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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3037 Posts
3 hours ago
#118181
People here who know a lot about naval ships, what's your opinion on this?

President Trump has directed the Navy to tear out a complex system for launching jet fighters from its aircraft carriers and instead go back to using steam catapults: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-orders-navy-to-restore-old-technology-in-aircraft-carriers-costing-billions-0055ec1b
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2862 Posts
2 hours ago
#118182
On August 14 2026 23:30 LightSpectra wrote:
People here who know a lot about naval ships, what's your opinion on this?

President Trump has directed the Navy to tear out a complex system for launching jet fighters from its aircraft carriers and instead go back to using steam catapults: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-orders-navy-to-restore-old-technology-in-aircraft-carriers-costing-billions-0055ec1b


It's extremely retarded.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3037 Posts
2 hours ago
#118183
Like how extremely? Is it the dumbest thing of his presidency so far or is "If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any" still the king?
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9064 Posts
2 hours ago
#118184
On August 14 2026 23:37 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 14 2026 23:30 LightSpectra wrote:
People here who know a lot about naval ships, what's your opinion on this?

President Trump has directed the Navy to tear out a complex system for launching jet fighters from its aircraft carriers and instead go back to using steam catapults: https://www.wsj.com/us-news/trump-orders-navy-to-restore-old-technology-in-aircraft-carriers-costing-billions-0055ec1b


It's extremely retarded.

Also seems suspiciously borderline treasonous in someway. I doubt it'll happen because that will take longer than he'll be president, and I'm sure Congress has to authorize that, no?
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6391 Posts
2 hours ago
#118185
Being charitable, it's somewhat hard to see how the WSJ concluded it's possible to "tear out" a system from a ship that hasn't even been laid down (CVN-81).
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24251 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-14 16:07:06
1 hour ago
#118186
People don't like data centers.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Seven in 10 Americans oppose constructing data centers for artificial intelligence in their local area


https://news.gallup.com/poll/709772/americans-oppose-data-centers-area.aspx

Armed with that information, establishment/third way Democrats are going to fight hard to overcome that.



You see, Democrats can fight for unpopular policy, but only when their Epstein class donors tell them to.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Jankisa
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Croatia1625 Posts
1 hour ago
#118187
On August 15 2026 01:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
People don't like data centers.

Show nested quote +
WASHINGTON, D.C. — Seven in 10 Americans oppose constructing data centers for artificial intelligence in their local area


https://news.gallup.com/poll/709772/americans-oppose-data-centers-area.aspx

Armed with that information, establishment/third way Democrats are going to fight hard to overcome that.

https://twitter.com/TomTiffanyWI/status/2088265519812022731

You see, Democrats can fight for unpopular policy, but only when their Epstein class donors tell them too.


Haven't really looked into this guy but from what I can remember, in the primary he beat the lady who hated holidays, which seems like a pretty unique way to shoot yourself in the foot.

I actually agree that the Democratic party at large is once again missing a chance to capitalize on a genuine popular movement, with the usual suspects being the notable exceptions.

The stupid thing is that it's not like they (Bernie and AOC) are completely aggressively anti-AI, no where near as vitriolic as the reddit brigade accusing anyone even casually using local versions of "burning down the planet and stealing intellectual property", but that doesn't stop the Neo-liberal crowd from painting them as Luddites who just want America to lose to China.

I think that in an alternative universe where Kamala won there would be an actual AI tzar who is not a shill for the industry who would sit down with a team of very smart people, invited the big players to the table and figured out a reasonable way of doing this, because there is very little indication that if all of this infrastructure gets built it will be used, since the demand is simply not there, and then you end up with megaprojects that don't get finished benefiting no one like the Foxcon factory.

That plus the very likely financial meltdown when the bubble bursts.
So, are you a pessimist? - On my better days. Are you a nihilist? - Not as much as I should be.
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3037 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-08-14 16:23:50
1 hour ago
#118188
There are a few pro-data center Democrats, but the overwhelming majority seem to be anti at this point. Even ones who are unequivocally "establishment" like Kathy Hochul and Amy Acton. And the pro ones typically at least want them more regulated. e.g. here's David Crowley two days ago: https://www.wizmnews.com/2026/08/12/david-crowley-guardrails-data-centers-wisconsin/

"Okay, that’s only for future data centers, but what about the data centers that are currently already built? And we have numerous data centers that are already being built, because even if you put a moratorium in place, it’s not gonna stop the data center that’s going up in Port Washington. It’s not gonna stop the data center that’s going on in Racine, right? And so we have to regulate what we currently have on the books. That means that they need to pay 100% for their energy. They need to pay 100% for the infrastructure upgrades or grid upgrades."

Now tell me how many anti-data center Republicans there are.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22518 Posts
1 hour ago
#118189
Politicians bought by the companies behind datacenters advocate for datacenters. I'm shocked...

This is the natural consequence of letting people buy politicians.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24251 Posts
23 minutes ago
#118190
On August 15 2026 01:22 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 15 2026 01:01 GreenHorizons wrote:
People don't like data centers.

WASHINGTON, D.C. — Seven in 10 Americans oppose constructing data centers for artificial intelligence in their local area


https://news.gallup.com/poll/709772/americans-oppose-data-centers-area.aspx

Armed with that information, establishment/third way Democrats are going to fight hard to overcome that.

https://twitter.com/TomTiffanyWI/status/2088265519812022731

You see, Democrats can fight for unpopular policy, but only when their Epstein class donors tell them to.


Politicians bought by the companies behind datacenters advocate for datacenters. I'm shocked...

This is the natural consequence of letting people buy politicians.

Yeah the bipartisan consensus support among the lackeys for the Epstein class around something people overwhelmingly reject is pretty naked.

Meanwhile, when politics about helping people are gaining traction in the Democrats' party, they're ready fight back against it:
“We are preparing for the next war that is coming,” said Jonathan Cowan, the president of Third Way, a leading centrist Democratic group, revealing to The New York Times a new $15 million effort between now and 2028 to discredit democratic socialism.

Mr. Cowan said the $15 million his group would spend through 2028 was not directed at individual candidates. Instead, the group plans to target the Democratic Socialists of America movement, which he believes poses a “mortal danger” for Democrats.

He said the effort would include opposition research into D.S.A., polling, social media programs and educating Democratic activists and leaders. It would target both proud democratic socialists and those such as Dr. El-Sayed, whom he derided as performing the “D.S.A. dodge” — flirting with democratic socialists enough to get their organizing manpower and support while remaining distant enough to avoid the explicit label.


https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/06/us/politics/democratic-party-socialists-moderates.html
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
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