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On October 16 2019 23:56 Excludos wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2019 23:08 Sbrubbles wrote:On October 16 2019 22:07 Excludos wrote:
With the recent situation in Poland, and America's right wing politicians often working towards the same goal, I have to ask: What is the deal with not wanting kids to have sex-ed? I can not for a second believe the politicians are so naive as to think it won't result in teenage pregnancies and rampant STDs. Is this some weird attempt at controlling the population through epidemics that they themselves have caused? I just can't wrap my head around it. Their "preferred" birth control and STD prevention is abstinence until marriage. Sex ed of any kind goes against this. Yes, it's nonsense, but it's not difficult to wrap around. It's difficult to wrap ones head around exactly because it's nonsense. I understand some of the uneducated masses might have this belief, but I don't believe for a second that a reasonable educated politician actually thinks it works this way, prompting me to believe in an ulterior motive. Tho I guess that motive could just be catering to the masses..
We had a politician in Poland who was a professor of biology (dendrology to be exact) an he still denied evolution was a thing (he was a young earth creationist). Education doesn't make one immune to ideological or religious bias.
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Another associate of Rudy has been arrested. That makes a total of four. Giuliani, of course, claims to have no knowledge of what these men were doing.
I dunno about you guys, but it sure seems like Rudy was into some bad shit. Every day seems to be a new thing popping up that he is either involved in himself or is directly adjacent to, and every one of these things so far has been at least mildly corrupt.
Another man is arrested in probe of Giuliani associates
A Florida man wanted in a campaign finance case involving associates of Rudy Giuliani is in federal custody after flying Wednesday to Kennedy Airport in New York City to turn himself in, federal authorities said.
David Correia, 44, was named in an indictment with two Giuliani associates and another man arrested last week on charges they made illegal contributions to politicians and a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump. Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, is Trump’s personal lawyer.
All the other defendants in the case were already in custody.
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The Italian mafia is renowned for keeping crime rates low back then when they had a monopoly on it.
Source: Am Italian.
On a more serious note. Does anyone have any idea what this Giuliani stuff is about. I don't.
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On October 17 2019 01:20 Vivax wrote:
The Italian mafia is renowned for keeping crime rates low back then when they had a monopoly on it.
Source: Am Italian.
On a more serious note. Does anyone have any idea what this Giuliani stuff is about. I don't.
The gist of it is that these guys were involved in large, potentially illegal campaign donations and lobbying efforts with money from sketchy sources. The intent of the lobbying was to remove Ambassador Yovanovitch, who testified last week, at the request of a Ukrainian official. The two most prominent dudes arrested had ties to both Russia and Ukraine (and at least one oligarch from what I understand), and were involved in rather questionable business that Giuliani was also potentially in on. They've been arrested on campaign finance violations essentially. Though it isn't completely clear yet, what it sounds like happened is that neither of the two main dudes, Parnas and Fruman, had made campaign donations ever before other than one of them did in 2016 for Trump, and then out of nowhere both started making very large donations to PACs and Republican campaigns to gain influence in the Republican Party. The suspicion is that they were being used to funnel in money from foreign sources to donate to Republican candidates/PACs, and push for agendas friendly to foreign powers.
At least one former Republican congressperson, Pete Sessions, has been ensnared in this whole debacle.
edit: This other AP article kinda sums it up well:
Arrest of Giuliani associates ensnares ‘Congressman 1’
The indictment was made public Thursday following the arrest of two Florida businessmen with ties to Giuliani. It alleges that Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman leveraged a flurry of GOP political donations in a campaign to force Yovanovitch’s removal, an effort prosecutors say was aided by laundered foreign money.
By Friday, other GOP candidates who received money pledged to donate or return contributions from Parnas and Fruman, including Kentucky Rep. Andy Barr and Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, whose spokeswoman said he would return $50,000.
Parnas and Fruman’s outsized political giving allowed the two relatively unknown entrepreneurs to quickly win access to the highest levels of the Republican Party — including face-to-face meetings with Trump at the White House and Mar-a-Lago.
On May 9, 2018, Parnas posted a photo of himself and his business partner David Correia with Sessions in his Capitol Hill office, with the caption “Hard at work !!”
Later that same day, Sessions sent a letter to U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo seeking Yovanovitch’s dismissal because he had “notice of concrete evidence” that she had “spoken privately and repeatedly about her disdain for the current Administration.”
Campaign finance records show Parnas and Fruman later contributed $2,700 apiece to Session’s campaign, the maximum allowed individual contribution.
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Poor Trump, so unlucky that his personal lawyers keep turning out to be criminals. Wonder how that keeps happening.
I like that even Bolton went Hell No on this thing. I guess Trumps tweet that Bolton was holding him back was correct after all. Though if he knew that it was bad, he could have spoken up...
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Man so much for impeachment, Nancy Pelosi just cancelled it.
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On October 17 2019 03:48 zenist wrote:
Man so much for impeachment, Nancy Pelosi just cancelled it.
Not seeing anything confirming this..
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It’s a false equivalence between her stating that she sees no reason to hold a formal full House impeachment vote and the ongoing committee based investigation already taking place. Republicans desperately want subpoena power from a full House vote.
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Fox is running about Pelosi not humouring the Republicans by having a vote. So that's where he got it from.
Its fake
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On October 17 2019 04:21 Gorsameth wrote:
Fox is running about Pelosi not humouring the Republicans by having a vote. So that's where he got it from.
Its fake
oh. good lord. that's a paddlin'
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They don't need a vote to have an inquiry and investigation. Republicans are suddenly bemoaning how Democrats aren't playing nice by pointing to them not holding a vote that doesn't exist. Republicans are also well-known for wanting frequent and fair opportunities to vote, so it just makes sense that they'd complain now.
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Friend forwarded this to me and I saw it again on CNN website. Anyone have any thoughts on the wording? Seems like he is almost begging for Turkey to stop slaughtering people because he's done "some hard work solving problems."
qPq?
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On October 17 2019 07:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Friend forwarded this to me and I saw it again on CNN website. Anyone have any thoughts on the wording? Seems like he is almost begging for Turkey to stop slaughtering people because he's done "some hard work solving problems." qPq? https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161
The pretty please approach to diplomacy. I like it
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On October 17 2019 07:24 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote:Friend forwarded this to me and I saw it again on CNN website. Anyone have any thoughts on the wording? Seems like he is almost begging for Turkey to stop slaughtering people because he's done "some hard work solving problems." qPq? + Show Spoiler +https://twitter.com/trish_regan/status/1184559361638748161
'Finally the US will be respected again' was one of his slogans
Then you look at this letter.
Today he's saying the current situation is 'strategically brilliant'.
However, US efforts to restore some leverage in the region in the wake of the hasty retreat of its troops were undermined by the president’s comments on Wednesday, during a visit by the Italian president, Sergio Mattarella.
“I view the situation on the Turkish border with Syria to be, for the United States, strategically brilliant,” Trump said. “Our soldiers are out of there, they’re totally safe.”
The claim was untrue. There are reported to be hundreds of US troops still in the border area, where they have come under fire from Turkish-backed forces. The president seemed unaware or in denial of the precarious and volatile situation in the region for US troops and the Kurdish inhabitants.
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And to show how strategically brilliant it is, he's now making sure congress doesn't know how brilliant it by not informing them anymore, after a meeting on Syria went wrong and he started cursing at Pelosi
Mr Trump "was insulting, particularly to the speaker," Mr Schumer said. "He called her a third-rate politician."
"This was not a dialogue. It was sort of a diatribe," he continued. "Not focused on the facts, particularly the facts about how to contain Isis."
House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said the Democratic leaders were "deeply offended" by the president's comments and walked out of the meeting.
Ms Pelosi also announced the White House had cancelled a classified briefing scheduled for Thursday with House members about the latest developments in Syria.
She said scrapping the meeting prevents Congress from learning about “the dangerous situation” caused by Mr Trump’s withdrawal of troops in the region. source
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That letter is the most castrated thing I have ever read.
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I was 99% sure that letter was fake when I first saw it. We truly live in the weirdest timeline
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On October 17 2019 09:42 Sbrubbles wrote:
I was 99% sure that letter was fake when I first saw it. We truly live in the weirdest timeline
It’s fucking real?
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Fox Business' reporters asked the White House, and it is indeed real (or they were lied to; anything is possible with this White House).
You just don't understand. Trump is writing terrible letters to foreign leaders to troll the libs.
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