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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16715 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-20 18:53:08
January 20 2025 18:52 GMT
#93981
In the past, Trump compared himself to Rand created hero Howard Roark.
After hearing that inauguration speech I have a question.
Who does this guy think he is? John Galt?
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11528 Posts
January 20 2025 19:11 GMT
#93982
On January 21 2025 03:01 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 02:52 Simberto wrote:
On January 21 2025 02:49 Sermokala wrote:
If accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt then what was Nixon guilty of?


I don't think this is the best argument you could make. Everyone knows what Nixon was guilty of.

This is the best argument to make. If they want to argue that acepting the pardons makes the people Biden guilty of some imagined crime they have to admit that Nixon did the thing we all know hes guilty of. With how detached conservatives are these days to reality I don't think they could admit that nixon did anything wrong.


Ah, i wasn't aware that modern conservatives actually claim Nixon did nothing wrong. But to be fair, most of my knowledge about Nixon is from Futurama.
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1064 Posts
January 20 2025 19:37 GMT
#93983
On January 21 2025 04:11 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 03:01 Sermokala wrote:
On January 21 2025 02:52 Simberto wrote:
On January 21 2025 02:49 Sermokala wrote:
If accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt then what was Nixon guilty of?


I don't think this is the best argument you could make. Everyone knows what Nixon was guilty of.

This is the best argument to make. If they want to argue that acepting the pardons makes the people Biden guilty of some imagined crime they have to admit that Nixon did the thing we all know hes guilty of. With how detached conservatives are these days to reality I don't think they could admit that nixon did anything wrong.


Ah, i wasn't aware that modern conservatives actually claim Nixon did nothing wrong. But to be fair, most of my knowledge about Nixon is from Futurama.

I mean current republicans think Matt Gaetz did nothing wrong, so as long as they wearing red not much matters.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
January 20 2025 19:39 GMT
#93984
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9122 Posts
January 20 2025 20:03 GMT
#93985
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?
Timebon3s
Profile Joined May 2018
Norway699 Posts
January 20 2025 20:04 GMT
#93986
What if the earth feels flat and 6000 years old?
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44388 Posts
January 20 2025 20:13 GMT
#93987
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?


My guess is that Trump is defining "women" just as "cis-women" in that phrase, and I'm guessing that he believes that trans-women and non-binary people are examples of "gender extremism". Don't know for sure, though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Luolis
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
Finland7111 Posts
January 20 2025 20:22 GMT
#93988
On January 21 2025 05:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?


My guess is that Trump is defining "women" just as "cis-women" in that phrase, and I'm guessing that he believes that trans-women and non-binary people are examples of "gender extremism". Don't know for sure, though.

Of course, it's just another way to get rid of trans people (trans women really, Trump and republicans dont even know trans men exist). The only goals for these peoples' policies are hurting someone else or making more money for themselves and their friends.
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Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1064 Posts
January 20 2025 20:24 GMT
#93989
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?

People are upset about the Trans women competing in Women's sports. That part of it at any rate has pretty high levels of support.
Magic Powers
Profile Joined April 2012
Austria4184 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-20 20:27:44
January 20 2025 20:27 GMT
#93990
On January 21 2025 05:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?


My guess is that Trump is defining "women" just as "cis-women" in that phrase, and I'm guessing that he believes that trans-women and non-binary people are examples of "gender extremism". Don't know for sure, though.


This article lists Trump's promises regarding transgender rights. It's effectively a ban on trans people, as it simply disregards their existence point for point.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/261221/trump-vows-executive-action-on-day-1-to-end-transgender-lunacy
If you want to do the right thing, 80% of your job is done if you don't do the wrong thing.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42803 Posts
January 20 2025 20:38 GMT
#93991
On January 21 2025 05:24 Billyboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?

People are upset about the Trans women competing in Women's sports. That part of it at any rate has pretty high levels of support.

Define women's sports. Because women's sports has a long history of not letting cis women compete too. The administrators of women's sporting competitions are extremely unclear on what exactly a woman is.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
1064 Posts
January 20 2025 20:45 GMT
#93992
On January 21 2025 05:38 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:24 Billyboy wrote:
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?

People are upset about the Trans women competing in Women's sports. That part of it at any rate has pretty high levels of support.

Define women's sports. Because women's sports has a long history of not letting cis women compete too. The administrators of women's sporting competitions are extremely unclear on what exactly a woman is.

All of them from all levels. But if he goes through with this new rule it is going to open a different kettle of worms.
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23251 Posts
January 20 2025 20:49 GMT
#93993
On January 21 2025 05:27 Magic Powers wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?


My guess is that Trump is defining "women" just as "cis-women" in that phrase, and I'm guessing that he believes that trans-women and non-binary people are examples of "gender extremism". Don't know for sure, though.


This article lists Trump's promises regarding transgender rights. It's effectively a ban on trans people, as it simply disregards their existence point for point.

https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/261221/trump-vows-executive-action-on-day-1-to-end-transgender-lunacy

We're going full on "the rules are what we make of them" day 1 it seems.

Dems/Libs never drew any clear lines, so this is going to be bad, very bad.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5580 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-20 21:09:10
January 20 2025 20:55 GMT
#93994
https://www.reddit.com/r/interestingasfuck/comments/1i6026n/elon_musk_sieg_heiling_during_his_speech/

Elon doing a Nazi salute at the inauguration (?).
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42803 Posts
January 20 2025 21:00 GMT
#93995
Not in any way surprising.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11528 Posts
January 20 2025 21:09 GMT
#93996
On January 21 2025 05:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2025 05:03 Dan HH wrote:
On January 21 2025 04:39 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Donald Trump's day one priorities include him trying to use executive orders to override scientific fact:
"One order would declare that the federal government would recognize only two immutable sexes: male and female. The definition will be based on whether people are born with eggs or sperm, rather than on their chromosomes. The change is being pitched as a way to protect women from “gender extremism.” Conservative groups such as the American Family Association are praising the change as one that acknowledges the truth. But experts including the American Medical Association and American Psychiatric Association hold that gender is a spectrum, not a binary structure consisting only of males and females."
https://apnews.com/article/trump-sex-gender-transgender-dei-order-245350b97e0c4dcc221fefc49ef44699

What a moron. Tomorrow is he planning on signing executive orders to "decide" that the Earth is flat and only 6,000 years old? lmao.

What are these gender extremist acts committed on women?


My guess is that Trump is defining "women" just as "cis-women" in that phrase, and I'm guessing that he believes that trans-women and non-binary people are examples of "gender extremism". Don't know for sure, though.


Probably all of the attacks on cis women by trans women in bathrooms. They happen all over the place, basically constantly. Can't go a minute without it.

And eventually they are going to find one event of that. Or make one up.

Also, yeah. Nazi salute at the inauguration...I wonder how that is going to be explained away.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5580 Posts
January 20 2025 21:13 GMT
#93997
I got banned for saying they need to get a Luigi treatment. ;-)
RenSC2
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States1060 Posts
January 20 2025 21:16 GMT
#93998
Wow, that's not just an unfortunate freeze frame. WTF. I know Elon has been drinking the crazy juice for awhile now, but he just threw away the dog whistle and came straight out. I wonder what Ivanka and Jared think of that one. Maybe we'll see an ugly split between Trump and Musk.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7242 Posts
Last Edited: 2025-01-20 21:22:51
January 20 2025 21:18 GMT
#93999
Lmao with Musk being the CEO of Tesla I still dont see his game here. The only two things I can think of are him trying to lobby for deregulation and adoption of self driving technology or actively trying to kill EV tax credits for other OEMs because Tesla hit their limit long ago. Maybe hes ok with Tesla being more niche and doesnt want competition? This is bizarre too because the real way fof EVs to take off is better infrastructure across the country which likely wouldnt be built without more adopters. Its why i thought they released their patents a few years back.


It sure doesnt seem he cares about climate change anymore if he ever did at all.


I am just lost with this.
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42803 Posts
January 20 2025 21:19 GMT
#94000
On January 21 2025 06:13 maybenexttime wrote:
I got banned for saying they need to get a Luigi treatment. ;-)

Not everyone is on board with the spicy new world we live in.
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