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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On December 07 2021 07:51 farvacola wrote: Devin Nunes is retiring from Congress so he can be CEO of Trump’s new media company. Because of course he is. What a timeline we live in. god damn. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
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Acrofales
Spain18220 Posts
Real Academia Española. A group of scholars who decide what is official Spanish and what isn't. I googled and I guess English is the exception: most languages have an equivalent, but neither the US nor the UK do. Oh, and just to be clear, the RAE only prescribes what is proper Spanish in Spain. Mexico has their own institution, the Academia Mexicana de la Lengua, Colombia listens to the Academia Colombiana de la Lengua, etc. etc. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4742 Posts
On December 07 2021 07:24 Gahlo wrote: Here in America, if I hear "Polak" instead of Polish I assume somebody is being racist because the only times I've heard Polak is somebody making a joke at the Polish people's expense. Screw it, time to adapt pokemon terminology when talking about the Latis. Latin@. /s Yeah. It is polish in English. But in Polish langauge it is Polak (for male) and Polka (for female). I was trying to emulate what would happen if Americans were to borrow the words (like they did with latino/latina from Spanish) and twist them by adding x. In reality this "borrowing" already happened but to be used as an mild insult. Which i forgot. Maybe because I am not that bothered by it. | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
In keeping with the zeitgeist, we have now learned that Trump had a 38-page powerpoint ready to go to help him instigate the January 6th coup attempt. A powerpoint. But hey, it is what it is. But part of what it is, is intention and deliberation to attempt a coup d'etat and steal power for himself. Which we all kinda knew, but there was still room for a few of us in the back to pretend otherwise. | ||
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Husyelt
United States837 Posts
On December 10 2021 09:17 NewSunshine wrote: In keeping with the zeitgeist, we have now learned that Trump had a 38-page powerpoint ready to go to help him instigate the January 6th coup attempt. A powerpoint. But hey, it is what it is. But part of what it is, is intention and deliberation to attempt a coup d'etat and steal power for himself. Which we all kinda knew, but there was still room for a few of us in the back to pretend otherwise. Has that been actually verified as a thing that got passed around? I see nothing via WSJ/NYT/Reuters. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On December 10 2021 18:07 LegalLord wrote: The student loan “payments are going to restart” emails are starting to come in weekly now rather than monthly as they’ve been since August. Makes me wonder who the government is trying to convince - me, or themselves? I have a few theories. (1) They are rattling cages so people have as much anxiety as possible before they swoop in and save the day (2) They are legitimately extremely out of touch and think they can win 2022 an also resume student loans (3) This is all theater so that they can pass BBB and then do a 180. Manchin and Sinema will hate anything student loan related so they have to push it out until after BBB (4) Since plan of record is for them to resume, there are people who have jobs that include this sort of thing. Until something changes, this is just kind of their job In ranking of probability: (3), (1), (2), (4) | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
Sadly no respite for government employees, directly or via contractor, who have an even stricter almost-no-exceptions mandate backed by the legal principle of “the government can require whatever they want.” | ||
micronesia
United States24755 Posts
edit: Government contractors and the like are a bit more gray, so I'm talking about actual government employees / military. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On December 14 2021 03:02 micronesia wrote: Setting aside private employers, I see no reason why government employees shouldn't be required to show proof of vaccination. The cost argument you could reasonably make for private employers does not apply the same way. edit: Government contractors and the like are a bit more gray, so I'm talking about actual government employees / military. The edit is the bigger problem; I don’t have any qualms with direct government employees being asked to do it (not like military personnel aren’t vaccinated from all sorts of uncommon diseases anyways), and I guess technically they are an employer that should be free to set their own rules. Applying heavily un-nuanced mandates broadly to all contractors (or all employers) is more dubious. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Zambrah
United States7393 Posts
On December 11 2021 05:49 Mohdoo wrote: I have a few theories. (1) They are rattling cages so people have as much anxiety as possible before they swoop in and save the day (2) They are legitimately extremely out of touch and think they can win 2022 an also resume student loans (3) This is all theater so that they can pass BBB and then do a 180. Manchin and Sinema will hate anything student loan related so they have to push it out until after BBB (4) Since plan of record is for them to resume, there are people who have jobs that include this sort of thing. Until something changes, this is just kind of their job In ranking of probability: (3), (1), (2), (4) Looking like the answer is some variation of (2) Student loans are definitely going to come back, and with them the last ashes of Democrats retaining any chance at a good 2022 scatter to the winds. This was the obvious answer though, IMO, Democrats are undeniably completely and utterly out of touch with society. Well, at least they’ll get to go back to being a minority who can whinge and moan as their primary duty. https://www.forbes.com/sites/zackfriedman/2021/12/13/biden-administration-wont-extend-student-loan-relief-confirms-student-loan-payments-restart-february-1/?sh=b6c0375290c2 | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On December 14 2021 08:23 LegalLord wrote: I continue to think it'll be (2), followed by falling off a cliff into economic badness, forcing some serious backtracking. There's every indication that Biden's administration is foolish enough to do it, but even they're not dumb enough to stay the course in the face of economic ruin. I would certainly hope not, but who knows? Seems like the perfect way to fight a tepid fight with Republicans, who are as incensed and ready to fight their culture war as they've ever been. The comedy there to me has been how Republicans keep claiming everywhere that Biden and Democrats are destroying America, when most of what this administration has done so far is a half-hearted effort to fight the woes of the pandemic. What are they destroying when they're only barely doing anything at all? I guess that's the criticism you get when you're not busy packing a hyper-conservative court and fucking over the concept of rule of law. Their lack of decisive impetus, having a razor-thin majority that relies on the likes of Manchin and Sinema, and of course having to deal with Republicans who are literally just determined to make sure our government doesn't function, all comes together to make for a very underwhelming administrative response on a lot of fronts so far. It's not just the student loan situation. But on that I fear that even if they're gonna try something at the last minute, they're cutting it so close that it's gonna do damage anyway. We have to assume they're just gonna flip the switch at this point. And that's gonna piss off a lot of people. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
On December 14 2021 08:23 LegalLord wrote: I continue to think it'll be (2), followed by falling off a cliff into economic badness, forcing some serious backtracking. There's every indication that Biden's administration is foolish enough to do it, but even they're not dumb enough to stay the course in the face of economic ruin. It really begs the question, who is present during these discussions? Are they really just 60+ dumbassess? I feel like Pelosi understands what will happen when student loans start up. I just can't accept the idea that they are THIS out of touch. This is like a crazy level of out of touch. And the big thing is that they really don't need it. This isn't some kinda "society collapses if we don't pay this" thing. This is essentially just a tax on lower middle class and lower class folks. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On December 14 2021 09:39 JimmiC wrote: The big question to me is whats the long game. You cant have ultra expensive private post secondary where the government just pays for everything. I would totally have gotten 3 phds and Im sure Im not alone if you could full coverage for everything including living expenses which is what you can currently get. Maybe now is the time to fundementaly change the system. For healthcare as well, if the Dems really wanted to put pressure on the Reps they would use covid coverage, especially for the unvaccinated to get there. Im pretty sure the Republicans couldnt block something that would give everyone covid care. Like have it so if they vote against it the unvaccinated have to pay for their care, and if they dont you have universal healthcare. There is no way private insurers are going to touch the unvaccinated so everyone is paying for them right now anyhow, but you might as well get a major policy to continue it. Part of the expensive education problem, at least with how my eyes are seeing it, is that maybe education shouldn't be so ridiculously expensive. I know it's a much easier problem to point at than it is to solve, but if various aspects of the job market at large weren't all so inflationary and reliant on constant growth then education would be in a more reasonable realm, I think. I do also think you're wrong about Republicans. They would vote against things that give everyone care, because they have. If money could convince a group of people to forsake everyone and everything else, it explains the behavior of Republicans. They're basically a virus at this point. And that's before you account for how much they helped COVID overwhelm the US and the world. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15737 Posts
We have an enormous incentive as a country to drag the federal government into this mess. As it stands, education is a money MAKER for the people in power, not a cost. That is clearly going to make things very bad for students and society as a whole. The single largest reason to advocate for loan forgiveness is the reduction of long term costs of education. | ||
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