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On October 18 2020 18:52 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 18:51 Gorsameth wrote:On October 18 2020 18:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 18 2020 18:39 Gorsameth wrote:On October 18 2020 18:15 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 18 2020 07:47 Mohdoo wrote:
Major right wing outlets, such as fox, drudge and breitbart don't seem to be making a big deal out of the laptop bullshit. If they aren't biting much, it's definitely nothing Just to be clear, what I think is unacceptable about the Biden's behavior regarding this Ukraine bribe isn't even in dispute. considering the very sentence you type contains something that is being disputed I doubt that. But that is what happens when you vague references and don't actually type out what you mean. I don't take people that claim to believe Hunter had the job for any other reason than to buy access to/influence with his father seriously. That's just a level of gullibility/naivete I can't entertain. glad we agree that your statement was false  No. The taking the job itself is unacceptable to me and no one disputes he took the job.
But not even the Maduros or Castros of the world want to stop this practice. They just want their own kids/friends (you know, proper salt-of-the-earth working class people) in these positions of power instead of the "elite".
I know you don't want old-style communism, but you need to pick your battles. You won't eradicate nepotism or influence peddling with socialism, other mechanisms are needed, and requiring absolutely everything to pass your purity test before they obtain the GH stamp of approval is going to leave you with very very few allies.
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On October 18 2020 19:47 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 18:52 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 18 2020 18:51 Gorsameth wrote:On October 18 2020 18:47 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 18 2020 18:39 Gorsameth wrote:On October 18 2020 18:15 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 18 2020 07:47 Mohdoo wrote:
Major right wing outlets, such as fox, drudge and breitbart don't seem to be making a big deal out of the laptop bullshit. If they aren't biting much, it's definitely nothing Just to be clear, what I think is unacceptable about the Biden's behavior regarding this Ukraine bribe isn't even in dispute. considering the very sentence you type contains something that is being disputed I doubt that. But that is what happens when you vague references and don't actually type out what you mean. I don't take people that claim to believe Hunter had the job for any other reason than to buy access to/influence with his father seriously. That's just a level of gullibility/naivete I can't entertain. glad we agree that your statement was false No. The taking the job itself is unacceptable to me and no one disputes he took the job. But not even the Maduros or Castros of the world want to stop this practice. They just want their own kids/friends (you know, proper salt-of-the-earth working class people) in these positions of power instead of the "elite". I know you don't want old-style communism, but you need to pick your battles. You won't eradicate nepotism or influence peddling with socialism, other mechanisms are needed, and requiring absolutely everything to pass your purity test before they obtain the GH stamp of approval is going to leave you with very very few allies. While I appreciate the whataboutism, it doesn't detract from my point.
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On October 18 2020 18:53 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 06:39 Nouar wrote:
A corrupt prosecutor, it's even alleged in the "emails" that that prosecutor was trying to get bribes from Burisma... Biden was not alone in wanting that guy fired, all Europe and the IMF and others were pushing for him to get the boot.
What's the issue there ?
There's a decent chance these emails are real, I'm totally ok with the FBI investigating, but if this is all that's in those... I mean, the worst alleged for now is that Biden may have briefly met a Burisma executive. Which is not a crime or indication or corruption in itself. How many executives or associates of his children have Trump met, do you think ?
That there are far better uses for a billion dollars of US taxpayers money than using it to bribe Ukrainian govt officials? Biden has repeatedly said he did not know about his sons overseas business dealings.Meeting with Burisma officials, getting half of Hunters Burisma salary etc kind of undermines his argument.This was all known before to those following the story but the emails reinforce it.I note there hasn't been a legal challenge against the NYPost to stop them reporting on the emails or an outright denial from the Biden campaign that they are real emails and not a fabrication? Correct me if i am wrong. Besides, the photos/videos may turn out to be the real problem here for the Biden campaign.Bannon/Giuliani are claiming that the real juicy stuff will start leaking 10 days from election date so we will have to wait and see.Could get interesting, for sure.
You're interested in viewing the peepee of Biden's son or him wasted ? That's pretty sad. I mean, there were pictures of Melania naked 4y ago but that was from a public magazines, not hacked material.
Yes it is questionable Hunter took that job. It happens in nearly every company, for nearly every family. Take one rich family with influence and show me children that got jobs purely on their merits, nothing to do with their last name. It's sad, but it's reality, and not illegal.
Are you finding questionable that just after Trump took the UAE's side in the UAE/Qatar dispute, the Qatari rented for millions office space in Trump's properties, that are still empty but still being paid for monthly, and that just after that, Trump changed his policy towards Qatar ?
Are you finding illegal that Ivanka is doing business in China, trademarking for her brands, while she is a government official and her father is dealing with trade policy regarding China ? Is it technically legal here as well ? Just bad behaviour ? Nobody is going to get prosecuted, so it's your morals speaking.
I don't like both cases (Hunter's job itself, not specifically Shokin's firing). In my view, what's Hunter is doing is not relevant to this election, as what Ivanka is doing isn't, either (though it should be more important as she IS a government official and even replaced her father in UN meetings -wtf what she doing there-)
That there are far better uses for a billion dollars of US taxpayers money than using it to bribe Ukrainian govt officials?
The US has spent DECADES doing exactly that. Leveraging the aid they provide to achieve very specific policy goals in foreign countries, and leveraging the business they can provide to achieve the same goals.
What is suprising or new ? This specific item was wanted by the whole western world, and is not specific to the Bidens.
Sometimes it's for good reasons, sometimes it's for bad (removing all health/vaccines/medical aid to countries to provide legal abortion for mothers, having the little side effects of thousands dying).
Providing a billion dollar for the rebuilding of institutions in a country that was just going through a civil war after being invaded by Russia, provided they root their most corrupt officials, doesn't look weird to me.
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On October 18 2020 01:28 Dan HH wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 00:10 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 17 2020 23:57 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 17 2020 23:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 17 2020 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 17 2020 23:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
Do people remember The Guardian was a tabloid when it ran that fictional Manafort meets Assange story that Democrats didn't immediately write off as tabloid trash? That's nothing to do with whether or not the Guardian is tabloid though (it isn't) It does/is? The Guardian newspaper adopts tabloid format Shows what I know lol. I guess that's how dead the newspaper industry is. The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet. Like you said shows what you know. I doubt the last time you saw a newspaper was 2 years ago, so surely some cognitive dissonance should have occured when you read what Gh wrote. It's tabloid format, as in the newspaper is physically printed on smaller pages, whereas broadsheets are printed on large pages. The Guardian is not regarded as tabloid trash. You'll think you would have learnt not to take GH at face value anymore, but apparently not. You're telling me this isn't the paper size mega-thread? Jockmcplop lives in UK. The article is over 2 years old. Somehow he managed to overwrite 2 years of visual memories at sentence from Gh. The very link GH posted would had disabused the notion pushed by Gh as manimpulated by the common use of the word tabloid and the tabloid format. It's obvious that neither Gh or JockMcPlop read the link. You don't need to know anything about newspaper formats, but at least read the link and think a bit before posting.
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On October 18 2020 21:47 Dangermousecatdog wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 01:28 Dan HH wrote:On October 18 2020 00:10 Dangermousecatdog wrote:On October 17 2020 23:57 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 17 2020 23:55 GreenHorizons wrote:On October 17 2020 23:51 Jockmcplop wrote:On October 17 2020 23:44 GreenHorizons wrote:
Do people remember The Guardian was a tabloid when it ran that fictional Manafort meets Assange story that Democrats didn't immediately write off as tabloid trash? That's nothing to do with whether or not the Guardian is tabloid though (it isn't) It does/is? The Guardian newspaper adopts tabloid format Shows what I know lol. I guess that's how dead the newspaper industry is. The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet. Like you said shows what you know. I doubt the last time you saw a newspaper was 2 years ago, so surely some cognitive dissonance should have occured when you read what Gh wrote. It's tabloid format, as in the newspaper is physically printed on smaller pages, whereas broadsheets are printed on large pages. The Guardian is not regarded as tabloid trash. You'll think you would have learnt not to take GH at face value anymore, but apparently not. You're telling me this isn't the paper size mega-thread? Jockmcplop lives in UK. The article is over 2 years old. Somehow he managed to overwrite 2 years of visual memories at sentence from Gh. The very link GH posted would had disabused the notion pushed by Gh as manimpulated by the common use of the word tabloid and the tabloid format. It's obvious that neither Gh or JockMcPlop read the link. You don't need to know anything about newspaper formats, but at least read the link and think a bit before posting.
I don't buy or look at newspapers....
So your '2 years of memories' is bullshit i'm afraid. The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet.
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So...the last time you visited a supermarket or a corner shop was more than 2 years ago?
But hey, you could had at least read the link to the post you are replying to before replying.
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On October 18 2020 23:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So...the last time you visited a supermarket or a corner shop was more than 2 years ago?
But hey, you could had at least read the link to the post you are replying to before replying.
Doesn't mean he looked at the papers though. Or necessarily that he read them enough in the past to even really know the terminology.
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On October 18 2020 23:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
So...the last time you visited a supermarket or a corner shop was more than 2 years ago?
But hey, you could had at least read the link to the post you are replying to before replying.
1: I have absolutely no idea why you are so annoyed about this. Do you always take it so personally when people discuss newspaper formatting, or is this just another 'backseat moderating to get my post count up because i have nothing to actually contribute' thing?
2: Let me ask you a question...
What does Tesco's own brand capers packaging look like?
You probably don't know because you don't look at them. Doesn't mean I would assume you haven't been to Tesco in the last two years.
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I don't shop at Tescos. But since their logo is white, red and blue, I presume so is their packaging as part of their branding strategy. You can tell me if I am correct or not. Though since capers are usually sold in glass jars, packaging space may be limited.
What I can do however is, I read links before replying to them, which would had disabused you of the notion GH (who obviously didn't read the very link he posted himself either) was pushing which you automatically endorsed. I think what you should get out of this, is more awareness to not just accept what people write at face value because they posted a link.
People posting links that don't support what the narrative they are expressing is doubly sad when they get posts of support that shows they couldn't be bothered to read the link either.
Edit: For those who don't really understand, every newsagent/cornershop/supermarket/petrol station will have newspapers on a big stand on display either immediately at the front or queues of the shop, sometimes both. It's not something that can escape attention, especially when someone writes "The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet." The newspaper industry is not dead yet in UK, and to write that is just bizarre as if living in an alternate reality.
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On October 18 2020 15:05 NewSunshine wrote:
"But lefties are doing something kinda similar, so we can do whatever the fuck we want and you deserve it." A true Republican classic. Never own up to your own actions, never take responsibility, and most of all, never commit to a moral standard, because it'll just get in the way later.
Do you believe that mass gatherings are safe right now so long as people wear masks?
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On October 18 2020 23:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't shop at Tescos. But since their logo is white, red and blue, I presume so is their packaging as part of their branding strategy. You can tell me if I am correct or not. Though since capers are usually sold in glass jars, packaging space may be limited.
What I can do however is, I read links before replying to them, which would had disabused you of the notion GH (who obviously didn't read the very link he posted himself either) was pushing which you automatically endorsed. I think what you should get out of this, is more awareness to not just accept what people write at face value because they posted a link.
People posting links that don't support what the narrative they are expressing is doubly sad when they get posts of support that shows they couldn't be bothered to read the link either.
Edit: For those who don't really understand, every newsagent/cornershop/supermarket/petrol station will have newspapers on a big stand on display either immediately at the front or queues of the shop, sometimes both. It's not something that can escape attention, especially when someone writes "The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet." The newspaper industry is not dead yet in UK, and to write that is just bizarre as if living in an alternate reality.
The Guardian literally changed its format 2 years ago. You aren't even arguing that, and yet that is all i said. My original comment was along the lines of 'Oh I didn't realize the Guardian had changed to a tabloid format' and you take it upon yourself to insert into my memories things that were never there to begin with.
I don't know if you are taking it so personally because you thought I was making a comment about the Guardian's content or something, I wasn't, I literally just didn't know that it changed its format and was surprised so i commented.
So don't talk to me about endorsing things when i never endorsed anything, and don't assume you know what I see when I walk into a shop. For the record I completely ignore the newspapers because if I'm going to the shop, I've probably checked the news websites I look at.
One more thing. Can you think of a single reason why I would lie about whether or not I know the format of a newspaper except that I'm a completely insane weirdo who enjoys the idea of people thinking that I don't know one thing about newspaper formats when hilariously I already knew that?
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On October 18 2020 23:42 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I don't shop at Tescos. But since their logo is white, red and blue, I presume so is their packaging as part of their branding strategy. You can tell me if I am correct or not. Though since capers are usually sold in glass jars, packaging space may be limited.
What I can do however is, I read links before replying to them, which would had disabused you of the notion GH (who obviously didn't read the very link he posted himself either) was pushing which you automatically endorsed. I think what you should get out of this, is more awareness to not just accept what people write at face value because they posted a link.
People posting links that don't support what the narrative they are expressing is doubly sad when they get posts of support that shows they couldn't be bothered to read the link either.
Edit: For those who don't really understand, every newsagent/cornershop/supermarket/petrol station will have newspapers on a big stand on display either immediately at the front or queues of the shop, sometimes both. It's not something that can escape attention, especially when someone writes "The last time I saw a Guardian newspaper it was a broadsheet." The newspaper industry is not dead yet in UK, and to write that is just bizarre as if living in an alternate reality.
I'm going to all sorts of shops nearly every day, with newspapers being on the frontline in a lot of those, I don't even glance at them. I couldn't tell you for sure what's the format of the top3 french newspapers.
Give him a break and please change topic ?
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On October 19 2020 00:13 JimmiC wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2020 23:54 Doodsmack wrote:On October 18 2020 15:05 NewSunshine wrote:
"But lefties are doing something kinda similar, so we can do whatever the fuck we want and you deserve it." A true Republican classic. Never own up to your own actions, never take responsibility, and most of all, never commit to a moral standard, because it'll just get in the way later. Do you believe that mass gatherings are safe right now so long as people wear masks? If they are outdoors, with social distancing they are fairly safe depending on community spread in the area. It is more or less how health authorities have suggested gatherings happen. Now depending on the size and location distancing can be difficult but from the pictures I've seen people did a good job. If you are looking for no risk though staying at home is best, which is why if you can mail in voting is better, so while it is pretty laughable consider his schtick I'm happy to see the Donald putting out ads to vote by mail. Voting in person will probably be a bad experience given the numbers of hoax believers, antimaskers and lack of space.
Those health authorities aren't exactly recommending such gatherings though. In fact they are doing the opposite, though of course they won't say anything about a protest with which they agree.
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The conversation has somehow turned from Trump's (the President's!) incredibly reckless behavior regarding rallies during a pandemic (without even calling strongly for masks) to exactly how partisan health officials are in decisions to chastize large groups of people. Absent: acknowledgement that Trumps' behavior is unacceptable regardless of any other whataboutism on the part of people raising issues with the original concern (or alternately, endorse Trump's behavior here).
A better comparison than Trump's rallies to a women's march is Biden's rallies. To my knowledge, he is not recklessly holding large mostly-maskless rallies while killing off his supporters (cough Herman Cain) in the process.
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The very smart people who have spent their entire lives studying viruses recommend against mass gatherings, period. It's unsafe. But they also say things like this:
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