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Sadist
United States7323 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23643 Posts
On January 20 2025 18:41 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Today, the United States celebrates Martin Luther King Jr. Day and the civil rights movement by <checks notes> inaugurating a man who first became politically popular for his thinly-veiled racist belief that Black people should not be allowed to be president. Seems pretty fitting for the US actually. He's replacing a guy that was a key supporter for locking up millions of Black men and pines for the days when he hung out with segregationists. | ||
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Sadist
United States7323 Posts
On January 21 2025 01:43 GreenHorizons wrote: Seems pretty fitting for the US actually. He's replacing a guy that was a key supporter for locking up millions of Black men and pines for the days when he hung out with segregationists. I dont want to try to argue about policies from the 80s and 90s (corrections) and crack epidemic but a lot of black and brown folks supported these policies too at the time. You trying to paint a picture of oppression out of this ignores some of the reality. Whether the policy turned out good or not is a separate issue but I really think you are trying to paint a broad brush here. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11749 Posts
On January 21 2025 00:42 Sadist wrote: The hyperbole from the republicans here. They are just mad. Dont even know why they are mad but they just are. Being angry is a core part of their identity. That is why they elected Trump. Now that he won, they don't know what to do with that anger, because as it turns out, it doesn't just go away from that. | ||
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oBlade
United States5887 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GhwEg0PXEAAPsaY.jpg) Hard to call this one anything but suspicious, or sheer paranoia. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:20 oBlade wrote: we're dealing with Trump and vindictive Republicans.Did Blumpf ever vow, discuss, mention, hint or allude to any crimes or prosecutions of Joe's brothers and sisters and their spouses...? + Show Spoiler + Hard to call this one anything but suspicious, or sheer paranoia. hardly paranoia. They have shown to be this petty when they went after Hunter. You don't like it? Well F U. Democrats tried the high road, voters said "hell no". This is what you get. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45278 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:20 oBlade wrote: Did Blumpf ever vow, discuss, mention, hint or allude to any crimes or prosecutions of Joe's brothers and sisters and their spouses...? + Show Spoiler + Hard to call this one anything but suspicious, or sheer paranoia. How many times do we have to repeat ourselves? Trump will go after anyone, including family members of those who he perceives to be against him. For example, Biden should preemptively pardon his whole family, all of the Obamas, all of the Harrises, and all of the Pelosis, because Trump is actually that big of a piece of shit. | ||
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Timebon3s
Norway764 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23643 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:28 Timebon3s wrote: Haha look at Kamala seething with rage. Biden looks happy though. managed to get a standing ovation out of them both... Clowns, all of them clowns... | ||
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oBlade
United States5887 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:25 Gorsameth wrote: we're dealing with Trump and vindictive Republicans. hardly paranoia. They have shown to be this petty when they went after Hunter. You don't like it? Well F U. Democrats tried the high road, voters said "hell no". This is what you get. Are you saying there was no reason to even investigate Hunter at all, or that vice presidents' family gets a pass? | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22092 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:42 oBlade wrote: you know the answer to this, we've been over it a 100 times.Are you saying there was no reason to even investigate Hunter at all, or that vice presidents' family gets a pass? | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11749 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:49 Sermokala wrote: If accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt then what was Nixon guilty of? I don't think this is the best argument you could make. Everyone knows what Nixon was guilty of. | ||
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oBlade
United States5887 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:43 Gorsameth wrote: you know the answer to this, we've been over it a 100 times. I have no idea who you are or what you think, my best guess is the answer has to be one of those two. I don't see other explanations. If your answer is the first, I was going to ask why Hunter of all people "they" tried to take revenge on, and absolutely everyone else has avoided the splash damage. If your answer were the latter I'd say okay then we agree everyone should have let Blumpf's family be, especially Don Jr. who got dragged through hell. If your answer doesn't fit either those I wanted to know what new heretofore unseen justification I haven't run into yet. Here's what I think: He didn't pay taxes, he got extremely lucrative jobs being an empty suit doing nothing in companies in industries he had no expertise in coincidentally when his father the VP was working on things in those countries, he made deals equally amounting to millions, sold dogshit paintings for millions (all of this points to run of the mill influence peddling), and there's a laptop full of solicitation and drug crimes which justifiably creates a gun crime (Blumpf lost his conceal carry license for paperwork felony convictions for reference). I don't think investigation particularly crosses the line in a rule of law country. I don't see the slightest probable cause or suspicion in Kamala Harris, Chelsea Clinton, Doug Emhoff, Michelle Obama. Not the appearance of impropriety. If Doug Emhoff showed up with Hunter's resume and laptop he might get investigated, like Hunter was charged and convicted under a Democrat administration. Hard to blame this on Republicans. It's a very restrained capriciousness, isn't it, that is stopping them from persecuting any other innocent families besides the smartest guy Joe knows. If you didn't bother to stop at 99 you can do me a solid and go over it one more time. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14104 Posts
On January 21 2025 02:52 Simberto wrote: I don't think this is the best argument you could make. Everyone knows what Nixon was guilty of. This is the best argument to make. If they want to argue that acepting the pardons makes the people Biden guilty of some imagined crime they have to admit that Nixon did the thing we all know hes guilty of. With how detached conservatives are these days to reality I don't think they could admit that nixon did anything wrong. Here's what I think: He didn't pay taxes, he got extremely lucrative jobs being an empty suit doing nothing in companies in industries he had no expertise in coincidentally when his father the VP was working on things in those countries, he made deals equally amounting to millions, sold dogshit paintings for millions (all of this points to run of the mill influence peddling), and there's a laptop full of solicitation and drug crimes which justifiably creates a gun crime (Blumpf lost his conceal carry license for paperwork felony convictions for reference). I don't think investigation particularly crosses the line in a rule of law country. The jokes about this write themselves. if it wasn't posted right above me and had a childish nickname for trump on it you would be convinced it was about one of trumps children. | ||
KwarK
United States43579 Posts
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KwarK
United States43579 Posts
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oBlade
United States5887 Posts
On January 21 2025 03:01 Sermokala wrote: This is the best argument to make. If they want to argue that acepting the pardons makes the people Biden guilty of some imagined crime they have to admit that Nixon did the thing we all know hes guilty of. With how detached conservatives are these days to reality I don't think they could admit that nixon did anything wrong. The jokes about this write themselves. if it wasn't posted right above me and had a childish nickname for trump on it you would be convinced it was about one of trumps children. Do you know any of the background of any of these situations, and ability to differentiate Ivanka from Hunter, or are you just telling me it's a given wealthy children of wealthy people are all criminals and it's just a matter of who gets locked up and who doesn't? | ||
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Billyboy
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9770 Posts
On January 21 2025 03:14 Billyboy wrote: Trump is sure speed running breaking his promises. No tariffs on day one and mass deportations "delayed". At least he got his and his associates crypto up and running. No need to slow down his personal gain, it is not like that is actually the only reason he is doing any of this... He solved that most pressing of Republican problems, the continued existence of trans people. From now on, when it comes to trans people, the official US government position is to simply pretend they don't exist! Common sense indeed. | ||
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