US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3952

On June 12 2023 03:41 NewSunshine wrote:
The emails are so insignificant that we're still talking about them 7 years later. Sounds about right.

"Don't tear the country apart" by simply proceeding with an open-shut case against Trump for possessing, hiding, and distributing documents he had no business having. You wanna know why Biden's not still in the news for having a few classified documents? He made sure they were returned as quickly as possible.

Take back the hostage taking rhetoric. We aren't dividing anything by saying you get the consequences for your actions as opposed to just being able to take whatever you want.

On June 12 2023 11:50 gobbledydook wrote:
It doesn't seem like this new indictment has changed many opinions. GOP voters still largely stick with Trump and feel he is being persecuted by politically motivated prosecutors.
I don't even think Trump getting convicted would do anything to change their minds. He'd just become a martyr.

On June 12 2023 11:50 gobbledydook wrote:
It doesn't seem like this new indictment has changed many opinions. GOP voters still largely stick with Trump and feel he is being persecuted by politically motivated prosecutors.
I don't even think Trump getting convicted would do anything to change their minds. He'd just become a martyr.

On June 13 2023 00:58 JimmiC wrote:
But why is the country riled up? It is so confusing.

Like if Biden did the exact same thing, took classified info he was not supposed to have, to a non secure site and was unwilling or unable to give it back. At worst he's a traitor (which if it was Biden all reps would think that) and at best he is not competent to hold the office and handle the responsibility.

There is no conspiracy. No one is denying the facts. Trump took em and won't give em back. Should presidents from either party be allowed to do this, or anyone be aloud to do this outside of the predetermined proper channels. Of course the answer is no as soon as it not "your guy" so clearly the answer has to be no for everyone.

There has been tons of stupidity surrounding the MAGA movement and it hard to pick the dumbest but this is right up there. Anyone who wants him to hold office has turned off their brain. If you like his policies pick and less criminal or incompetent (or preferably both) person.

On June 13 2023 00:58 JimmiC wrote:
But why is the country riled up? It is so confusing.

Like if Biden did the exact same thing, took classified info he was not supposed to have, to a non secure site and was unwilling or unable to give it back. At worst he's a traitor (which if it was Biden all reps would think that) and at best he is not competent to hold the office and handle the responsibility.

There is no conspiracy. No one is denying the facts. Trump took em and won't give em back. Should presidents from either party be allowed to do this, or anyone be aloud to do this outside of the predetermined proper channels. Of course the answer is no as soon as it not "your guy" so clearly the answer has to be no for everyone.

There has been tons of stupidity surrounding the MAGA movement and it hard to pick the dumbest but this is right up there. Anyone who wants him to hold office has turned off their brain. If you like his policies pick and less criminal or incompetent (or preferably both) person.

On June 13 2023 01:41 NewSunshine wrote:
Psychologists have done a lot of work analyzing things like cult dynamics and brainwashing. By the time we're at the point where Trumpers are hanging in there in the face of everything that's going on, you're dealing with people whose psychology has been fundamentally altered. The very things that you think should finally convince them they're wrong only convince them they're more correct instead. That's how they've gotten to this point, if logic and reason and criminal charges could overturn that they never would've gotten this far. We've said it a thousand times in a thousand different ways, but you really can't reason with them. They live in a world of delusion completely divorced from reality.

On June 13 2023 01:41 NewSunshine wrote:
Psychologists have done a lot of work analyzing things like cult dynamics and brainwashing. By the time we're at the point where Trumpers are hanging in there in the face of everything that's going on, you're dealing with people whose psychology has been fundamentally altered. The very things that you think should finally convince them they're wrong only convince them they're more correct instead. That's how they've gotten to this point, if logic and reason and criminal charges could overturn that they never would've gotten this far. We've said it a thousand times in a thousand different ways, but you really can't reason with them. They live in a world of delusion completely divorced from reality.

On June 13 2023 03:35 Mohdoo wrote:

I dunno how many people remember him, but a regular around here who was banned post-trump who went by xDaunt was an interesting case study in that. You can look through his posts in 2012, then the months leading up to the 2016 republican primary, then after the primary. It was truly fascinating to follow. I even once asked him to reconcile what he said about trump before and after and all I could ever get was the typical stuff we would all expect. It felt like it isn’t even really something they are able to perceive. They see it as information/situations changed. I think what happens is that people essentially re-analyze the past by using present perspectives. So they are thereby able to rewrite the past in their minds so that it’s all self-consistent.

On June 15 2023 00:44 JimmiC wrote:
What’s the Republican position on a trans women baring her breasts in public. If they consider her a man it is completely fine, correct?