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On November 08 2019 11:26 GreenHorizons wrote:
Just what the Dem primary was missing, another centrist billionaire. Because the only thing that stops a bad guy with billions of dollars is a "good" guy with billions of dollars.
Be nice if they just raised the debate bar to 10% in polls.
I feel like starting it low for the first two or so debates is fine, so everyone has a chance to see the policies. Afterwards raise it a couple % every month and cap it at 10-12%
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Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt?
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If bloomberg runs he would have a better chance against trump then any of the other democratic candidates.
Maybe he could even win,who knows.
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On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt?
Because we've collectively agreed to let Trump lie to the American people.
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On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt?
I am really wondering why the court judgment didn't force him to make his statement of guilt on Twitter. I mean, companies or others owning magazines sometimes have to publish directly in their magazines that they acted wrongly ? Could have been the same here, and man, would I have laughed at it !
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On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? Because lying to the public is not a crime.
Edit: And even if it was, you can't sue the President for things he does while in office.
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On November 08 2019 19:31 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? Because lying to the public is not a crime.
That would imply he's been unable to do crimes?
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I've been out of the loop for a while; what happened to Daunt and Danglars? They never seem to post here anymore.
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Norway28751 Posts
daunt got banned and danglars stopped posting (in this thread) when daunt got banned.
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On November 08 2019 19:37 GreenHorizons wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 19:31 Gorsameth wrote:On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:
Why is trump allowed to go on record ans claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? Because lying to the public is not a crime. That would imply he's been unable to do crimes? what? Are you trying to imply that the only thing Trump has done is lie, and not a single other possibly criminal act?
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Norway28751 Posts
No he implies that Trump has gotten away with crimes his entire life thus something being criminal isn't going to deter him from doing anything..
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On November 08 2019 20:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
No he implies that Trump has gotten away with crimes his entire life thus something being criminal isn't going to deter him from doing anything.. Which has little to do with On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:Why is trump allowed to go on record and claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? If it was criminal he could be taken to court and forced to publicly correct his statements or be given a gag order.
If he would ignore that he would be held in contempt of court and risk going to jail.
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On November 08 2019 20:15 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 20:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
No he implies that Trump has gotten away with crimes his entire life thus something being criminal isn't going to deter him from doing anything.. Which has little to do with Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:Why is trump allowed to go on record and claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? If it was criminal he could be taken to court and forced to publicly correct his statements or be given a gag order. If he would ignore that he would be held in contempt of court and risk going to jail.
no, he couldn’t, in the practical sense. that’s his point. he’s already done crimes and that hasn’t been the case because people can’t (wont) hold him accountable. lying to the public not being criminal is irrelevant given this perspective, and thus the comment.
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On November 08 2019 20:20 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 20:15 Gorsameth wrote:On November 08 2019 20:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
No he implies that Trump has gotten away with crimes his entire life thus something being criminal isn't going to deter him from doing anything.. Which has little to do with On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:Why is trump allowed to go on record and claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? If it was criminal he could be taken to court and forced to publicly correct his statements or be given a gag order. If he would ignore that he would be held in contempt of court and risk going to jail. no, he couldn’t. that’s his point. he’s already done crimes and that hasn’t been the case. lying to the public not being criminal is irrelevant given this perspective, and thus the comment. Because he currently holds the office of the President of the United States and you pretty much can't sue the President.
But your right, I should expand the answer to "its not illegal, and even if it was you can't sue the President for things he does while in office.".
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On November 08 2019 20:27 Gorsameth wrote:Show nested quote +On November 08 2019 20:20 brian wrote:On November 08 2019 20:15 Gorsameth wrote:On November 08 2019 20:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:
No he implies that Trump has gotten away with crimes his entire life thus something being criminal isn't going to deter him from doing anything.. Which has little to do with On November 08 2019 16:25 Broetchenholer wrote:Why is trump allowed to go on record and claim his charity did nothing wrong when he had to admit guilt? If it was criminal he could be taken to court and forced to publicly correct his statements or be given a gag order. If he would ignore that he would be held in contempt of court and risk going to jail. no, he couldn’t. that’s his point. he’s already done crimes and that hasn’t been the case. lying to the public not being criminal is irrelevant given this perspective, and thus the comment. Because he currently holds the office of the President of the United States and you pretty much can't sue the President. But your right, I should expand the answer to "its not illegal, and even if it was you can't sue the President for things he does while in office.".
He's been getting away with it his whole life and we don't hold ex-presidents accountable either (hell liberals damn near like Bush more than Republicans now).
Kwark had it right with him being able to do it because we collectively allow it, granting that concession means different things to different people.
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In a shocking turn of events, after all the complaining about closed impeachment hearings being hidden from the people, Trump now says there shouldn't be public hearings. And after Sondland changed his testimony he now 'hardly knows the gentleman' who he appointed to be ambassador after he donated 1 million to Trumps campaign. The cascade of 'defense' is becoming quite predictable.
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it won’t be too long before he ‘hardly knows’ Giuliani too i bet. 
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It is kind of weird how literally everything Trump touches turns to disgusting, swampy corruption. Even he should just by accident sometimes be not corrupt.
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On November 09 2019 02:56 Simberto wrote:
It is kind of weird how literally everything Trump touches turns to disgusting, swampy corruption. Even he should just by accident sometimes be not corrupt.
It is not weird that vultures and every kind of lawless chumps flock around someone that has power, and no sense of shame or legality.
Trump still being in that kind of position of power, with his unique set of skills while being dumb as a brick and nearly illiterate, is what surprises me. He gets "abused" in the sense that he is not even able to tell that he might be in trouble if he listens to every idiot in the room. Even in this case, Giuliani and others are feeding him lots of bullshit that will please him, because they had an agenda behind, and he's just blindly going with it.
Usually, lasting criminal masterminds are exactly that. Smart. Not dumb. Can't get my head around it. That the rest of the scum gravitates around him does not surprise me.
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To be "fair" to Trump, I'm not sure he "knows" anyone. I think he perceives other humans purely as whether they help him right now (good) or don't help him right now (bad). It's hard to "know" anybody when that's how you perceive others.
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