US Politics Mega-thread - Page 3262

On July 21 2021 05:54 JimmiC wrote:

I guess we will see, I'm starting to see more and more articles about the Alamo that are not "bad Mexicans trying to take Murica" and many more about how the Mexican government was trying to outlaw slavery and the Americans who immigrated were fighting them because they wanted to keep it and protect their cotton profits. Sometimes these bills create the unintended consequence of huge push back. I'm not confident but some of this stuff that plays well with a small crowd plays really really bad with the independents and is the battle cry to get the polls for the rest of the dems. I would be interested in how it plays with Hispanics who many do vote Republican.

The other morbid to think about is as the south starts to hit their 4th wave which is going to disproportionately hit republicans (way less vaccination plus tend to be older) is some of the purple states might go full blue as many of the republicans seem to trying to kill off their own voters (I have to imagine family members of people who died/ long term issues from covid will also switch but confirmation bias is a powerful force so who knows if there is more than those who just pass away needlessly).

Has anything like this ever happened before? It boggles my mind.

On July 22 2021 02:44 BisuDagger wrote:

Republicans are acting ridiculous over getting the vaccine and Democrats are acting like the vaccine has cured the world already and don't care to follow the pre-vaccine safety guidelines. It's horrible in Jacksonville, Fl right now. I've been vaccinated (twice) and still wear a mask indoors and keeps my distance from everyone. Fortunately in my county (which borders Jville), the majority of us still wear masks and keep a pretty good distance from others. July 4th was a disaster though. I'm starting to loathe holidays that generate large gatherings.

I heard on the news this morning, something like 60% of hospitalization cases in England (London?) are patients that have already received at least one vaccination shot. I'll link the article if I can find it. It's exhausting to see people continually let their guard down after receiving a shot.

On July 22 2021 02:57 Gorsameth wrote:
UK thing is likely because of single vaccine doses being less effective against Delta compared to other variants.

On July 21 2021 06:31 JimmiC wrote:

Which only works if the next government does not put its own bill that is the exact opposite. As Sim pointed out no teacher has to teach this way and most tend to lean away from the far right.

I'm not saying it is a good thing, I'm looking for silver lining of atrocious policy.

On July 22 2021 04:26 StasisField wrote:

They don't want people to be educated. They want to spoonfeed people misinformation and nationalist propaganda so they can demonize those who want to change the United States for the better. Changing how history is taught and viewed in our education system is a big part of this tactic. Republicans have employed similar attacks before like when they pressured the College Board into changing the AP U.S. History exam to focus less on the negative aspects of American History.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/college-board-rewrites-american-history/2015/07/30/cadadd4c-36d1-11e5-b673-1df005a0fb28_story.html

On July 22 2021 12:48 Uldridge wrote:
Noooooooo, JimmiC and GH are about to get in yet another pissing contest for pages to come.

On July 22 2021 23:41 WombaT wrote:

It’s been too long, pumped for this.

I’m unsure how much schooling impacts propaganda, it plays a part desire and can definitely enact/counteract some specific narratives. There’s neither the time, nor to some degree the space due to accommodating a wide range of abilities to do much but a surface level simplification of history, never mind doing any kind of deep dive on systemic questions.

At least in Western countries that I’m familiar with the propaganda layer floats atop society as a whole as national myth and is reflected and reinforced pretty heavily by news and entertainment media.

In that sense the US seems more propagandised than most, for example I don’t think it’s coincidental that police procedurals are so popular, and there’s a militarised police force many people resist even the most cursory reforms of

On July 22 2021 23:45 Jockmcplop wrote:

A weird thing I noticed, without wanting to pile on Americans, is an attitude to their own country that I've never seen anywhere else in the world.
Some Americans don't just think that America is the greatest country in the world, but expect everyone else to think that too, and are genuinely confused and angry if anyone disagrees.
That, to me, is a sign of some pretty deep brainwashing.