• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 01:01
CET 07:01
KST 15:01
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns5[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises3Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach
Tourneys
SC2 AI Tournament 2026 WardiTV Winter Cup OSC Season 13 World Championship uThermal 2v2 Circuit WardiTV Mondays
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution
Brood War
General
BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ I would like to say something about StarCraft Data analysis on 70 million replays Empty tournaments section on Liquipedia A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games?
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Trading/Investing Thread The Big Programming Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
How do archons sleep?
8882
Psychological Factors That D…
TrAiDoS
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
GOAT of Goats list
BisuDagger
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1027 users

US Politics Mega-thread - Page 4917

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 4915 4916 4917 4918 4919 5415 Next
Now that we have a new thread, in order to ensure that this thread continues to meet TL standards and follows the proper guidelines, we will be enforcing the rules in the OP more strictly. Be sure to give them a complete and thorough read before posting!

NOTE: When providing a source, please provide a very brief summary on what it's about and what purpose it adds to the discussion. The supporting statement should clearly explain why the subject is relevant and needs to be discussed. Please follow this rule especially for tweets.

Your supporting statement should always come BEFORE you provide the source.


If you have any questions, comments, concern, or feedback regarding the USPMT, then please use this thread: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/website-feedback/510156-us-politics-thread
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15725 Posts
April 09 2025 18:21 GMT
#98321
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22026 Posts
April 09 2025 18:24 GMT
#98322
On April 10 2025 03:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.
The fun part is no one does, because Trump makes random announcements without info. The EU retaliated, are they also paused or will that go ahead? no one knows.
I've read that its not really a pause but everyone just gets the flat 10% instead, but who knows.


It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17178 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:31:48
April 09 2025 18:26 GMT
#98323
i feel like singing the US national anthem now.
So, will Canadian steel go from 25% down to 10%?
what about BC's softwood lumber?

I wonder how long before the Steamdeck goes up in price? Looks like a $500 Switch2 is incoming and a $550 Switch2 with the pack-in game. If you're thinking about buying a Steamdeck.. its time to pull the trigger.

Thank God, Bessent is the voice announcing and presenting this and not Lutnick or Navarro. Bessent knows wtf he is doing.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43401 Posts
April 09 2025 18:31 GMT
#98324
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17178 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:35:22
April 09 2025 18:32 GMT
#98325
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5795 Posts
April 09 2025 18:34 GMT
#98326
On April 10 2025 03:21 Mohdoo wrote:
I enjoy how despite reading everything about this, I still have no idea which tariffs are still in effect and which are not.

I imagine it'd be necessary to wait for an actual executive order release to know the exact effects, because a social media post is not a binding act of national policy - but he may also be able to do it just with internal memos/calls with Treasury and Commerce.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Vivax
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
22117 Posts
April 09 2025 18:35 GMT
#98327
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 09 2025 18:39 GMT
#98328
On April 10 2025 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.


Everyone was requesting him to pause/cancel the tariffs
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17178 Posts
April 09 2025 18:44 GMT
#98329
I hope Trump putting Bessent out there is his signal to the world that he is not the crazy man he has pretended to be the past few months. I do not believe Howard Lutnick believes any of the stuff he has been saying for the past few weeks.

It is time for Canada to put American products back on store shelves and get to the bargaining table.
On April 10 2025 03:39 BlackJack wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:32 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Shapiro called for Trump to collect victories where he could and take the off ramp.
it appears Trump is doing almost exactly what Shapiro requested.
On April 10 2025 03:31 KwarK wrote:
I’m really glad I’m not a supply chain analyst right now.

are you kidding me? now you can quadruple your hourly rate.


Everyone was requesting him to pause/cancel the tariffs

No, there are people who think a trade deficit is a bad thing and want the tariffs. Also, Howard Lutnick and that Navarro guy were not pushing for a pause. Navarro and Musk have been going at it for weeks.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
April 09 2025 18:47 GMT
#98330
Obviously the yes-men he's surrounded himself with haven't called for a pause. But everyone else that's not a moron has been.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43401 Posts
April 09 2025 18:50 GMT
#98331
Canada went to the bargaining table very recently. They bargained with some guy called Trump and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America. You’re now proposing that they go back to the bargaining table and renegotiate that great deal. But they already did that and this is where we are post giving Trump his deal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Impervious
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Canada4212 Posts
April 09 2025 18:50 GMT
#98332
On April 10 2025 03:44 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
I hope Trump putting Bessent out there is his signal to the world that he is not the crazy man he has pretended to be the past few months. I do not believe Howard Lutnick believes any of the stuff he has been saying for the past few weeks.

It is time for Canada to put American products back on store shelves and get to the bargaining table.

Fuck no. I've already seen more products from south america and Europe hitting our shelves here. I hope that continues. Trump and many in America are clearly worried about how dependent they are regarding their imports from China, and they're right. That also holds true for us here in Canada now too, as the USA has now proven to be an unreliable partner.
~ \(ˌ)im-ˈpər-vē-əs\ : not capable of being damaged or harmed.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17178 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:52:46
April 09 2025 18:51 GMT
#98333
The DOW went up 5% in 20 minutes this afternoon. LOL.
On April 10 2025 03:47 BlackJack wrote:
Obviously the yes-men he's surrounded himself with haven't called for a pause. But everyone else that's not a moron has been.

Trump contradicts himself for one sentence to the next. This makes it impossible to be a "yes man". Musk and Navarro have been bickering for weeks. Thus , both can not be "yes men".

i don't think Howard Lutnick believes what he is saying. he just BS-ed in order for the Trump regime to keep its cards close to the vest. Navarro? I have no idea. that guy scares me. It is scarey that he MIGHT truly believes these massive world wide tariffs were a good move.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Yurie
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
11990 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 18:53:20
April 09 2025 18:51 GMT
#98334
I really think this is an interesting presidency from a European perspective. First crater relations using the Russian war of aggression against Ukraine and get nothing out of it. Then start a tariff war. He is basically speed running losing your friends and allies of 60+ years in as short time as possible without actively trying to do it.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17178 Posts
April 09 2025 18:54 GMT
#98335
On April 10 2025 03:51 Yurie wrote:He is basically speed running losing your friends and allies of 60 years in as short time as possible without actively trying to do it.

is Canada really a friend when the PM of Canada brags about how they control some body of water 2384289 kms north of its northernmost province while expecting the US Navy to defend it?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11706 Posts
April 09 2025 19:03 GMT
#98336
On April 10 2025 03:35 Vivax wrote:
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.


I think the core takeaway for anyone running a company is to just ignore everything Trump does and says (at least with regards to foreign policy).

See what sticks around for more than a week, then react to that. Else you are going to get whiplash from the random back and forth policy changes.
hexhaven
Profile Joined July 2014
Finland955 Posts
April 09 2025 19:05 GMT
#98337
On April 10 2025 03:50 KwarK wrote:
Canada went to the bargaining table very recently. They bargained with some guy called Trump and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America. You’re now proposing that they go back to the bargaining table and renegotiate that great deal. But they already did that and this is where we are post giving Trump his deal.


Canada went to the bargaining table back in 2017. They bargained with some guy called Trump, and that Trump guy said that it was a great deal for America.
WriterI shoot events. | http://www.jussi.co/esports
pmp10
Profile Joined April 2012
3378 Posts
April 09 2025 19:08 GMT
#98338
So a quick win has failed and he caved this easily.

Too bad.
Oil price drop could have really squeezed Putin.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 09 2025 19:10 GMT
#98339
On April 10 2025 04:03 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 10 2025 03:35 Vivax wrote:
This is CombatEX tier of running a superpower.


I think the core takeaway for anyone running a company is to just ignore everything Trump does and says (at least with regards to foreign policy).

See what sticks around for more than a week, then react to that. Else you are going to get whiplash from the random back and forth policy changes.


Except it really does impact shipping and product prices and planning, it's a mess. It paralyzes them and they end up better off leaning their operations now because that's the safe thing, for some companies the alternative could be bankruptcy if projections are bad. They're gonna slow their investments for sure.
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8674 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-04-09 19:18:45
April 09 2025 19:13 GMT
#98340
On April 10 2025 04:08 pmp10 wrote:
So a quick win has failed and he caved this easily.

Too bad.
Oil price drop could have really squeezed Putin.


at this point I would not even be surprised THAT is what stopped the tariffs - at least temporarily or whatever he feels like in half an hour.

saudis and russians complaining oil is getting too cheap.

what a time to be alive.

//typo edit
Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Prev 1 4915 4916 4917 4918 4919 5415 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
SOOP
04:00
SOOP Invitational #1
Liquipedia
PiGosaur Cup
01:00
#63
SteadfastSC88
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft452
Nina 132
SteadfastSC 88
StarCraft: Brood War
BeSt 323
Pusan 165
GuemChi 152
ggaemo 100
Shuttle 95
Shine 67
EffOrt 61
ZergMaN 55
Bale 34
Noble 18
[ Show more ]
zelot 12
Icarus 7
Dota 2
XaKoH 288
LuMiX1
League of Legends
JimRising 867
C9.Mang0605
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox784
Mew2King8
Other Games
summit1g7661
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick33110
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 156
• Diggity8
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt309
Other Games
• Shiphtur266
Upcoming Events
OSC
5h 59m
OSC
1d 7h
SOOP
2 days
The PondCast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
IPSL
4 days
DragOn vs Sziky
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-05
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
OSC Championship Season 13
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.