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It feels like the rest of the world has kind of matured (Russia is racist gramps that's about to croak, but lives on for far longer than anyone actually dares to expect), while the US has taken too many hits of the blunt and triggered a latent psychotic episode and is now in a delirious state lashing out at everyone around itself.
It's become a caricature of the meme and celebrity culture and has become some kind of metaphysical entity that put a spell on the entire nation. Everyone is acting serious but the US is acting like it's all fun and games and we can just retract any threat just cuz ayy lmao.
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The denocrat party is the sum of its parts. You have leftists who've proudly worked against it for a generation publicly wondering why it's so weak. You have a costal population who are more willing to blame the establishment rather then wrestle with the reality of the demographics that didn't trust Bernie and would have rather gone with Biden. With the modern meta of gerrymandering you have the only elections either super safe districts that would require leftists to actually organize and vote to do anything about, or knife fights that will require you to appeal to low information voters to win. Petulant displays of impotence help neither of these elections.
The party is leaderless because they just lost a big election. Elections have consequences that adults have to come to terms with. The time to stop trump and fight him was last November and in November 2026. But those elections are not going to deliver some mythical leader. Walz is a popular governor that will be forced into unpopular decisions over his next budget. We all know the coasties will never vote for a Midwestern socialist. We all know now that Bernie can't win on a national stage.
I don't know how people expect a political party the size of the democratic party to work. If you want to change the system you can just organize your own insurgent party and then affiliate with the national party. Minnesota isn't exceptional for this we're just better at doing things.
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On March 07 2025 15:45 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 13:55 Vivax wrote:
Trump‘s not stupid. Maybe what he does even makes sense from some point of view someone thoroughly fed him while gently stroking his mane.
The problem is that all he does is piss off everyone by not allowing compromise on what he wants and thinks that wouldn‘t affect his own citizens in their day to day life.
If he keeps just using muscle and threats in his negotiations maybe they‘ll start calling out Americans as gringos in places lile Canada. Which would be pretty funny to be honest. Trump thinks a balance of trade deficit is a check that the president sends. He thinks Canada is taking advantage of the US by selling crude to be refined and into higher margin products by the US. He wants to know why the US can’t simply sell the refined oil without buying the crude. A Labrador can understand that the ball cannot be thrown if it is not first dropped. Trump struggles with that.
Too add to this, it is has been a big political issue in Canada for years and the push for more pipelines and Canadian refining, because not only do we sell you our crude and make nothing on that end, but we sell it at huge discounts because we only have the one pipeline heading to you. And you guys take full advantage of our lack of options paying pennies on the dollars.
The Koch brothers were famous for hating the environment but donating large sums of money to any environmental group that was opposing new pipelines or Canadian refining because they made huge bank off our highly discounted oil going only to them.
What Trump has accomplished is restarting the talk of the pipeline west and east (within Canada) so that we can get our oil to the coast and actually get paid the full amount by opening up more customers. There is also talk about refining our oil.
Another thing is that the oil refineries that take our oil need to be specific to deal with our heavy crude, it easy very different from what you get from Texas. So if our pipelines stop flowing south they can't just find another supplier and keep going.
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 07 2025 16:34 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 05:14 KwarK wrote:On March 07 2025 05:00 Mohdoo wrote:
I have 2 general irl friend groups who I discuss politics stuff with. One of them was about 50% people who were already in a post-democrat mindset who held views similar to GH but with a lot less reason to believe those things. The other was entirely democrat. In both groups, all conversations are within a post-democrat future. A couple people think/hope the label democrat persists but want the entire leadership purged and replaced. But none of the people I talk about politics with have any desire for the current form of the Democratic Party to exist and they don’t intend to support the current form.
How about everyone else? How do your friend groups feel about the party? Is this just an Oregon thing? It feels like there is an unspoken but widely felt shrugging at the death of the Pelosi and Schumer party. It’s like it’s failed so thoroughly they don’t even care anymore? Hard to describe. But this is very different from when Trump won the first time. There’s a complete and total loss of faith in the party. It's part of the broader Trump societal sickness. The cultural taboos have been so utterly destroyed that the social contract has been discredited. It doesn't make sense to engage in non violent protest or performative resistance anymore but the Democrats haven't caught up yet. The Democrats represent the older consensus where you might disagree with your neighbour on politics but you could still respect each other, you could still be friends. You'd get a turn in power and they'd get a turn in power but you'd be arguing about tax rates or whatever. Trump destroyed it. It's why we see such support for finding people like Luigi not guilty. Everyone, even those on the right, know that Trump committed his crimes. He's on tape confessing. But he appointed highly partisan judges and those highly partisan judges killed the cases. When that happens the result isn't just that he gets away with criminality, the entire idea of equality under the law is broken. The entire idea that the justice system is nonpartisan and that laws are something that we all agree upon is broken. Society relies upon people being willing to say that "I don't personally agree with X but it's the agreed upon result of a system I believe in and therefore I will accept it". So why not find Luigi not guilty, laws don't matter, justice isn't real. Why not vandalize shit belonging to Trump supporters. Why not try to remove Trump from office, it's certainly worth a shot. Democrats are a legacy of the before times. They believe it's possible to go back. It's not. They're going to say shit like "obviously it's wrong to shoot Nazis, we've all got to get along" or "let's wait for a proper internal police inquiry into why they shot another unarmed man in the back". This was accurate and sad to read.
Pretty much. I wish Kwark was just some entertaining crackpot but he’s depressingly on the money.
It’s not a politics of uplift, it’s a politics of ‘fuck you!’ That’s a difficult development to shove back into Pandora’s Box once it’s out.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 07 2025 20:06 Jockmcplop wrote:
Nice to see that images of the WWII bomber Enola Gay have been flagged for deletion from government databases by the pentagon, as part of Trump's anti-DEI initiative.
TIL nukes are woke.
The laughable part is that this kinda stuff is almost anti-DEI. It’s the kinda thing conservatives point to in that ‘look at x point in history these folks were doing things without all those quotas!’ I mean they’ll also ignore that quotas existed in a very deliberately exclusionary, segregated sense
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On March 07 2025 23:28 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 16:34 decafchicken wrote:On March 07 2025 05:14 KwarK wrote:On March 07 2025 05:00 Mohdoo wrote:
I have 2 general irl friend groups who I discuss politics stuff with. One of them was about 50% people who were already in a post-democrat mindset who held views similar to GH but with a lot less reason to believe those things. The other was entirely democrat. In both groups, all conversations are within a post-democrat future. A couple people think/hope the label democrat persists but want the entire leadership purged and replaced. But none of the people I talk about politics with have any desire for the current form of the Democratic Party to exist and they don’t intend to support the current form.
How about everyone else? How do your friend groups feel about the party? Is this just an Oregon thing? It feels like there is an unspoken but widely felt shrugging at the death of the Pelosi and Schumer party. It’s like it’s failed so thoroughly they don’t even care anymore? Hard to describe. But this is very different from when Trump won the first time. There’s a complete and total loss of faith in the party. It's part of the broader Trump societal sickness. The cultural taboos have been so utterly destroyed that the social contract has been discredited. It doesn't make sense to engage in non violent protest or performative resistance anymore but the Democrats haven't caught up yet. The Democrats represent the older consensus where you might disagree with your neighbour on politics but you could still respect each other, you could still be friends. You'd get a turn in power and they'd get a turn in power but you'd be arguing about tax rates or whatever. Trump destroyed it. It's why we see such support for finding people like Luigi not guilty. Everyone, even those on the right, know that Trump committed his crimes. He's on tape confessing. But he appointed highly partisan judges and those highly partisan judges killed the cases. When that happens the result isn't just that he gets away with criminality, the entire idea of equality under the law is broken. The entire idea that the justice system is nonpartisan and that laws are something that we all agree upon is broken. Society relies upon people being willing to say that "I don't personally agree with X but it's the agreed upon result of a system I believe in and therefore I will accept it". So why not find Luigi not guilty, laws don't matter, justice isn't real. Why not vandalize shit belonging to Trump supporters. Why not try to remove Trump from office, it's certainly worth a shot. Democrats are a legacy of the before times. They believe it's possible to go back. It's not. They're going to say shit like "obviously it's wrong to shoot Nazis, we've all got to get along" or "let's wait for a proper internal police inquiry into why they shot another unarmed man in the back". This was accurate and sad to read. Pretty much. I wish Kwark was just some entertaining crackpot but he’s depressingly on the money. It’s not a politics of uplift, it’s a politics of ‘fuck you!’ That’s a difficult development to shove back into Pandora’s Box once it’s out.
Don't sell Kwark short. Based on my previous experiences with him, he could still be the former as well as the latter
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On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A.
His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal.
if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome.
Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time.
Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win.
One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves.
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On March 07 2025 16:34 decafchicken wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 05:14 KwarK wrote:On March 07 2025 05:00 Mohdoo wrote:
I have 2 general irl friend groups who I discuss politics stuff with. One of them was about 50% people who were already in a post-democrat mindset who held views similar to GH but with a lot less reason to believe those things. The other was entirely democrat. In both groups, all conversations are within a post-democrat future. A couple people think/hope the label democrat persists but want the entire leadership purged and replaced. But none of the people I talk about politics with have any desire for the current form of the Democratic Party to exist and they don’t intend to support the current form.
How about everyone else? How do your friend groups feel about the party? Is this just an Oregon thing? It feels like there is an unspoken but widely felt shrugging at the death of the Pelosi and Schumer party. It’s like it’s failed so thoroughly they don’t even care anymore? Hard to describe. But this is very different from when Trump won the first time. There’s a complete and total loss of faith in the party. It's part of the broader Trump societal sickness. The cultural taboos have been so utterly destroyed that the social contract has been discredited. It doesn't make sense to engage in non violent protest or performative resistance anymore but the Democrats haven't caught up yet. The Democrats represent the older consensus where you might disagree with your neighbour on politics but you could still respect each other, you could still be friends. You'd get a turn in power and they'd get a turn in power but you'd be arguing about tax rates or whatever. Trump destroyed it. It's why we see such support for finding people like Luigi not guilty. Everyone, even those on the right, know that Trump committed his crimes. He's on tape confessing. But he appointed highly partisan judges and those highly partisan judges killed the cases. When that happens the result isn't just that he gets away with criminality, the entire idea of equality under the law is broken. The entire idea that the justice system is nonpartisan and that laws are something that we all agree upon is broken. Society relies upon people being willing to say that "I don't personally agree with X but it's the agreed upon result of a system I believe in and therefore I will accept it". So why not find Luigi not guilty, laws don't matter, justice isn't real. Why not vandalize shit belonging to Trump supporters. Why not try to remove Trump from office, it's certainly worth a shot. Democrats are a legacy of the before times. They believe it's possible to go back. It's not. They're going to say shit like "obviously it's wrong to shoot Nazis, we've all got to get along" or "let's wait for a proper internal police inquiry into why they shot another unarmed man in the back". This was accurate and sad to read.
LibHorizons: There's a good chance police incompetence is the reason Luigi gets a not guilty verdict, but yeah. Trump brought the US's lawlessness home.
On March 07 2025 20:46 KT_Elwood wrote:
The problem is, that Democrats always use the tactics and strategy that would have won them the last attack of Trump.
They are like a bronze league player that no-scout BOs against canonrush next game, even if it's TvT.
Based on the response (or lack thereof) from Dem leaning posters to the best plan currently available to them many of their voters/supporters aren't measurably better. Just grossly out of touch.
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United States42490 Posts
On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves.
They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves.
Why would that happen?
Trump’s consistent miscalculation seems to be in forgetting that other countries have national pride and nationalism too.
By continuously behaving like a contemptuous prick, all that’s doing is building resistance to handing the US anything
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On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US.
They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. A rights deal allows the USA to build a pipeline to the Pacific and start fucking with countries on the other side of the ocean.
On March 08 2025 01:29 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. Why would that happen? Trump’s consistent miscalculation seems to be in forgetting tha t other countries have national pride and nationalism too. By continuously behaving like a contemptuous prick, all that’s doing is building resistance to handing the US anything
Canada's flag has only been around for something like 50 years and was copied off of a hockey team and a minor league baseball team. LOL. I find it deeply ironic how Justin's father warned about nationalism wrecking a country and now his son is falling right into the trap Trump created.
Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up.
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On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US.
Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.
Talk about a self for filling prophecy.
Trump is a fucking moron.
Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump....
your an idiot.
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On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Show nested quote +Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot.
awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions.
Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic.
35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this.
Canada and the USA have not been "best friends" for a very long time. When Canada opted not to help with Iraq the country should've done other things to build its military as a show of friendship to the USA. They could've supported the USA in other ways. They could've exited the Paris Accord in solidarity with the USA. There are many things Canada failed to do to remain "best friends" with the USA. I think Democrats are "best friends" with much of Canada's political leadership. Problem is, that is only half the country.
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United States42490 Posts
On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this.
Given you’re repeatedly using insure when you mean ensure I really don’t think you should be highlighting people’s errors. I notice yours and get annoyed by them but I don’t bother calling them out. But if you’re going to start then I’ll remind you that people in glass houses shouldn’t be dicks.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:29 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. Why would that happen? Trump’s consistent miscalculation seems to be in forgetting tha t other countries have national pride and nationalism too. By continuously behaving like a contemptuous prick, all that’s doing is building resistance to handing the US anything Canada's flag has only been around for something like 50 years and was copied off of a hockey team and a minor league baseball team. LOL. I find it deeply ironic how Justin's father warned about nationalism wrecking a country and now his son is falling right into the trap Trump created. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up.
What the fuck are you talking about?
How old is the state of Israel? Is that not a country either?
The US’ current direction is nationalism 101. It is precipitating a ‘fuck you Yanks backlash.
If your goal is to have Canada hand over its shit to you, it’s almost the worst way to go about it possible l.
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On March 08 2025 01:42 KwarK wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this. Given you’re repeatedly using insure when you mean ensure I really don’t think you should be highlighting people’s errors.
that is a great point. i'd rather be corrected. meh.
On March 08 2025 01:44 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. On March 08 2025 01:29 WombaT wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. Why would that happen? Trump’s consistent miscalculation seems to be in forgetting tha t other countries have national pride and nationalism too. By continuously behaving like a contemptuous prick, all that’s doing is building resistance to handing the US anything Canada's flag has only been around for something like 50 years and was copied off of a hockey team and a minor league baseball team. LOL. I find it deeply ironic how Justin's father warned about nationalism wrecking a country and now his son is falling right into the trap Trump created. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. What the fuck are you talking about? How old is the state of Israel? Is that not a country either? The US’ current direction is nationalism 101. It is precipitating a ‘fuck you Yanks backlash. If your goal is to have Canada hand over its shit to you, it’s almost the worst way to go about it possible l.
The 2nd biggest nation on earth has hardly any military. Defending it is a massive undertaking. Also, Canada has no distinct culture. Pierre Trudeau said this many times. His son, Justin Trudeau describes Canada as a post nation state. I'm merely echoing their own comments. By Pierre Trudeau's own admission Canada is a barely viable country. At the time, 25 million people spread across the 2nd biggest nation in the world.
A protracted trade war with the USA might have Canada go from a being barely viable to not viable at all. Trump says Canada might not be viable as an independent country after the USA buys less of their stuff. He might be right.
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On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this. Canada and the USA have not been "best friends" for a very long time. When Canada opted not to help with Iraq the country should've done other things to build its military as a show of friendship to the USA. They could've supported the USA in other ways. They could've exited the Paris Accord in solidarity with the USA. There are many things Canada failed to do to remain "best friends" with the USA. I think Democrats are "best friends" with much of Canada's political leadership. Problem is, that is only half the country. "We can't be friends because you won't die for my ego".
I stand by my statement.
Your an idiot.
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On March 08 2025 01:47 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this. Canada and the USA have not been "best friends" for a very long time. When Canada opted not to help with Iraq the country should've done other things to build its military as a show of friendship to the USA. They could've supported the USA in other ways. They could've exited the Paris Accord in solidarity with the USA. There are many things Canada failed to do to remain "best friends" with the USA. I think Democrats are "best friends" with much of Canada's political leadership. Problem is, that is only half the country. "We can't be friends because you won't die for my ego". I stand by my statement. Your an idiot.
thanks for the laughs man.
you do not have to "die". you do have to have a military.
Canada wants "best friends" status with the USA. Canadians say they are "best friends" all the time. I'd say before 2003 Canada was the USA's best friend. This is no longer the case and Canada is misplaying their hand due to the delusion there is a best friends thing going on with USA/Canada.
Republicans have got no time for Canada's lack of military even after warnings from Trump 5+ years ago. Canada has chosen to ignore this. Now, Canada is paying the price.
I'm able to be great friends with both Republicans and Democrats. I think most Canadians before 2003 could do that. Since then, Canadians really only get along well with Democrats.
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Northern Ireland24945 Posts
On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this. Canada and the USA have not been "best friends" for a very long time. When Canada opted not to help with Iraq the country should've done other things to build its military as a show of friendship to the USA. They could've supported the USA in other ways. They could've exited the Paris Accord in solidarity with the USA. There are many things Canada failed to do to remain "best friends" with the USA. I think Democrats are "best friends" with much of Canada's political leadership. Problem is, that is only half the country.
Who wanted the Korean War again?
Whose vice-President just this week apparently forgot all the UK support and deaths in Iraq and Afghanistan?
Fuck plenty of us Brits didn’t want us to go to bat, we did. I was protesting the Iraq War in my youth.
But my god, you seriously underestimate how much we hate this America.
I’m not a Keir Starmer fan, I didn’t support the Iraq War. I’m not even a bloody patriot!
But Musk baselessly accusing the former of covering up rape, Vance pretending we didn’t send troops to assist the US, some men and women to their death.
You’ve a President and an administration that are Russian stooges and assets, a state that has assassinated dissidents on British soul.
No, fuck that noise.
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On March 08 2025 02:03 WombaT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 08 2025 01:38 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:33 Gorsameth wrote:On March 08 2025 01:30 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 08 2025 01:26 KwarK wrote:On March 08 2025 00:53 JimmyJRaynor wrote:On March 07 2025 22:49 Billyboy wrote:
This is wildly stupid behavior, and would use it as a counter to anyone who says Trump has Americans interest at heart and is smart. He can't be both. He might be one (but I doubt it), but reality suggests he has only interest in himself, and he is not directly profiting off our oil (yet) and or too dumb to understand that buying the raw material for pennies on the dollar is a bigly amazing stupendous deal for the old U S of A. His goal is to get Alberta to separate from Canada OR to get an ownership slice of Alberta's energy reserves in exchange for zero tariffs. Trump/US Prez will probably agree to protect the Arctic as part of the deal.. Sorta like a Ukraine type deal. if his end game is to get Alberta to separate from Canada his moves make sense. Next, engage in some kind of sovereignty association deal similar to what the Parti Quebecois has outlined for Quebec. Trump is doing the right things to influence this outcome. Ontario is going down hard. Alberta is not going to want to support Ontario forever. Right now, they are willing to do so. That feeling will wane with time. Trudeau and Doug Ford are getting outplayed by Trump. That said, Trump is holding a way better hand so it is not hard for him to win. Trump can make all kinds of mistakes and still win. One way or another, the USA is getting Alberta's oil. Eventually, the USA will own it and all of Alberta's energy reserves. They already had the oil. The only pipeline went to US refineries and the price was low. There’s literally no upside here for the US. They do not own the rights to it or to the reserves. The USA wants to insure Canada/Alberta does not sell to any one else. The US and Canada could have been friends. Canada would have happily kept selling to the US. Instead the US fucks over Canada, and now Canada is looking for other people to sell to.Talk about a self for filling prophecy. Trump is a fucking moron. Canada is the child of 2 divorced parents(US, UK) playing one off of the other. I wonder if Canada will ever grow up. And the US is the child of a divorced parent that is finally growing up. They had a rebellious youth but they are finally ready to follow its parents into a Monarchy, long live king Trump.... your an idiot. awesome stuff man! i think you're doing a bad job controlling your emotions. Canada and the USA have been bickering back and forth for decades. Canada likes to talk about being friends. Canada talks the talk and does not walk the walk. In reality, Canada has failed to secure a real friendship with the USA. Step #1 is building a military to defend the Arctic. 35,000 Americans died in the Korea war. 350 Canadians died. I can list many more military conflicts where Canada has done fuck all. Canadian Liberals constantly take cheap shots at Republicans. Even Liberal leaders do this. Canada and the USA have not been "best friends" for a very long time. When Canada opted not to help with Iraq the country should've done other things to build its military as a show of friendship to the USA. They could've supported the USA in other ways. They could've exited the Paris Accord in solidarity with the USA. There are many things Canada failed to do to remain "best friends" with the USA. I think Democrats are "best friends" with much of Canada's political leadership. Problem is, that is only half the country. Who wanted the Korean War again?
in 1950 North Korea crossed the 38th parallel. So, I'd say the North Koreans wanted the war. Both the USA and Canada helped defend South Korea. The USA contributed 1000X as much as Canada though.
Since WW2 Canada has slowly lowered the fulfillment of its military obligations. the 1950 Korean war was the start of that decline.
This angers Republicans and makes them lose respect for Canada.
And again, Canadians have lost the ability to be best friends with Republicans. We're seeing that play out on the world stage.
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