluates what Musk/OPM wants and when/how/if to implement. Implementation of bullets for DoD is better than for some other departments, such as how the e-mails are kept within military e-mail systems, not sent directly to OPM, filter out a lot of the bullshit from the original OPM request, and provide better guidance for how to comply in various situations, such as while on leave.
Still, the fact remains that the bullets are dumb. I don't consider them the hill to die on, in part for the reason I gave earlier.
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+ Show Spoiler +On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole l thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. I recall that it began with segregation first. The jews and maybe even communists were ID‘d separately at first and moved into ghettos where they thought that would be the peak of the mistreatment. Then they began vandalizing their shops and similar intimidation tactics. Only when the military was deployed sufficiently, the mass deportations into what seemed initially like labour camps began. They were procedurally converted to death camps. In analogy to Trump, extending the definition of terrorism to ‚otherthinkers‘ and people who oppose billionaires directing government procedures in what is really a class war at this point would be an early warning sign, along with flaunting military power and flagging people under certain categories that deprive them of basic rights. I don‘t know about you but defining people as ‚aliens‘ is already as dehumanizing as it gets when it comes to choice of words for illegal immigrant.
I hope I'm allowed to link this here, it gave me a good chuckle.
https://theonion.com/trump-boasts-about-strong-arming-trump-into-pausing-tariffs/
https://theonion.com/man-who-bumped-tesla-while-parallel-parking-sentenced-to-death/
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On April 12 2025 03:48 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2025 01:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 01:39 micronesia wrote:On April 12 2025 01:25 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 01:14 micronesia wrote:On April 12 2025 01:10 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:56 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Donald Trump's Secretary of Education (Linda McMahon) is desperately trying to one-up Trump's other Secretary of Education (Betsy DeVos) in just how uneducated the Secretary of Education can possibly be. Linda McMahon recently thought "A.I." (artificial intelligence) was actually "A1"... like the steak sauce: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/6QL0c5BbCR4 This embarrassment even led the A1 steak sauce brand to make posts and ads making fun of her: https://qz.com/linda-mcmahon-artificial-intelligence-ai-a-1-1851775785 The Republican party's vision has always been "If we create a dysfunctional and useless government, then we can convince people that all government is dysfunctional and useless", and that philosophy has been epitomized by Trump's quest to close down the Department of Education by making it implode with disastrous anti-education decisions like appointing DeVos and McMahon to be leaders of the DoE. The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?" AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. Immediately: Teachers and other people working at public schools could push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon, just as how other professionals could push back when their profession is being undermined by Trump/Musk/whoever. Those are things that could be done right away / during Trump's term, and non-educators could certainly spread the word and voice their support for better education reform too. + Show Spoiler +Future: It's also not a terrible idea to compile instances of Trump's crew being against education or against whatever supposedly appeals to potential voters. When it comes time for the next election, tailoring a persuasive argument based on whatever the group claims to be a top issue for them (even if it's not education) includes being able to list reasons why your candidate is pro-that-issue and list reasons why the opposing candidates are anti-that-issue. (Not knowing the difference between artificial intelligence and steak sauce is obviously a far less significant embarrassment, but there is plenty of substantive ammunition one could point to, to make the case that Trump/Republicans are anti-education during the midterm elections, during the next presidential election, etc.) I genuinely appreciate this effort even if my skepticism makes that hard to identify. I support the educational overhaul the US desperately needs. What does "push back against any anti-education policies that are being dictated by Trump/McMahon" mean though? Like how Micro and their managers "pushed back" against Musk's "5 things you did" thing? On April 12 2025 01:06 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 01:03 GreenHorizons wrote:On April 12 2025 00:49 Mohdoo wrote:On April 12 2025 00:36 GreenHorizons wrote:
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The questions posts like these always beg are "What are you going to do about it?" and "What do you want us to do about it?"
AFAICT the answer to both of those is mock and gawk at it along with you. If I'm wrong, I'd love to be shown how. I think gears are turning towards some form of genuine opposition against all this mess. But gears take time to move. In Nazi Germany, even many Jews were entirely convinced the whole thing would blow over until they got kidnapped from their homes. Many Jews felt like they were safe in certain areas of Germany. I think its very unlikely we'll see some kind of expedited development. If anything modern humanity is much easier to distract and divert away from action nowadays. It wouldn't surprise me if nothing ever builds against the current administration. We already know what "gears are turning" lol. It's the only gear libs/Dems/ilk have "Say you don't like the thing, then vote for who the Democrats tell me to (regardless of whether they support or oppose the thing) and anyone that doesn't fall in line is a stupid meany face". They are going to sit around ignoring any efforts at a plan until they can just thoughtlessly spam "well it's too late, you have to vote blue no matter who or you're the problem" like we're all chumps. I'm not referring to democrat gears turning. I felt like I was clear about this in an earlier post, but just to say it again: I don't really even view the democratic party as a valid topic of discussion. They are just a relic of an old political system. Anything that comes after Trump won't involve democrats. If Trump's government is ever replaced with an opposition government, it will be a party built entirely separately from democrats. I'm not registered as a democrat, I don't vote for democrats, and I don't view the democratic party as a valid topic when discussing the political future of our country. Fair enough, but as you describe them, they are a significant oppositional force worthy of consideration in that capacity. Many/most/all of them would rather be part of Trump's project than banished to irrelevance or worse I'd bet/we see with the Fetterman types. Stupid 5 bullet e-mails aren't policies.. they are stupid orders. Fortunately, the process has smoothed out and it just takes everyone a few minutes each week to make the Secretary happy. Better that than to leave all the Chernobyl-preventer seats vacant because of one administration, in my opinion. I mean the point stands, and as we see with the Acting IRS chief set to leave following Treasury deal to share taxpayer data with ICE there's plenty of overlap between policy and orders (probably more problematic for government to be taking "orders" from Musk imo). But I really don't know what "push back" means, and it doesn't seem like DPB does either, despite advocating for it. AFAICT people are already doing what DPB is advocating and it's definitely not working. To be clear, DoD employees have not taken orders from musk on "bullets", only from Hegseth... which isn't terribly better but it's more sensible. I don't believe Hegseth repeating Musk's orders to DoD employees makes them not Musk's orders. Pretty confident you don't actually believe it does either. Well it's not as simple as "repeating" the orders. Musk/DoGe, via OPM, originally tried to order the government to do certain things, such as the 5 bullet e-mails. DoD (and some other departments) told its staff not to obey Musk/OPM and instead follow only orders from above within DoD after DoD leadership evaluates what Musk/OPM wants and when/how/if to implement. Implementation of bullets for DoD is better than for some other departments, such as how the e-mails are kept within military e-mail systems, not sent directly to OPM, filter out a lot of the bullshit from the original OPM request, and provide better guidance for how to comply in various situations, such as while on leave. Still, the fact remains that the bullets are dumb. I don't consider them the hill to die on, in part for the reason I gave earlier.
And that's one convoluted way someone can be frogboiled into rationalizing effectively taking orders from a guy they watched give a Nazi salute multiple times on stage.
Those orders just had to go down the chain of command and get amended by a guy with white supremacist/Christian nationalist tattoos first, so they could be followed by people like yourself.
+ Show Spoiler +I don't say that to pick on you, I don't think most of us would do anything different in your spot. It's just an observation about how so much of the US government (without even the pretense of your Hegseth rationalization) is already effectively taking orders from a guy they all watched give Nazi salutes on stage and his white supremacist lackeys.
EDIT: If it wasn't obvious, this takes us back to Legan's post and my response to it.
On April 11 2025 02:23 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2025 02:15 Legan wrote:
Reading up on the company that sold Zyklon B to Auschwitz this week was interesting. None of the indicted got longer than 8 years sentences, and many apparently did not know what went on in the camp even tho they had a factory inside the camps and had visited the camps personally. Quite a few were acquitted, and a few were released because of good behaviour and ended up in high industry positions. I don't think much has changed in how we would treat people related to similar violations. It is just so easy to claim that you did not know what was being done by the people you supported. I'm sure the world's richest standing next to each other at the inauguration will share amnesia about the event in the future. All will just be accidental, even if the results are catastrophic. It's about Gaza, but it applies to a lot of US policy generally: One Day, Everyone Will Have Always Been Against This Show nested quote +“This is an account of a fracture,” he writes, “a breaking away from the notion that the polite, western liberal ever stood for anything at all.” It is a deft, broken-hearted, rhetorical savaging of comfortable people who say nothing (or pay lip service) but care only about preserving normality, convincing themselves that these things only happen “to certain places, to certain people”.
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Yeah I too am not happy with the state of affairs in the USA.
Enough to do something? Join the effort for a General Strike maybe?
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Yeah I too am not happy with the state of affairs in the USA.
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On April 12 2025 00:32 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2025 10:53 Sermokala wrote:
I think its the oppisite really. If trump wanted a trade war, and the Chinese peasents talk does lend itself to wanting to go scorched earth against them, he would need coordination to make it work. By presenting the Chinese as the reliable trading partner in the room they isolate other nations even more to turn to china. The more power and influence China gets in global trade the more they can survive the hit if they do go after Taiwan. IF they decouple completely from American pork imports the only thing that could stop china from going after taiwan is an naval blockade. The smaller nations they source their food imports from wouldn't survive having their primary market taken from them like America theoretically could. Is this line of reasoning not ignoring any economic damage caused by the trade war? People can argue over who gets hurt "the most" from this situation, but the reality is both countries will be harmed a great deal. Its not like whoever suffers the most is the only one who is harmed and the other side emerges totally unscathed. I don't think the issue of Taiwan has ever been about total military strength. As-is, China has the ability to flatten Taiwan, but would not benefit from flattening Taiwan. China's only real option is to seize it and occupy it. But China and everyone else knows sanctions and whatnot create a need for them to be in a good position going into it. The US complicating things with direct military intervention or anything else makes it precarious as well. Taiwan is deeply important to China, but they have waited this long because they realize it really is not super duper urgent and will not provide an immediate significant benefit. They have a lot to lose and its difficult to predict how things will go. If a prolonged trade war really does happen, I have a hard time believing they'll have the stability they need to let things shake around a bit from Taiwan's occupation. I'm not one of the types who insists China is perpetually on the verge of collapse, but China clearly chooses to play most situations as safely as they can. Their population and geography are both way too big to allow for instability. Things could spiral in a bad way if they bite off more than they can chew. And unless I am missing a critical detail, the immediate payoff of Taiwan simply doesn't exist. I don't think Xi would risk it. But I of course say this with a great deal of ignorance. The specifics of the internals of China and the US are not known to any of us. We don't know how much each side are really willing to commit to this trade war. We don't know if China really is a paper tiger barely holding on, or wildly unstable. Many things are simply beyond reasonable prediction. But I am offering my 2 cents because its a fun conversation to have. If anyone knows more than me, I'm always happy to learn.
The sanctions response is the thing though that this trade war prepares them for. If they are able to build relationships with nations where those nations become so dependent on trade with china and are not dependent on trade with the US that creates leverage for china to get them to not join the sanctions again them in a war to take taiwan. This trade war is creating that opportunity for them to break a lot of nations relationships with the united states. Australia for example could be flipped very easy with how dependent they were already on Chinese trade, if the tariffs come back they will have no choice but to go even deeper with china. The voting public is not going to swallow economic pain in exchange for not taking a deal with china that they can offer them.
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On April 12 2025 05:28 micronesia wrote:
Yeah I too am not happy with the state of affairs in the USA.
Too bad the only options are apparently walk with the facists or start a revolution to make everything worse.
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On April 11 2025 19:16 Doublemint wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2025 14:49 EnDeR_ wrote:On April 11 2025 14:11 oBlade wrote:On April 11 2025 05:31 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2025 04:13 oBlade wrote:On April 11 2025 02:40 Dan HH wrote:
I'm less concerned with corpo shitbags trying to make numbers go up no matter the circumstances, than I am with all the videos of gleeful smirking ICE agents that look like they were all just itching for someone to give them permission to act on their intrusive thoughts. They're not just following orders, this is like Chrismas for sociopaths. I am more concerned with people who skirt the rules to line their own pockets, destroy small businesses to build transnational untouchable conglomerates whose #1 concerns are cheap exploitable labor and dependent consumer classes, than the facial expressions of people who enforce the law against brazen and systemic trampling of it. What is the law worth when Trump just pardons people who side with him or run darknet market operations because it makes people buy crypto ? Try besieging the Austrian parliament and breaking stuff in it and see who pardons you. Vandalize the seat of US power = pardon Burn cars = Terrorism It‘s comical how the US is currently run. It already was on his first term but it wasn‘t as obvious. Dude has a Russian visum in the drawer. I have to exercise a lot of restraint on the daily to not take a fat crap over the situation. Case in point. Maybe mass burning cars that are targeted based on the politics of the head of the company to induce fear would best be classified a youthful mistake? A tragic accident? Protected political speech? Mere hooliganism? Burning a couple of cars is small potatoes compared to getting into Congress looking to hang politicians. Just saying. yes. is it good that property is damaged or destroyed? no. but there are laws on the docket already, going full gung ho on "tesla burners", categorizing them as terrorists does not even muster comical. it's farcical. people are pissed, and addressing the underlying reasons is key for lasting peace and good governance. having the richest person on the planet destroying government programs ordinary people rely on... to survive... is so far beyond the pale. mind bending stuff. doge and their leader then lied about massive fraud in the federal government, while being asked about it could not substantiate/verify anything. and to top it off mr. ketamine/elmo then has the gall to act like the cringelord he is at CPAC with his chainsawbrother + Show Spoiler +and some wanna tell me people being pissed at that are the problem? I heard it once said that the "US is a developing nation with a gucci belt". how it is being run kinda fits the bill. more good news... 73% of Americans are financially stressed. Two-thirds say tariff concerns are the source: CNBC surveyU.S. Budget Deficit Widens to $1.3 Trillion as Interest on Public Debt Hits Recordand for what exactly? what was achieved or is in the process of being achieved by the best people to ever lead, being led by the leader of leaders? if those are the collateral costs?
Bolded - so farcical...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism
"Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims."
https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism
"terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."
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On April 12 2025 09:11 Razyda wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2025 19:16 Doublemint wrote:On April 11 2025 14:49 EnDeR_ wrote:On April 11 2025 14:11 oBlade wrote:On April 11 2025 05:31 Vivax wrote:On April 11 2025 04:13 oBlade wrote:On April 11 2025 02:40 Dan HH wrote:
I'm less concerned with corpo shitbags trying to make numbers go up no matter the circumstances, than I am with all the videos of gleeful smirking ICE agents that look like they were all just itching for someone to give them permission to act on their intrusive thoughts. They're not just following orders, this is like Chrismas for sociopaths. I am more concerned with people who skirt the rules to line their own pockets, destroy small businesses to build transnational untouchable conglomerates whose #1 concerns are cheap exploitable labor and dependent consumer classes, than the facial expressions of people who enforce the law against brazen and systemic trampling of it. What is the law worth when Trump just pardons people who side with him or run darknet market operations because it makes people buy crypto ? Try besieging the Austrian parliament and breaking stuff in it and see who pardons you. Vandalize the seat of US power = pardon Burn cars = Terrorism It‘s comical how the US is currently run. It already was on his first term but it wasn‘t as obvious. Dude has a Russian visum in the drawer. I have to exercise a lot of restraint on the daily to not take a fat crap over the situation. Case in point. Maybe mass burning cars that are targeted based on the politics of the head of the company to induce fear would best be classified a youthful mistake? A tragic accident? Protected political speech? Mere hooliganism? Burning a couple of cars is small potatoes compared to getting into Congress looking to hang politicians. Just saying. yes. is it good that property is damaged or destroyed? no. but there are laws on the docket already, going full gung ho on "tesla burners", categorizing them as terrorists does not even muster comical. it's farcical. people are pissed, and addressing the underlying reasons is key for lasting peace and good governance. having the richest person on the planet destroying government programs ordinary people rely on... to survive... is so far beyond the pale. mind bending stuff. doge and their leader then lied about massive fraud in the federal government, while being asked about it could not substantiate/verify anything. and to top it off mr. ketamine/elmo then has the gall to act like the cringelord he is at CPAC with his chainsawbrother + Show Spoiler +and some wanna tell me people being pissed at that are the problem? I heard it once said that the "US is a developing nation with a gucci belt". how it is being run kinda fits the bill. more good news... 73% of Americans are financially stressed. Two-thirds say tariff concerns are the source: CNBC surveyU.S. Budget Deficit Widens to $1.3 Trillion as Interest on Public Debt Hits Recordand for what exactly? what was achieved or is in the process of being achieved by the best people to ever lead, being led by the leader of leaders? if those are the collateral costs? Bolded - so farcical... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terrorism"Terrorism, in its broadest sense, is the use of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims." https://www.britannica.com/topic/terrorism"terrorism, the calculated use of violence to create a general climate of fear in a population and thereby to bring about a particular political objective."
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