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Legan
Finland330 Posts
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Billyboy
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43802 Posts
On March 09 2025 01:09 Excludos wrote: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/07/trump-cabinet-confronted-elon-musk-white-house-showdown/ The amount of stupidity in this room is just genuinely unbelivable So Trump is telling Musk to fire people, just so Trump can have other people rehire them? First the nuclear security experts, and now flight experts? | ||
Gorsameth
Netherlands21373 Posts
On March 09 2025 04:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Trump probably thought Musk would sell all the thousands of government employees that sit around doing nothing, or don't even exist and not the actual important people doing things.So Trump is telling Musk to fire people, just so Trump can have other people rehire them? First the nuclear security experts, and now flight experts? Turns out both of them are just idiots. | ||
GreenHorizons
United States22734 Posts
On March 09 2025 04:19 Gorsameth wrote: Trump probably thought Musk would sell all the thousands of government employees that sit around doing nothing, or don't even exist and not the actual important people doing things. Turns out both of them are just idiots. LibHorizons: Remarkable how they ended up with the most money and power out of anyone in the US, isn't it? It doesn't mean they are geniuses, but it has to mean something pretty important right? | ||
Timebon3s
Norway614 Posts
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Excludos
Norway7964 Posts
On March 09 2025 08:44 Timebon3s wrote: Why are u writing libhorizing in front of every post? He's larping. Or his mind finally broke. Whatever it is, best not engage | ||
GreenHorizons
United States22734 Posts
On March 09 2025 08:44 Timebon3s wrote: Why are u writing libhorizing in front of every post? LibHorizons: GH has explained this before GH: The idea is that I'd like people to try out behaving as a socialist in my blog so I might as well demonstrate I can and am doing that with behaving like a progressive. LibHorizons doesn't advocate the abolition of capitalism, votes for Democrats, believes in electoralism supplemented by direct action, and so on. Sort of 21st century Bull Moose Progressive. I'd argue LibHorizons since inception is demonstrably a better Democrat than anyone here despite being on the periphery of the party and an informal demonstration of my capacity to behave like Democrats should. ThirdHorizons: I'm not much of a fan of GreenHorizons Or LibHorizons. Think I'll be taking the lead for a bit. To that point, since all the other libs/Dems/ilk here are too shy to offer an alternative to LibHorizons Plan, here's some important takeaways from the Third Way assessment and plan to move forward. Takeaways on Why Democrats Have a Cultural Disconnect with the Working Class 1. Overemphasis on Identity Politics Many working-class voters feel Democrats prioritize niche identity-based groups with overbroad, unifying messages, making them feel excluded rather than included. 2. The “Faculty Lounge” Problem Democrats are often viewed as judgmental, out-of-touch, and dismissive of those without elite education or progressive views. This makes the party seem disconnected from everyday people. 3. Failure to Prioritize Economic Concerns While voters struggle with jobs, wages, and inflation, Democrats are seen as more focused on cultural and social issues than on economic progress and opportunity. 4. Weak Messaging & Communication The party’s language is often vague, politically correct, or overly intellectual, making it hard for working class voters to connect with Democratic policies. 5. Fear of Dissent Within the Party Democrats are perceived as intolerant of internal debate, where questioning progressive orthodoxy results in backlash rather than open discussion. Candidates and operatives need to feel more comfortable just saying NO to activist groups and unpalatable far-left ideas. 6. Attachment to Unpopular Institutions Democrats are seen as defending elite institutions (academia, media, government bureaucracy) while being critical of institutions working-class people value (churches, small businesses, police). 7. Allowing the Far Left to Define the Party Activist groups and progressive staffers push unpopular cultural positions, making it seem like Democrats are more extreme than they actually are. Operatives and campaigns must remember that activist groups exist to promote their single issue and raise money around it, not to make Democrats electable. 8. Reactionary Rather Than Proactive Democrats often let Republicans set the terms of cultural debates (e.g., crime, immigration) instead of clearly defining their own positions in a way that resonates with voters. 9. Overreliance on Buzzwords & Political Correctness Terms like "pregnant people" and "Latinx" alienate working-class voters who see them as out of touch with real-world terms and vocabulary. 10. Lack of a Positive National Identity Message Democrats focus too much on America’s flaws (racism, sexism, inequality) without acknowledging the country’s progress and potential, making them seem pessimistic and unpatriotic. | ||
WombaT
Northern Ireland23894 Posts
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Laurens
Belgium4518 Posts
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Excludos
Norway7964 Posts
Expect to hear a lot more about this in the coming months. This will be Trumps final ascension to total unchecked power. | ||
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