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LegalLord
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ZerOCoolSC2
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On October 06 2020 04:31 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: Medical staff is probably keeping his bed warm for his eventual return by week's end. Possible he's actually fine. As people have pointed out, the dexamethasone makes him feel artificially good, but its entirely possible to got other forms of therapy secretly. We really have no idea. Edit: Another possibility is that there isn't a benefit to him actually being at the hospital anymore. If they were able to move equipment and stuff into the whitehouse, he could still be doing poorly, but be fine at the whitehouse. When he started having lower oxygen, the correct move was to get him to a hospital ASAP for full analysis. If his doctors feel like they understand his condition well enough to send him home, knowing they can fly him back if they need to, and added a bunch of medical stuff to the white house, it makes sense for him to go home. The political advantage of leaving the hospital is positive. Funny enough, it is positive for both democrat and republican messaging. Biden can say Trump doesn't give a shit because powerful men like him get infinite healthcare. So 200,000 people dying truly isn't an issue to him. Trump can say Covid is a nothing burger and make shit up about 700,000 people die from the common cold every year. Or just make up some other shit. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
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On October 06 2020 04:33 Mohdoo wrote: Possible he's actually fine. As people have pointed out, the dexamethasone makes him feel artificially good, but its entirely possible to got other forms of therapy secretly. We really have no idea. Will he stay in one place long enough to receive said treatments? Will he isolate or continue to super-spread? How do you really think a 74 year old person is going to keep up when that cocktail of drugs is gone? I talked to someone who had it and they said they slept for 3 days straight (up long enough to use the bathroom and eat/drink). And he was young (late 30s or early 40s). | ||
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Doublemint
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LegalLord
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On October 06 2020 04:52 LegalLord wrote: The real question I have is, is he going to self-isolate or go right back on the campaign trail after a brief bout of better health? One of these options is the smart one, and the other is more likely. Would there be any legal consequences if he infected someone carrying out his duty as President, knowing that it was likely they would get infected? | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
(this is insane to everyone outside of the DOJ, but has been the official position for decades) edit: Also, the odds Trump got put on a secret therapy and that it was actually kept secret are extremely low. They couldn't keep having him on oxygen secret for more than a couple of hours. | ||
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Starlightsun
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On October 06 2020 04:56 Nevuk wrote: No, because the official position of the US department of justice is that the president is above the law. (this is insane to everyone outside of the DOJ, but has been the official position for decades) edit: Also, the odds Trump got put on a secret therapy and that it was actually kept secret are extremely low. They couldn't keep having him on oxygen secret for more than a couple of hours. So theoretically he could walk into Biden's campaign wherever they are. | ||
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JimmiC
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 06 2020 04:58 Jockmcplop wrote: So theoretically he could walk into Biden's campaign wherever they are. Well, Biden's secret service would just lock the doors on him to keep him from getting in. But for people without secret service detail, he could literally shoot them in cold blood without legal consequences from the federal government, let alone intentional COVID infections. Now, the state he did it in might object and issue an arrest warrant for him, but it's not like he can't just stay in DC indefinitely and be outside of their jurisdiction. Whether a state could actually even enforce that warrant is up to the current SC, where the odds are pretty good that the SC says they can (as they've been as dismissive of the "above the law" argument as anyone outside of the DOJ). That policy will be overturned the second it's actually challenged, but it can't be challenged except by the people who agree with it, and they cite it as a reason they won't investigate his crimes. | ||
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farvacola
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10011 Posts
On October 06 2020 05:05 Nevuk wrote: Well, Biden's secret service would just lock the doors on him to keep him from getting in. In my head I was picturing a twisted but slightly hilarious foot chase scene through DC. | ||
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JimmiC
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StalkerTL
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On October 06 2020 04:52 LegalLord wrote: The real question I have is, is he going to self-isolate or go right back on the campaign trail after a brief bout of better health? One of these options is the smart one, and the other is more likely. He didn’t self isolate when he went on that joyride yesterday with the secret service, why you think he’s going to isolate now. This is just pathetic North Korea quality propaganda to put up an image of him being a superhuman while doped up on a million drugs and steroids. Why Pence isn’t in control I don’t know but this administration already can’t handle the coronavirus in their own administration so sensible decisions obviously aren’t their strong suit. In all likelihood he does feel alright and the doctors aren’t going to say no to a president who does whatever he wants. I got a bout of steroids in the past and it makes you like a superhuman. Didn’t sleep for a whole day. You feel like complete shit after the effects wears off, however. | ||
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Erasme
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On October 06 2020 06:34 Erasme wrote: Well, let's see how it goes. Maybe he had an incredibly mild case. I wouldn't stand next to him for the next 10 days tho. People should isolate for 2 weeks after being free of symptoms. Leaving the hospital is not the same as having no symptoms. While I am sure they tossed him at the hospital earlier than they would for most people, it is important to remember leaving the hospital is not the end of a covid infection | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
Once again, can't really know with that dude. | ||
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JimmiC
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