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well, there's a bit more too it though
I think May reopenings without adequate testing and PPE gear (still several months away afaik) is a recipe for disaster though.
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GreenHorizons
United States23469 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + well, there's a bit more too it though I think May reopenings without adequate testing and PPE gear (still several months away afaik) is a recipe for disaster though. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States45049 Posts
On April 19 2020 21:20 GreenHorizons wrote: To be as fair as I possibly can to the protesters, they aren't entirely wrong + Show Spoiler + well, there's a bit more too it though I think May reopenings without adequate testing and PPE gear (still several months away afaik) is a recipe for disaster though. Oh man, is that sign real? I feel like everything is Communism these days, in the eyes of half our population. | ||
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farvacola
United States18838 Posts
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mahrgell
Germany3943 Posts
It is a perfect win-win. Oh, and I'm sure Trump will still travel there to hold his rallies. Just let him do it. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On April 19 2020 21:23 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Oh man, is that sign real? I feel like everything is Communism these days, in the eyes of half our population. If you can't die for the capitalist economy, it's communism. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On April 19 2020 21:20 GreenHorizons wrote: To be as fair as I possibly can to the protesters, they aren't entirely wrong + Show Spoiler + well, there's a bit more too it though I think May reopenings without adequate testing and PPE gear (still several months away afaik) is a recipe for disaster though. Why America elected Trump in a single picture. Such idiocy requires a president to match it. | ||
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plated.rawr
Norway1676 Posts
And I'm also amused because states rights proponents are typically against centralized government and all for personal freedoms. Now, however, they're begging the federal government to usurp power from the local governments, as if they didn't realise the split of power between federal government and state governments is a part of the mechanism against the rise of tyrannical monarchism in the US. At this point, republicans should rebrand themselves monarchists, as all their work is going towards centralizing power under a single person. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11630 Posts
On April 19 2020 22:07 plated.rawr wrote: I am somewhat amused by the eagerness of the states-rights, dont-thread-on-me-people to throw away their supposedly dear principles of ignoring the federal government and backing states rights, instead urging the federal government to overwrite the powers of the states. In a sane timeline, I'd expect the federal government, in response to the corona pandemic, to be limiting travel in the US, something the states' rights-people would protest as an overreach of the federal government. But in our time line? Pro-states people are marching in the streets shouting for federal intervention to allow them to expose and spread viral disease. And I'm also amused because states rights proponents are typically against centralized government and all for personal freedoms. Now, however, they're begging the federal government to usurp power from the local governments, as if they didn't realise the split of power between federal government and state governments is a part of the mechanism against the rise of tyrannical monarchism in the US. At this point, republicans should rebrand themselves monarchists, as all their work is going towards centralizing power under a single person. This basically just exposes what everyone knew anyways. Republicans don't actually care about the things they pretend to care about. States rights are not something they actually care about, states rights were always an excuse to support discrimination against people they don't like or prevent any laws that might make stuff better for poor people. All of these principles they cared so much about disappeared the second their strong orange buffoon was in power. This was very obvious in the past already, now it is even more obvious. It is a really weird, utterly alien way of thinking that rational people simply cannot deal with, because it is impossible to have an argument with people who simply do not care about facts OR the things they claim to care about. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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mierin
United States4943 Posts
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23469 Posts
On April 20 2020 05:37 Nyxisto wrote: That Bloomberg story is quite something. Not even Murdoch intervened when Carreyrou ran the story about Theranos despite being heavily invested in the company Going to be awkward if Bloomberg's Hawkfish wins the bids it has out on Democrats | ||
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Logo
United States7542 Posts
The progression/timing of "The media didn't manufacture consent by running an onslaught of negative Bernie coverage" to "Bloomberg manipulates his media empire to personally enrich himself" is pretty on the nose. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On April 19 2020 22:49 Simberto wrote: This basically just exposes what everyone knew anyways. Republicans don't actually care about the things they pretend to care about. States rights are not something they actually care about, states rights were always an excuse to support discrimination against people they don't like or prevent any laws that might make stuff better for poor people. All of these principles they cared so much about disappeared the second their strong orange buffoon was in power. This was very obvious in the past already, now it is even more obvious. It is a really weird, utterly alien way of thinking that rational people simply cannot deal with, because it is impossible to have an argument with people who simply do not care about facts OR the things they claim to care about. It's infinitely more plausible that people are partisan and don't base their support generally on any principles. This is why you see Democrats pushing for "states rights" now and GOP'ers doing the opposite. Gee, what's the common denominator for these trends when parties flip and flop. I wonder...maybe it has something to do with who is in power. Naw, can't be that, it's the other thing. | ||
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Wegandi
United States2455 Posts
On April 20 2020 03:28 JimmiC wrote: Some, it the few places where I have read articles about what is expected she is usually in third place with Kamala Harris and Gretchin Whitmer as the favorites. I've also seen Stacy Abrahs name a lot lately being liked by progressives and brings in the south vote from a flipable state in both electoral college and senate race. How does Abrahams bring southern voters? You do realize she lost right? So did Gillum in Florida. These are losing people and their policies as well in the South. The last thing you want to put on the ticket with Biden is someone like Gillum or Abrahams. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland26036 Posts
On April 20 2020 12:43 Logo wrote: Great info dump on the Bloomberg situation. Very interesting to read for sure. The progression/timing of "The media didn't manufacture consent by running an onslaught of negative Bernie coverage" to "Bloomberg manipulates his media empire to personally enrich himself" is pretty on the nose. At least Bloomberg isn’t Trump though... It is a rather interesting albeit at times depressing read. Actual journalism, which I fear will greatly diminish over time due to people’s misplaced wholesale media skepticism. Cheers for taking the time to compile Jimmy, I’m studiously avoiding too much news lately so this thread is invaluable. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
On April 20 2020 17:11 Wegandi wrote: How does Abrahams bring southern voters? You do realize she lost right? So did Gillum in Florida. These are losing people and their policies as well in the South. The last thing you want to put on the ticket with Biden is someone like Gillum or Abrahams. This is a pretty short-sighted take. Abrams had an incredibly close election in a state that has been reliably Republican for a long time and the entire election was haunted by very serious questions of voter suppression. | ||
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