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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
On March 08 2025 10:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I found a man who deserves zero sympathy: Show nested quote +U.S. citizen detained by ICE questions vote for Trump: 'Just following Hispanic people'
A Virginia man said he was driving to work Wednesday with two other men near his home in Virginia when he was stopped by ICE agents with guns in their hands. A naturalized Virginia resident said he's questioning his vote for President Donald Trump after agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained him this week when they were looking for another person on a deportation order. ... An agent then asked Machado how did he get into the U.S. and if he was awaiting a court date or if he had a pending immigration case. ... Machado said the experience shook his faith in Trump's immigration enforcement efforts. “I was a Trump supporter,” he said. “I voted for Trump last election." Machado said he thought the Trump administration would "just go against criminals, not every Hispanic looking, like, that they will assume that we are all illegals.” “That’s what they’re doing, now,” Machado said. “They’re just following Hispanic people.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-detained-ice-questions-vote-trump-rcna195406Trump literally campaigned on attacking every brown person in sight, whether they were legal or illegal residents. Vance totally fabricated the accusation that brown people *who were in the country legally* were stealing and eating people's pets. What the heck did this brown-skinned Republican think would happen to him?
FAFO
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On March 08 2025 06:36 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 02:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Quick question before I go back to lurking.
Does anyone else think the dual personality posting from GH a bit...much? I'm refraining from calling it insane, but it's like...nothing in the meat of the responses has changed. It's still the same moral high horse with a tiny bit of self-reflection on their errors leading up to the election. Still a ton of verbal abuse towards those that have been talking about this stuff for a while.
I'd think the non-engagement from people would be a hint, especially from KwarK, but it seems that they've doubled down on this idiotic notion. Is it just me? I think GH's impersonation of some generic liberal is a decent one - if all of his posts were written by some new TL user, then I wouldn't really think anything of it - although I'm not entirely sure if that persona adds anything new to the conversation (certainly not in the same way that GH's real posts add a new perspective). + Show Spoiler +I kind of see it as redundant and I kind of see it as weird, but I also don't think it's a terrible strawman. I agree with some of what he says as a liberal, and I disagree with some of what he says as a liberal. That's just me though; I don't really care if he roleplays, as long as he doesn't project all of his liberal statements onto everyone else and assume that he's going to perfectly mimic everyone else's beliefs all the time.
LibHorizons: I've literally provided the best plan here + Show Spoiler +LibHorizons: Beyond what I've already provided + Show Spoiler + primary Democrats that aren't showing sufficient will to fight/oppose the Trump admin's agenda a bit: Not every Democrat needs to be primaried. Those of us in safe blue states with Democrats unlikely to not clear the bar for not being primaried can direct resources toward places where the Democrats do need to be primaried. But we need a reasonably objective way to determine which is which.
Thus far Democrats and their supporters have failed to provide that. I'm open to hearing their ideas, but lacking that, I feel obligated as a progressive to present something that is better than nothing. Sooo...
Having a deliberate and executable plan (with a simple name like "project 2025" or "The New Deal" or whatever) and making support for it be the litmus test. You support it, no primary. You don't support it, you get primaried, and the party doesn't bail you out. The party should let Bernie, AOC, and The Squad lead the way in setting the terms, but they've all shown they can be very reasonable and show deference to the party generally. So it's not as if they would ignore the needs/preferences of the more centrist parts of the party entirely, or even to the degree they've been pushed to the periphery by said centrists. (which is more than anyone else) I'd elaborate by saying: Beyond the basic outline of a plan of how to even get the opportunity to vote for people like Bernie I have provided, I presume you're asking what are Bernie/AOC/The Squad's positions I currently think should take center stage? 1. Medicare for all 2. Green New Deal 3. You can pick There's a process to the electoral system in the US, and part of it is the primary. In order to have someone like Bernie to vote for in a general election against the Republican, they have to win the primary against the Democrats that "aren't willing to fight" sufficiently against the Trump administration's agenda. But to know who those Democrats are we need some sort of fair/honest/objective metric. Since 0 libs/Dems/ilk provided anything resembling such a metric I provided the idea of making it essentially whether or not they supported the aforementioned 3 policies. Winning such a primary also requires spending every possible second developing the opposition campaigns to any of these entrenched Democrats that are collaborating with or appeasing Trump/Musk. Based on how aggressively the libs/Dems/ilk here are refusing to even try to work on how to improve the candidates Democrat voters have to choose from and/or ensure they have legitimate elections to engage in, I can't believe their rhetoric about wanting Democrats to be any better/more than they are being right now. Their inattentiveness is enabling the worst aspects of Democrats (and also the most fascist Republicans).
The fact of the matter is that none of the other lib/Dem/ilk posters here have demonstrated any sincere interest in doing that. The consequences of this collective inattentiveness among us libs/Dems/ilk are already catastrophic and compounding by the day, if not hour.
I don't say all this as braggart or a scold, but as a startlingly concerning observation of reality.
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I suspect r/leopardsatemyface is going to be the centre of the internet for the next few years.
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On March 08 2025 02:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Quick question before I go back to lurking.
Does anyone else think the dual personality posting from GH a bit...much? I'm refraining from calling it insane, but it's like...nothing in the meat of the responses has changed. It's still the same moral high horse with a tiny bit of self-reflection on their errors leading up to the election. Still a ton of verbal abuse towards those that have been talking about this stuff for a while.
I'd think the non-engagement from people would be a hint, especially from KwarK, but it seems that they've doubled down on this idiotic notion. Is it just me?
The "hello fellow liberals" shtick would just be cringe if it wasn't established that this persona he created is one he thinks is a genocide supporter. He knows he's been so toxic to people that they won't engage with him anymore but he can't wrap his mind around making any sort of compromise. The sort of delusion you have to have to think the problem is that you yourself don't support genocide and if you can forgive that you can trick people into following you into the revolution is impressive if it wasn't sad.
Jimmy just makes me sad, I've seen immigrants like him that are just trapped in the cycle of self hate but I've never seen one fo that about Canada before.
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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
Anyone got any good politics podcast recommendations?
I used to have a good catch-all one that rotated between US/Euro and wider world politics but alas it’s on indefinite hiatus. Was nice in that the rotation ensured I wasn’t just bombarded with depression as say, a US-focused one would be.
Youse are (mostly) sensible lads and lasses with your heads screwed on so any recommendations would be great!
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On March 08 2025 10:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I found a man who deserves zero sympathy: Show nested quote +U.S. citizen detained by ICE questions vote for Trump: 'Just following Hispanic people'
A Virginia man said he was driving to work Wednesday with two other men near his home in Virginia when he was stopped by ICE agents with guns in their hands. A naturalized Virginia resident said he's questioning his vote for President Donald Trump after agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained him this week when they were looking for another person on a deportation order. ... An agent then asked Machado how did he get into the U.S. and if he was awaiting a court date or if he had a pending immigration case. ... Machado said the experience shook his faith in Trump's immigration enforcement efforts. “I was a Trump supporter,” he said. “I voted for Trump last election." Machado said he thought the Trump administration would "just go against criminals, not every Hispanic looking, like, that they will assume that we are all illegals.” “That’s what they’re doing, now,” Machado said. “They’re just following Hispanic people.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-detained-ice-questions-vote-trump-rcna195406Trump literally campaigned on attacking every brown person in sight, whether they were legal or illegal residents. Vance totally fabricated the accusation that brown people *who were in the country legally* were stealing and eating people's pets. What the heck did this brown-skinned Republican think would happen to him?
They always think they're "one of the good ones."
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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
On March 08 2025 10:31 Belisarius wrote:
I suspect r/leopardsatemyface is going to be the centre of the internet for the next few years.
I sincerely hope not, I already spend too much of my time masturbating already.
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On March 08 2025 10:42 WombaT wrote:
Anyone got any good politics podcast recommendations?
I used to have a good catch-all one that rotated between US/Euro and wider world politics but alas it’s on indefinite hiatus. Was nice in that the rotation ensured I wasn’t just bombarded with depression as say, a US-focused one would be.
Youse are (mostly) sensible lads and lasses with your heads screwed on so any recommendations would be great!
The Rest is Politics is probably your best bet. Rory and Allister between them speak like 10 languages and often talk about world events and elections in the smallest of countries. Also pair with Leading, which is a deep dive with a world leader or politician, they just had the president of Syria on which was excellent.
James O'Brien is my fav, you get a decent variety of topics with the most knowledgeable guests and callers. UK and US politics focused mainly.
The Majority Report is by far the best for US centered politics, but they have every other ish day a guest talking beyond the USA.
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United States42005 Posts
Alastair being the guy who bears a lot of responsibility for the illegal invasion of Iraq. I'm not sure why he's walking free.
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On March 08 2025 10:04 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:I found a man who deserves zero sympathy: Show nested quote +U.S. citizen detained by ICE questions vote for Trump: 'Just following Hispanic people'
A Virginia man said he was driving to work Wednesday with two other men near his home in Virginia when he was stopped by ICE agents with guns in their hands. A naturalized Virginia resident said he's questioning his vote for President Donald Trump after agents from U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement detained him this week when they were looking for another person on a deportation order. ... An agent then asked Machado how did he get into the U.S. and if he was awaiting a court date or if he had a pending immigration case. ... Machado said the experience shook his faith in Trump's immigration enforcement efforts. “I was a Trump supporter,” he said. “I voted for Trump last election." Machado said he thought the Trump administration would "just go against criminals, not every Hispanic looking, like, that they will assume that we are all illegals.” “That’s what they’re doing, now,” Machado said. “They’re just following Hispanic people.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/us-citizen-hispanic-detained-ice-questions-vote-trump-rcna195406Trump literally campaigned on attacking every brown person in sight, whether they were legal or illegal residents. Vance totally fabricated the accusation that brown people *who were in the country legally* were stealing and eating people's pets. What the heck did this brown-skinned Republican think would happen to him?
It's a community thing, it's exactly how religions spread. People will convince themselves 2+2=5 if that's important to the beliefs of their community and necessary to feel bonded and accepted.
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On March 08 2025 10:38 Sermokala wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 02:43 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:
Quick question before I go back to lurking.
Does anyone else think the dual personality posting from GH a bit...much? I'm refraining from calling it insane, but it's like...nothing in the meat of the responses has changed. It's still the same moral high horse with a tiny bit of self-reflection on their errors leading up to the election. Still a ton of verbal abuse towards those that have been talking about this stuff for a while.
I'd think the non-engagement from people would be a hint, especially from KwarK, but it seems that they've doubled down on this idiotic notion. Is it just me? The "hello fellow liberals" shtick would just be cringe + Show Spoiler +if it wasn't established that this persona he created is one he thinks is a genocide supporter. He knows he's been so toxic to people that they won't engage with him anymore but he can't wrap his mind around making any sort of compromise. The sort of delusion you have to have to think the problem is that you yourself don't support genocide and if you can forgive that you can trick people into following you into the revolution is impressive if it wasn't sad.
Jimmy just makes me sad, I've seen immigrants like him that are just trapped in the cycle of self hate but I've never seen one fo that about Canada before.
LibHorizons: You realize you could totally be talking about your ideas and how we (or you and DPB + the other libs/Dems/ilk) can work together on them instead of whatever you think this is?
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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
On March 08 2025 10:57 Husyelt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 10:42 WombaT wrote:
Anyone got any good politics podcast recommendations?
I used to have a good catch-all one that rotated between US/Euro and wider world politics but alas it’s on indefinite hiatus. Was nice in that the rotation ensured I wasn’t just bombarded with depression as say, a US-focused one would be.
Youse are (mostly) sensible lads and lasses with your heads screwed on so any recommendations would be great! The Rest is Politics is probably your best bet. Rory and Allister between them speak like 10 languages and often talk about world events and elections in the smallest of countries. Also pair with Leading, which is a deep dive with a world leader or politician, they just had the president of Syria on which was excellent. James O'Brien is my fav, you get a decent variety of topics with the most knowledgeable guests and callers. UK and US politics focused mainly. The Majority Report is by far the best for US centered politics, but they have every other ish day a guest talking beyond the USA.
Merci beaucoup.
The Majority Report definitely lost a lot when Michael Brooks passed, although they still put out decent stuff.
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On March 08 2025 11:01 KwarK wrote:
Alastair being the guy who bears a lot of responsibility for the illegal invasion of Iraq. I'm not sure why he's walking free.
"alot" is doing some heavy lifting. Blair is more responsible obviously, and the Brits could have actually pushed back harder, but its kinda hard when your closest ally is lying to your face with intelligence. I get the feeling Alastair was simply too loyal to Blair to really understand the magnitude of what was going on. First people to not walk free would be the top 5-10 American politicians and intelligence agents who kickstarted the damn thing.
I feel like Biden playing the ally helping Bibi and crew do what is done in Gaza is a much stronger condemnation than the Iraq War from the Brit side of things. With the Iraq War so much of what was being done was placing trust in our intelligence agencies and "surely there must be WMD's, they wouldn't lie to us right?" But in Gaza the whole world can see in real time there is no war. Its just shooting fish in a barrel for months and months and months. Israel doesnt let journalists in? Thats ok because Hamas.
I think Campbell is brilliant, but yeah the Iraq war is a major stain on his career since he helped oil the gears of the intelligence propaganda. Knowingly or unknowingly (he should have been a better journalist)
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On March 08 2025 03:51 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 02:34 Zambrah wrote:On March 08 2025 02:09 KwarK wrote:
DOGE found a building rented from the government but no listed users or info on it. Promptly attempted to sell it for efficiency.
It was a CIA black site. That is unbelievably funny, made funnier only by the fact that I cant even begin to tell if its true or not given the raw, unrefined, unadulterated stupidity involved in making that decision lmao. They also posted a list of all other sites they found that met the same criteria. Show nested quote +The GSA published the list on Tuesday and pulled it down the next day. Before the full list of 443 properties was removed, more than 120 properties had already been quietly scrubbed, including 14 buildings that did not appear to be listed in the Inventory of Owned and Leased Properties, a comprehensive public database of GSA holdings. https://www.wired.com/story/gsa-sale-cia-facility/We know that at least one site on the list was a CIA black site because it was already known to some people as an open secret. But every property owned by the GSA that met the same criteria as this CIA black site was also listed for sale at the same time. This is why move fast and break things isn't appropriate for government. Normally a junior employee would find the lease and go "this is odd" and take it to their boss. Their boss would go "yeah, I thought it was odd when I was new here too. But we know what it is and when you're the supervisor I'll let you know" and that'd be that. But DOGE just publish the whole list of properties that meet the same criteria as CIA black sites online.
Lmao, I know where that is, tremendously funny.
Maybe this is the real end goal, the rich people are so rich and disconnected that they're plotting the downfall of the US in the dumbest way they can orchestrate for the sheer entertainment value. Like constructing reality TV at the largest scale without having to really fake it.
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On March 07 2025 14:01 Husyelt wrote:Show nested quote +On March 04 2025 16:02 baal wrote:On March 04 2025 14:47 Husyelt wrote:On March 04 2025 14:35 baal wrote:On March 04 2025 11:58 KwarK wrote:
I’m betting Mexico because Iran can WMD. Depending on the speed of economic breakdown maybe by the end of the year.
They’ll announce some cross border operations and pretend it’s not war but instead policing of some kind. Mexico will protest but will do the Ukraine 2014 thing where you can’t actually stop the invading army and so you don’t mobilize and you don’t start openly firing missiles. Bad time to have family members in uniform. You think the US will actually invade Mexico and take land from us like Russia did to Ukraine? lmao Absolutely, it would start out as small incursions against cartels or what they claim are cartels. Mexico will have to engage at some point, and Trump will use that as an excuse to fully demilitarize much of the border. If that happens it would be an unmitigated disaster and the US would definitely lose after a few years, as turmoil and popular uprisings happen in every major city to stop the war, (and the army would definitely have major setbacks). Republicans telegraphed this even last year. So you think the US army will start blowing up civilians to force the Mexican government into declaring war so that they can annex like Sonora and Chihuahua or something? LMAO I wish I could open some polymarket style geopolitics betting market with only ppl from here, there are very unserious people in this thread, I guess if you really think Trump is the embodiment of the 4th reich these absurd scenarios don't sound as crazy to you but just think it through. If Trump were to wage an all out war against Mexico he would be immediately impeached and would for sure end up in prison, but lets go crazy and say he doesnt, ok now with 20% mexicans in the army you would see a split of insurrectionism within the army not to count the 40 million Mexicans living within the US borders that would make a 9/11 style attack every couple of days and then what, death camps for the 40 million lol. All this because they want to take a desert dryer than Arizona? and you think this is less risky than Iran because the might have WMD (they dont). Ok crazy scenarios aside, the US has already deployed troops to fight cartels before multiple times in latinamerica, and no they haven't taken any land nor killed civilians to start a war lol, so yeah if the US goes into Mexico (I hope they do), they can easily just do that, attack the cartels and defeat them with ease, they are disorganized militias and the only reason the Mexican army hasn't defeated them is because they are closely tied with the government so they don't want to, which is the main hurdle the US has always had and will continue to do so in trying to stop cartels, the government will do anything in its power to protect them, with intel, legally and politically. To be fair, I said "would" as in, if an invasion of Mexico actually happen, this is how it would go. And if you dont want non serious people like myself heres actual reporting (and theres been multiple over the past year of the GOP flirting with the idea) www.rollingstone.comTrump isn't getting impeached my man over a small incursion into Mexico, the Republican politicians are spineless. If Jan 6 didnt do it, nothing will, especially with the "normies" being ousted for not being loyal to the Trump Party.
You are talking about a war with mexico, against its army, not the cartels.
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Edited out the nonsense tbh.
Bad moment to form an opinion on anything.
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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
Speaking of dumb…
From BBC Sports App:
US President Donald Trump says the political and economic tensions between the United States and its 2026 World Cup co-hosts Canada and Mexico will be good for the tournament.
Trump has imposed tariffs - taxes charged on goods imported from other countries - on the United States' two neighbours
Asked how he saw the World Cup playing out, given the current trade situation between the three nations, Trump said: "I think it's going to make it more exciting.”
"Tension's a good thing, I think it makes it much more exciting."
Alright Donald, sure. I mean, I guess it could be quite fun if the US and Canada or Mexico survive long enough to face off, but only in a ‘fuck you’ sense. I can’t imagine such tariffs are beneficial to holding the world’s biggest non-Olympics sports event across multiple nations.
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On March 08 2025 23:37 WombaT wrote:Speaking of dumb… From BBC Sports App: Show nested quote +US President Donald Trump says the political and economic tensions between the United States and its 2026 World Cup co-hosts Canada and Mexico will be good for the tournament.
Trump has imposed tariffs - taxes charged on goods imported from other countries - on the United States' two neighbours
Asked how he saw the World Cup playing out, given the current trade situation between the three nations, Trump said: "I think it's going to make it more exciting.”
"Tension's a good thing, I think it makes it much more exciting." Alright Donald, sure. I mean, I guess it could be quite fun if the US and Canada or Mexico survive long enough to face off, but only in a ‘fuck you’ sense. I can’t imagine such tariffs are beneficial to holding the world’s biggest non-Olympics sports event across multiple nations.
The Republicans will lose their shit when they see the US anthem getting booed every single game. ;-)
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https://www.telegraph.co.uk/us/politics/2025/03/07/trump-cabinet-confronted-elon-musk-white-house-showdown/
Mr Duffy is understood to have slid a spreadsheet across a desk in front of the president, to allege Mr Musk was not telling the truth about the scale of his cutbacks, The Telegraph understands.
The exchange ended with the president ordering Mr Duffy to hire staff from MIT as air traffic controllers because the role requires “geniuses”, The New York Times reported.
The amount of stupidity in this room is just genuinely unbelivable
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Northern Ireland23899 Posts
On March 09 2025 01:03 maybenexttime wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 23:37 WombaT wrote:Speaking of dumb… From BBC Sports App: US President Donald Trump says the political and economic tensions between the United States and its 2026 World Cup co-hosts Canada and Mexico will be good for the tournament.
Trump has imposed tariffs - taxes charged on goods imported from other countries - on the United States' two neighbours
Asked how he saw the World Cup playing out, given the current trade situation between the three nations, Trump said: "I think it's going to make it more exciting.”
"Tension's a good thing, I think it makes it much more exciting." Alright Donald, sure. I mean, I guess it could be quite fun if the US and Canada or Mexico survive long enough to face off, but only in a ‘fuck you’ sense. I can’t imagine such tariffs are beneficial to holding the world’s biggest non-Olympics sports event across multiple nations. The Republicans will lose their shit when they see the US anthem getting booed every single game. ;-)
Ok that part will be fun at least. I especially look forward to the ‘I just can’t understand why they’re booing’ pearl-clutching that will accompany it haha.
Fucking hell.
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