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Vivax
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+ Show Spoiler + Russia’s debt ratio is one of the lowest in the world at 19.48% of its GDP. Russia is the ninth least indebted country in the world. Russia’s debt is currently at a total of over 14 billion руб ($216 billion USD). Most of Russia’s external debt is private. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Ben...
Canada3485 Posts
edit: Holy shit. Remember that Turkish cleric guy that has permanent residency in the US that Michael Flynn tried to get kidnapped and sent to Turkey on behalf of Erdogan? Rudy tried to talk Trump into sending that dude to Turkey, but was talked out of it by other officials after initially being receptive to the idea and asking those around him why it would be a big deal to do so. I think Rudy might be in some big trouble you guys. This article doesn't paint a particularly flattering picture of Trump either. He apparently referred to Erdogan as "his friend". Giuliani pressed Trump to eject Muslim cleric from U.S., a top priority of Turkish president, former officials say Rudolph W. Giuliani privately urged President Trump in 2017 to extradite a Turkish cleric living in exile in the United States, a top priority of Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, according to multiple former administration officials familiar with the discussions. Giuliani, a Trump ally who later became the president’s personal attorney, repeatedly argued to Trump that the U.S. government should eject Fethullah Gulen from the country, according to the former officials, who spoke on the condition on anonymity to describe private conversations. Turkey has demanded that the United States turn over Gulen, a permanent U.S. resident who lives in Pennsylvania, to stand trial on charges of plotting a 2016 coup attempt against Erdogan. Gulen has denied involvement in the plot. Giuliani is now under scrutiny for his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate Trump’s political rivals. His earlier attempts to persuade the president to turn over the Turkish cleric represent another instance in which he appears to have been pushing a shadow foreign policy from his perch outside government. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Yeah and that's why Republicans always win, they are willing to fight harder for what they believe in | ||
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Introvert
United States4999 Posts
This debate was ok for everyone, except maybe Steyer, who was barely there. It contained the usual insanity, but they actually went after each other and everyone had some good moments. I still don't see the strength people see in Warren, and I feel like overall she just kinda toiled through people going after her (something new). She is still the media's chosen one though, so if she relies on them instead of learning how to handle it she could get smacked next November. Biden still can't get past like sentence three. And Bernie still exists. Edit: Booker's ending was alright actually, but then again I'm a sucker for references to the Founders. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12475 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12475 Posts
On October 16 2019 12:43 JimmiC wrote: AOC endorsing anybody but Sanders would have been big. This is pretty expected, might hurt warren a bit I cant imagine any AOC supporter alao supports Biden so mo move there. Heck it might help Biden for the Dems that find AOC scary. There's a decent crowd of liberals who like AOC but not Sanders, future of the democratic party, the squad, and so on. The best political move for her isn't to endorse him, the fact that she does shows ideological commitment, especially right now when Sanders isn't doing very well in the polls. This is a good development, I wasn't taking it for granted. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10910 Posts
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semantics
10040 Posts
On October 16 2019 01:33 Mohdoo wrote: "But if a lion is right to lack sympathy for a gazelle, why should I be shamed for lacking sympathy for the poor?" - things people actually believe Is this a low key Mussolini quote? I know lions are a whole thing in some facist circles Edit:appears not to be. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8267 Posts
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PoulsenB
Poland7744 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:07 Excludos wrote: With the recent situation in Poland, and America's right wing politicians often working towards the same goal, I have to ask: What is the deal with not wanting kids to have sex-ed? I can not for a second believe the politicians are so naive as to think it won't result in teenage pregnancies and rampant STDs. Is this some weird attempt at controlling the population through epidemics that they themselves have caused? I just can't wrap my head around it. Sexual education is satan's work that teaches kindergarteners to masturbate and turns kids gay and trans, didn't you know? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11912 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:21 PoulsenB wrote: Sexual education is satan's work that teaches kindergarteners to masturbate and turns kids gay and trans, didn't you know? Yeah, usually the whole thing is based on religion. It might also have something to do with wanting to have lots of strong aryan children for the next generation to send to war against the evil muslims and jews. | ||
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:21 PoulsenB wrote: Sexual education is satan's work that teaches kindergarteners to masturbate and turns kids gay and trans, didn't you know? Can't tell if that is satire or actual beliefs. | ||
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Sent.
Poland9318 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:07 Excludos wrote: With the recent situation in Poland, and America's right wing politicians often working towards the same goal, I have to ask: What is the deal with not wanting kids to have sex-ed? I can not for a second believe the politicians are so naive as to think it won't result in teenage pregnancies and rampant STDs. Is this some weird attempt at controlling the population through epidemics that they themselves have caused? I just can't wrap my head around it. Most of the right isn't against sex education in general, but against sex-ed in the form desired by the left, which is in the right's view inapprioriate (e.g. teaching kids about masturbation too early) or not actually about sex-ed (e.g. transgender stuff). There are also a lot of right wing politicians claiming teen pregnancy is more common in countries with that kind of sex education, e.g. the rate is supposed to be higher in the UK than Poland. I didn't verify if that's true. | ||
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PoulsenB
Poland7744 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:49 Dangermousecatdog wrote: Can't tell if that is satire or actual beliefs. My post was written in jest, obviously, however there are people in Poland that genuinely follow this line on thinking. Anything connected to reproduction that is not rubber-stamped by the church should be banned: birth control, abortion, sexual education, LGBT rights, challenging traditional gender roles etc. The dark irony here is that the same people rarely care about children once they exit the womb, or about wellbeing of groups such as single moms, or parents taking care of disabled children. | ||
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Sbrubbles
Brazil5776 Posts
On October 16 2019 22:07 Excludos wrote: With the recent situation in Poland, and America's right wing politicians often working towards the same goal, I have to ask: What is the deal with not wanting kids to have sex-ed? I can not for a second believe the politicians are so naive as to think it won't result in teenage pregnancies and rampant STDs. Is this some weird attempt at controlling the population through epidemics that they themselves have caused? I just can't wrap my head around it. Their "preferred" birth control and STD prevention is abstinence until marriage. Sex ed of any kind goes against this. Yes, it's nonsense, but it's not difficult to wrap around. | ||
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Excludos
Norway8267 Posts
On October 16 2019 23:08 Sbrubbles wrote: Their "preferred" birth control and STD prevention is abstinence until marriage. Sex ed of any kind goes against this. Yes, it's nonsense, but it's not difficult to wrap around. It's difficult to wrap ones head around exactly because it's nonsense. I understand some of the uneducated masses might have this belief, but I don't believe for a second that a reasonable educated politician actually thinks it works this way, prompting me to believe in an ulterior motive. Tho I guess that motive could just be catering to the masses.. | ||
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