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Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
April 09 2025 18:21 GMT
#98321
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22415 Posts
April 09 2025 18:24 GMT
#98322
On April 10 2025 03:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.
The fun part is no one does, because Trump makes random announcements without info. The EU retaliated, are they also paused or will that go ahead? no one knows.
I've read that its not really a pause but everyone just gets the flat 10% instead, but who knows.


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17575 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:31:48
April 09 2025 18:26 GMT
#98323
i feel like singing the US national anthem now.
So, will Canadian steel go from 25% down to 10%?
what about BC's softwood lumber?

I wonder how long before the Steamdeck goes up in price? Looks like a $500 Switch2 is incoming and a $550 Switch2 with the pack-in game. If you're thinking about buying a Steamdeck.. its time to pull the trigger.

Thank God, Bessent is the voice announcing and presenting this and not Lutnick or Navarro. Bessent knows wtf he is doing.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44047 Posts
April 09 2025 18:31 GMT
#98324
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17575 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:35:22
April 09 2025 18:32 GMT
#98325
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6203 Posts
April 09 2025 18:34 GMT
#98326
On April 10 2025 03:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.

I imagine it'd be necessary to wait for an actual executive order release to know the exact effects, because a social media post is not a binding act of national policy - but he may also be able to do it just with internal memos/calls with Treasury and Commerce.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22364 Posts
April 09 2025 18:35 GMT
#98327
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 09 2025 18:39 GMT
#98328
On April 10 2025 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.


Everyone was requesting him to pause/cancel the tariffs
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17575 Posts
April 09 2025 18:44 GMT
#98329
I hope Trump putting Bessent out there is his signal to the world that he is not the crazy man he has pretended to be the past few months. I do not believe Howard Lutnick believes any of the stuff he has been saying for the past few weeks.

It is time for Canada to put American products back on store shelves and get to the bargaining table.
On April 10 2025 03:39 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.


Everyone was requesting him to pause/cancel the tariffs

No, there are people who think a trade deficit is a bad thing and want the tariffs. Also, Howard Lutnick and that Navarro guy were not pushing for a pause. Navarro and Musk have been going at it for weeks.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 09 2025 18:47 GMT
#98330
Obviously the yes-men he's surrounded himself with haven't called for a pause. But everyone else that's not a moron has been.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44047 Posts
April 09 2025 18:50 GMT
#98331
Canada went to the bargaining table very recently. They bargained with some guy called Trump and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America. You’re now proposing that they go back to the bargaining table and renegotiate that great deal. But they already did that and this is where we are post giving Trump his deal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4218 Posts
April 09 2025 18:50 GMT
#98332
On April 10 2025 03:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I hope Trump putting Bessent out there is his signal to the world that he is not the crazy man he has pretended to be the past few months. I do not believe Howard Lutnick believes any of the stuff he has been saying for the past few weeks.

It is time for Canada to put American products back on store shelves and get to the bargaining table.

Fuck no. I've already seen more products from south america and Europe hitting our shelves here. I hope that continues. Trump and many in America are clearly worried about how dependent they are regarding their imports from China, and they're right. That also holds true for us here in Canada now too, as the USA has now proven to be an unreliable partner.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17575 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:52:46
April 09 2025 18:51 GMT
#98333
The DOW went up 5% in 20 minutes this afternoon. LOL.
On April 10 2025 03:47 BlackJack wrote:
Obviously the yes-men he's surrounded himself with haven't called for a pause. But everyone else that's not a moron has been.

Trump contradicts himself for one sentence to the next. This makes it impossible to be a "yes man". Musk and Navarro have been bickering for weeks. Thus , both can not be "yes men".

i don't think Howard Lutnick believes what he is saying. he just BS-ed in order for the Trump regime to keep its cards close to the vest. Navarro? I have no idea. that guy scares me. It is scarey that he MIGHT truly believes these massive world wide tariffs were a good move.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
12096 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:53:20
April 09 2025 18:51 GMT
#98334
I really think this is an interesting presidency from a European perspective. First crater relations using the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine and get nothing out of it. Then start a tariff war. He is basically speed running losing your friends and allies of 60+ years in as short time as possible without actively trying to do it.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17575 Posts
April 09 2025 18:54 GMT
#98335
On April 10 2025 03:51 Yurie wrote:He is basically speed running losing your friends and allies of 60 years in as short time as possible without actively trying to do it.

is Canada really a friend when the PM of Canada brags about how they control some body of water 2384289 kms north of its northernmost province while expecting the US Navy to defend it?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11873 Posts
April 09 2025 19:03 GMT
#98336
On April 10 2025 03:35 Vivax wrote:
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.


I think the core takeaway for anyone running a company is to just ignore everything Trump does and says (at least with regards to foreign policy).

See what sticks around for more than a week, then react to that. Else you are going to get whiplash from the random back and forth policy changes.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland963 Posts
April 09 2025 19:05 GMT
#98337
On April 10 2025 03:50 KwarK wrote:
Canada went to the bargaining table very recently. They bargained with some guy called Trump and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America. You’re now proposing that they go back to the bargaining table and renegotiate that great deal. But they already did that and this is where we are post giving Trump his deal.


Canada went to the bargaining table back in 2017. They bargained with some guy called Trump, and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3396 Posts
April 09 2025 19:08 GMT
#98338
So a quick win has failed and he caved this easily.

Too bad.
Oil price drop could have really squeezed Putin.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13407 Posts
April 09 2025 19:10 GMT
#98339
On April 10 2025 04:03 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:35 Vivax wrote:
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.


I think the core takeaway for anyone running a company is to just ignore everything Trump does and says (at least with regards to foreign policy).

See what sticks around for more than a week, then react to that. Else you are going to get whiplash from the random back and forth policy changes.


Except it really does impact shipping and product prices and planning, it's a mess. It paralyzes them and they end up better off leaning their operations now because that's the safe thing, for some companies the alternative could be bankruptcy if projections are bad. They're gonna slow their investments for sure.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8753 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 19:18:45
April 09 2025 19:13 GMT
#98340
On April 10 2025 04:08 pmp10 wrote:
So a quick win has failed and he caved this easily.

Too bad.
Oil price drop could have really squeezed Putin.


at this point I would not even be surprised THAT is what stopped the tariffs - at least temporarily or whatever he feels like in half an hour.

saudis and russians complaining oil is getting too cheap.

what a time to be alive.

//typo edit
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
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