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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18820 Posts
July 09 2018 20:53 GMT
#8641
Tonight's the night.....

Poll: Who will receive Trump's Supreme Court nomination?

(Vote): Barrett
(Vote): Kethledge
(Vote): Hardiman
(Vote): Kavanaugh


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On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 21:23:22
July 09 2018 21:17 GMT
#8642
I'd say Barrett has the highest chance bc it has the shock value and appeals to his base. However, word is his interview with her didn't go well. Also, the lack of experience will be a tough issue to sell plus the anti-Roe part of her will turn off some Republicans. Kavanaugh should be the pick, but I cant help but feel Trump will be scared off by the Bush connections. Kethledge and Hardiman are the compromise picks which I could see happening.

I just hope it isn't Barret personally.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 09 2018 21:20 GMT
#8643
Barrett is his choice because he can’t resist the urge to call the Democrats sexist hypocrites because he appointed a woman. I would also say she is the least likely to get confirmed, but I wouldn’t bet money on it.
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screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 21:34:57
July 09 2018 21:33 GMT
#8644
I figure Trump usually picks the least qualified, most inexperienced people and wants to milk the fame the longest, so... Barrett is my vote.


On the topic of "this week in ruthless capitalism", surprised no one posted this article. Good thing Russia was able to act as a check and balance heh.

+ Show Spoiler +



A resolution to encourage breast-feeding was expected to be approved quickly and easily by the hundreds of government delegates who gathered this spring in Geneva for the United Nations-affiliated World Health Assembly.
Based on decades of research, the resolution says that mother’s milk is healthiest for children and countries should strive to limit the inaccurate or misleading marketing of breast milk substitutes.

Then the United States delegation, embracing the interests of infant formula manufacturers, upended the deliberations.
American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs.
The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid. The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.

The showdown over the issue was recounted by more than a dozen participants from several countries, many of whom requested anonymity because they feared retaliation from the United States.
Health advocates scrambled to find another sponsor for the resolution, but at least a dozen countries, most of them poor nations in Africa and Latin America, backed off, citing fears of retaliation, according to officials from Uruguay, Mexico and the United States.

“What happened was tantamount to blackmail, with the U.S. holding the world hostage and trying to overturn nearly 40 years of consensus on the best way to protect infant and young child health,” she said.
In the end, the Americans’ efforts were mostly unsuccessful. It was the Russians who ultimately stepped in to introduce the measure — and the Americans did not threaten them.

During the deliberations, some American delegates even suggested the United States might cut its contribution to the W.H.O., several negotiators said. Washington is the single largest contributor to the health organization, providing $845 million, or roughly 15 percent of its budget, last year.
The confrontation was the latest example of the Trump administration siding with corporate interests on numerous public health and environmental issues.

In talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Americans have been pushing for language that would limit the ability of Canada, Mexico and the United States to put warning labels on junk food and sugary beverages, according to a draft of the proposal reviewed by The New York Times.

During the same Geneva meeting where the breast-feeding resolution was debated, the United States succeeded in removing statements supporting soda taxes from a document that advises countries grappling with soaring rates of obesity.

The Americans also sought, unsuccessfully, to thwart a W.H.O. effort aimed at helping poor countries obtain access to lifesaving medicines. Washington, supporting the pharmaceutical industry, has long resisted calls to modify patent laws as a way of increasing drug availability in the developing world, but health advocates say the Trump administration has ratcheted up its opposition to such efforts.

A Russian delegate said the decision to introduce the breast-feeding resolution was a matter of principle.
“We’re not trying to be a hero here, but we feel that it is wrong when a big country tries to push around some very small countries, especially on an issue that is really important for the rest of the world,” said the delegate, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

He said the United States did not directly pressure Moscow to back away from the measure. Nevertheless, the American delegation sought to wear down the other participants through procedural maneuvers in a series of meetings that stretched on for two days, an unexpectedly long period.

In the end, the United States was largely unsuccessful. The final resolution preserved most of the original wording, though American negotiators did get language removed that called on the W.H.O. to provide technical support to member states seeking to halt “inappropriate promotion of foods for infants and young children.”

The United States also insisted that the words “evidence-based” accompany references to long-established initiatives that promote breast-feeding, which critics described as a ploy that could be used to undermine programs that provide parents with feeding advice and support.

Elisabeth Sterken, director of the Infant Feeding Action Coalition in Canada, said four decades of research have established the importance of breast milk, which provides essential nutrients as well as hormones and antibodies that protect newborns against infectious disease.

A 2016 study in The Lancet found that universal breast-feeding would prevent 800,000 child deaths a year across the globe and yield $300 billion in savings from reduced health care costs and improved economic outcomes for those reared on breast milk.

Scientists are loath to carry out double-blind studies that would provide one group with breast milk and another with breast milk substitutes. “This kind of ‘evidence-based’ research would be ethically and morally unacceptable,” Ms. Sterken said.

Abbott Laboratories, the Chicago-based company that is one of the biggest players in the $70 billion baby food market, declined to comment.

Nestlé, the Switzerland-based food giant with significant operations in the United States, sought to distance itself from the threats against Ecuador and said the company would continue to support the international code on the marketing of breast milk substitutes, which calls on governments to regulate the inappropriate promotion of such products and to encourage breast-feeding.

In addition to the trade threats, Todd C. Chapman, the United States ambassador to Ecuador, suggested in meetings with officials in Quito, the Ecuadorean capital, that the Trump administration might also retaliate by withdrawing the military assistance it has been providing in northern Ecuador, a region wracked by violence spilling across the border from Colombia, according to an Ecuadorean government official who took part in the meeting.

The United States Embassy in Quito declined to make Mr. Chapman available for an interview.
“We were shocked because we didn’t understand how such a small matter like breast-feeding could provoke such a dramatic response,” said the Ecuadorean official, who asked not to be identified because she was afraid of losing her job.


www.nytimes.com

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Mercy13
Profile Joined January 2011
United States718 Posts
July 09 2018 21:35 GMT
#8645
For what it's worth, Barrett was my professor for Fed. Courts and as far as I could tell she never allowed her personal religious or political beliefs to impact her teaching. I'm sure her rulings would piss me off, but she seemed like a decent person which might be the best we can hope for these days.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
July 09 2018 21:37 GMT
#8646
On July 10 2018 06:35 Mercy13 wrote:
For what it's worth, Barrett was my professor for Fed. Courts and as far as I could tell she never allowed her personal religious or political beliefs to impact her teaching. I'm sure her rulings would piss me off, but she seemed like a decent person which might be the best we can hope for these days.


That might explain why Trump's interview with her didn't go well. We'll see.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 09 2018 21:41 GMT
#8647
On July 10 2018 06:33 screamingpalm wrote:
I figure Trump usually picks the least qualified, most inexperienced people and wants to milk the fame the longest, so... Barrett is my vote.


On the topic of "this week in ruthless capitalism", surprised no one posted this article. Good thing Russia was able to act as a check and balance heh.

+ Show Spoiler +



A resolution to encourage breast-feeding was expected to be approved quickly and easily by the hundreds of government delegates who gathered this spring in Geneva for the United Nations-affiliated World Health Assembly.
Based on decades of research, the resolution says that mother’s milk is healthiest for children and countries should strive to limit the inaccurate or misleading marketing of breast milk substitutes.

Then the United States delegation, embracing the interests of infant formula manufacturers, upended the deliberations.
American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs.
The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid. The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.

The showdown over the issue was recounted by more than a dozen participants from several countries, many of whom requested anonymity because they feared retaliation from the United States.
Health advocates scrambled to find another sponsor for the resolution, but at least a dozen countries, most of them poor nations in Africa and Latin America, backed off, citing fears of retaliation, according to officials from Uruguay, Mexico and the United States.

“What happened was tantamount to blackmail, with the U.S. holding the world hostage and trying to overturn nearly 40 years of consensus on the best way to protect infant and young child health,” she said.
In the end, the Americans’ efforts were mostly unsuccessful. It was the Russians who ultimately stepped in to introduce the measure — and the Americans did not threaten them.

During the deliberations, some American delegates even suggested the United States might cut its contribution to the W.H.O., several negotiators said. Washington is the single largest contributor to the health organization, providing $845 million, or roughly 15 percent of its budget, last year.
The confrontation was the latest example of the Trump administration siding with corporate interests on numerous public health and environmental issues.

In talks to renegotiate the North American Free Trade Agreement, the Americans have been pushing for language that would limit the ability of Canada, Mexico and the United States to put warning labels on junk food and sugary beverages, according to a draft of the proposal reviewed by The New York Times.

During the same Geneva meeting where the breast-feeding resolution was debated, the United States succeeded in removing statements supporting soda taxes from a document that advises countries grappling with soaring rates of obesity.

The Americans also sought, unsuccessfully, to thwart a W.H.O. effort aimed at helping poor countries obtain access to lifesaving medicines. Washington, supporting the pharmaceutical industry, has long resisted calls to modify patent laws as a way of increasing drug availability in the developing world, but health advocates say the Trump administration has ratcheted up its opposition to such efforts.

A Russian delegate said the decision to introduce the breast-feeding resolution was a matter of principle.
“We’re not trying to be a hero here, but we feel that it is wrong when a big country tries to push around some very small countries, especially on an issue that is really important for the rest of the world,” said the delegate, who asked not to be identified because he was not authorized to speak to the media.

He said the United States did not directly pressure Moscow to back away from the measure. Nevertheless, the American delegation sought to wear down the other participants through procedural maneuvers in a series of meetings that stretched on for two days, an unexpectedly long period.

In the end, the United States was largely unsuccessful. The final resolution preserved most of the original wording, though American negotiators did get language removed that called on the W.H.O. to provide technical support to member states seeking to halt “inappropriate promotion of foods for infants and young children.”

The United States also insisted that the words “evidence-based” accompany references to long-established initiatives that promote breast-feeding, which critics described as a ploy that could be used to undermine programs that provide parents with feeding advice and support.

Elisabeth Sterken, director of the Infant Feeding Action Coalition in Canada, said four decades of research have established the importance of breast milk, which provides essential nutrients as well as hormones and antibodies that protect newborns against infectious disease.

A 2016 study in The Lancet found that universal breast-feeding would prevent 800,000 child deaths a year across the globe and yield $300 billion in savings from reduced health care costs and improved economic outcomes for those reared on breast milk.

Scientists are loath to carry out double-blind studies that would provide one group with breast milk and another with breast milk substitutes. “This kind of ‘evidence-based’ research would be ethically and morally unacceptable,” Ms. Sterken said.

Abbott Laboratories, the Chicago-based company that is one of the biggest players in the $70 billion baby food market, declined to comment.

Nestlé, the Switzerland-based food giant with significant operations in the United States, sought to distance itself from the threats against Ecuador and said the company would continue to support the international code on the marketing of breast milk substitutes, which calls on governments to regulate the inappropriate promotion of such products and to encourage breast-feeding.

In addition to the trade threats, Todd C. Chapman, the United States ambassador to Ecuador, suggested in meetings with officials in Quito, the Ecuadorean capital, that the Trump administration might also retaliate by withdrawing the military assistance it has been providing in northern Ecuador, a region wracked by violence spilling across the border from Colombia, according to an Ecuadorean government official who took part in the meeting.

The United States Embassy in Quito declined to make Mr. Chapman available for an interview.
“We were shocked because we didn’t understand how such a small matter like breast-feeding could provoke such a dramatic response,” said the Ecuadorean official, who asked not to be identified because she was afraid of losing her job.


www.nytimes.com


The only good part of that bullshit was the Amazing conservative think peices explaining why Trump’s opinion on breastfeeding matter.

Other than that, it’s an embarrassment that we continue to bow to the Nestle, maybe the least ethical company in the US.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
July 09 2018 21:45 GMT
#8648
We're so fucking corrupt we are threatening countries that dare to buck the Corporate lobbying, and paid PR. The world needs to slap tariffs, boycott events and meetings, hell even withdraw Ambassadors. treat us like the Western version of North Korea.

A resolution to encourage breast-feeding was expected to be approved quickly and easily by the hundreds of government delegates who gathered this spring in Geneva for the United Nations-affiliated World Health Assembly.

Based on decades of research, the resolution says that mother’s milk is healthiest for children and countries should strive to limit the inaccurate or misleading marketing of breast milk substitutes.

Then the United States delegation, embracing the interests of infant formula manufacturers, upended the deliberations.

American officials sought to water down the resolution by removing language that called on governments to “protect, promote and support breast-feeding” and another passage that called on policymakers to restrict the promotion of food products that many experts say can have deleterious effects on young children.

When that failed, they turned to threats, according to diplomats and government officials who took part in the discussions. Ecuador, which had planned to introduce the measure, was the first to find itself in the cross hairs.

The Americans were blunt: If Ecuador refused to drop the resolution, Washington would unleash punishing trade measures and withdraw crucial military aid. The Ecuadorean government quickly acquiesced.


The showdown over the issue was recounted by more than a dozen participants from several countries, many of whom requested anonymity because they feared retaliation from the United States.

Health advocates scrambled to find another sponsor for the resolution, but at least a dozen countries, most of them poor nations in Africa and Latin America, backed off, citing fears of retaliation, according to officials from Uruguay, Mexico and the United States.

“We were astonished, appalled and also saddened,” said Patti Rundall, the policy director of the British advocacy group Baby Milk Action, who has attended meetings of the assembly, the decision-making body of the World Health Organization, since the late 1980s.

“What happened was tantamount to blackmail, with the U.S. holding the world hostage and trying to overturn nearly 40 years of consensus on the best way to protect infant and young child health,” she said.

In the end, the Americans’ efforts were mostly unsuccessful. It was the Russians who ultimately stepped in to introduce the measure — and the Americans did not threaten them.

The State Department declined to respond to questions, saying it could not discuss private diplomatic conversations. The Department of Health and Human Services, the lead agency in the effort to modify the resolution, explained the decision to contest the resolution’s wording but said H.H.S. was not involved in threatening Ecuador.

“The resolution as originally drafted placed unnecessary hurdles for mothers seeking to provide nutrition to their children,” an H.H.S. spokesman said in an email. “We recognize not all women are able to breast-feed for a variety of reasons. These women should have the choice and access to alternatives for the health of their babies, and not be stigmatized for the ways in which they are able to do so.” The spokesman asked to remain anonymous in order to speak more freely.

Although lobbyists from the baby food industry attended the meetings in Geneva, health advocates said they saw no direct evidence that they played a role in Washington’s strong-arm tactics. The $70 billion industry, which is dominated by a handful of American and European companies, has seen sales flatten in wealthy countries in recent years, as more women embrace breast-feeding. Over all, global sales are expected to rise by 4 percent in 2018, according to Euromonitor, with most of that growth occurring in developing nations.

The intensity of the administration’s opposition to the breast-feeding resolution stunned public health officials and foreign diplomats, who described it as a marked contrast to the Obama administration, which largely supported W.H.O.’s longstanding policy of encouraging breast-feeding.


Source
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a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
July 09 2018 21:49 GMT
#8649
You guys are so slow, I posted that like 10 pages ago.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 09 2018 21:52 GMT
#8650
On July 10 2018 06:35 Mercy13 wrote:
For what it's worth, Barrett was my professor for Fed. Courts and as far as I could tell she never allowed her personal religious or political beliefs to impact her teaching. I'm sure her rulings would piss me off, but she seemed like a decent person which might be the best we can hope for these days.

Most law professors are like that in the classroom. It's very different from the undergraduate environment.
screamingpalm
Profile Joined October 2011
United States1527 Posts
July 09 2018 21:54 GMT
#8651
On July 10 2018 06:49 a_flayer wrote:
You guys are so slow, I posted that like 10 pages ago.


Really? Sheesh I thought I had been doing well in keeping up on this thread too. My apologies.
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Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 09 2018 21:54 GMT
#8652
On July 10 2018 06:49 a_flayer wrote:
You guys are so slow, I posted that like 10 pages ago.

Most people were to busy arguing about how stupid the over priced fighter jet that we don't need was and why it was stupid. And claiming that the US was somehow ahead of Britain in radar tech in the ramp up to WW2.
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TL+ Member
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 09 2018 22:20 GMT
#8653
My guess is that the pick will be Kavanaugh. Trump and the GOP are going to want to get this done quickly. Kavanaugh is probably the best pick in this regard.
Introvert
Profile Joined April 2011
United States4682 Posts
July 09 2018 22:25 GMT
#8654
On July 10 2018 07:20 xDaunt wrote:
My guess is that the pick will be Kavanaugh. Trump and the GOP are going to want to get this done quickly. Kavanaugh is probably the best pick in this regard.


Kethledge was prob the most confirmable, but a couple of odd, much maligned hit pieces came out like 12 hours later so that was moved off the table.
"It is therefore only at the birth of a society that one can be completely logical in the laws. When you see a people enjoying this advantage, do not hasten to conclude that it is wise; think rather that it is young." -Alexis de Tocqueville
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22999 Posts
July 09 2018 22:35 GMT
#8655
On July 10 2018 06:54 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2018 06:49 a_flayer wrote:
You guys are so slow, I posted that like 10 pages ago.

Most people were to busy arguing about how stupid the over priced fighter jet that we don't need was and why it was stupid. And claiming that the US was somehow ahead of Britain in radar tech in the ramp up to WW2.


Well sorta, it was mostly me trying to explain that the stuff people were repeating about it's capabilities wasn't true, it's far worse than they thought.

I like that it's becoming more clear how there are many problems stem out of capitalism itself not the specific actors within it.
It's sad how we'll let these corps blatantly make our lives worse to secure more profits and we don't even blink.

Society should have burned down all the H&R Blocks a decade ago for example.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
July 09 2018 22:35 GMT
#8656
I'm feeling Kavanaugh. Barrett is my runner up, for the points made above - woman makes her "unconventional" which is in her favor, but Trump not liking her during the interview hurts her.
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KR_4EVR
Profile Joined July 2017
316 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 22:57:08
July 09 2018 22:56 GMT
#8657
On July 10 2018 06:37 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2018 06:35 Mercy13 wrote:
For what it's worth, Barrett was my professor for Fed. Courts and as far as I could tell she never allowed her personal religious or political beliefs to impact her teaching. I'm sure her rulings would piss me off, but she seemed like a decent person which might be the best we can hope for these days.


That might explain why Trump's interview with her didn't go well. We'll see.


Absolutely ridiculous. The only criterion a S.C. judge needs is sole allegiance and adherence to the Constitution. The only possible other issue is Federal/court balance, but that issue passed the tipping point decades ago.

Now, the half of society that prefers to control others (kill babies, take others' guns away, scream "you are haters!") rather than exercise self control (like, abstinence, self-defense, helping people in natural disasters) irresponsibly elects Supreme Court justices who do NOT listen to the original meaning of the constitution. THAT and only THAT is the reason why we have a political issue in the Supreme court at all.

Oh. Did I mention Deomcrats were the main party to brutalize Native Americans, treat Black-skin-colored people as dirt, establish Jim crow laws, fight to return Jewish imigrants to Germany in WWII, steal land from Mexico, force sterilization on mentally disabled people, and profit from modernized inner-city plantations?

But they just blame it on others. Their memory is too short.

Oh and BTW it was Democrats who opposed the first Black man to be an the Supreme Court.
And it was Democrtats who changed the election of judges from 3/5 to 1/2 majority.

Oh. But , like, "LOVE WINS", right? No. Such 'love' is worthless and will be deemed at the end of time as such.

That's why it is written, "You decorate the graves of the prophets and say, 'If we had lived in those days, we wouldn't have done THAT!'. Therefore this generation will be guilty of it all."

Go ahead and mourn slavery while profiting from cheap illegal immigrant labour. Go ahead and mourn the plight of women while you empower countires to kill their unborn daughters. And go ahead and think that you're so righteous while you do it all, just because you are angry.

Oh. I forgot to mention. It was leftist media that covered up the reality of mass starvation in the early days of communist Russia. But look at them today? They aren't even loyal to foreign countires anymore!

The only people opposing Barrett are 1) people who have someone better in mind and 2) idiots who hate her for no other reason than the her Catholic faith persuation.

Go ahead and believe in the "salvation" that will never come. Humans are so virtuous their cause is so 'just'. Or maybe, wake up and realize that there are only two parties in the USA. The party of selfishness (GOP) and the party of pure evil (DRC).
Et tu Brute ?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 23:02:34
July 09 2018 23:00 GMT
#8658
Tell us more about how the Democrats supported slavery and abused the Native Americans. None of us passed 10 grade US history and we need this inside knowledge.

Oh, and the Soviet Union’s “collective farming” has never been documented anywhere! Please tell us more.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-07-09 23:05:54
July 09 2018 23:03 GMT
#8659
--- Nuked ---
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States22999 Posts
July 09 2018 23:05 GMT
#8660
On July 10 2018 08:00 Plansix wrote:
Tell us more about how the Democrats supported slavery and abused the Native Americans. None of us passed 10 grade US history and we need this inside knowledge.


Well they did and do. He's not wrong about that part. I mean it was a hellova rant, but that part is true. Some of the worst police-citizen relationships are in long time Democrat dominated areas, as are some egregious mistreatment of Native groups.

I mean the Southern Strategy has to be accounted for as well as the history of the parties (as groups) in general, but it's accurate to say Democrats supported slavery, abuse/d NA's, preside over some of the largest feeders into the prison-industrial complex (forced labor in deplorable conditions), abuse immigrants and so on. Being less bad than the Republicans doesn't absolve Democrats of their role perpetuating the things they superficially decry.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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