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micronesia
United States24813 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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IyMoon
United States1249 Posts
On June 14 2019 09:02 JimmiC wrote: I'm very interested in who is next. I thought Trump loved her angry ways. What is the record for most Press secretary's in a term? odds are he just never appoints anyone | ||
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Starlightsun
United States1405 Posts
On June 13 2019 19:27 Silvanel wrote: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-48619771 More tankers hit around the Gulf. Iran playing tough? US wanting war with Iran? Third side (Saudis?) wanting to push US to war?. Makes zero sense for Iran to do this. They were Japanese tankers and Shinzo Abe was visiting Iran at the time. Probably Saudis, Israelis, US pushing for war. | ||
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
On June 14 2019 04:38 Dangermousecatdog wrote: China will become the leading economic power with the next 20 years, if it isn't already. There is simply no way for USA to prevent that even at the cost of USA gutting itself. I do not cheer China's authoritarian bent, but nor do I cheer Trump's actions and policies regarding China as it seems to be entirely the wrong actions to protect the value of liberty. USA's military has nothing to do with anything. I don’t particularly like it either, I’m no big fan of China and their way of doing things, equally the Chinese aren’t doing anything that’s particularly outlying vs other states. The obvious counter to this is actual multilateralism and cooperation with like-minded states for the betterment of humanity As opposed to being the world’s pre-eminent power and trying to pull the ladder up whenever someone else might be threatening your place at the top of things. You’ve been dictating things for half a century (or more) disadvantaging the rest of the world when it suits your interests, but oh China are competitive and free trade is bad. I’d happily stomach a moral stance if it extended to the likes of the Saudis, but it mystifyingly doesn’t, for reasons I’ll facetiously pretend not to understand. The US’ current posturing just smacks of the British populace nostalgising over empire and complete impossibilities rather than just building on cooperation with our neighbours | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27478 Posts
It’s not an anti-US, or a pro-China thing at all. There will always be winners and loses given current systems, the US, or the UK with Brexit just shift all of the blame for the plight of the losers on external factors rather than acknowledge the reality of how things work. You can’t simultaneously have a resurgent manufacturing base on Western wages while enjoying the lower costs of cheaper outsourced manufacturing at a consumer level, no amounts of tariffs can redress this. You can’t get all of the plus sides of globalisation in this sense with none of the negatives, it can’t be done. Politicians continually promise it can, if cannot. Votes cling to these aspirational ideas that are absolutely not deliverable | ||
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KwarK
United States44448 Posts
I don't suppose they're in any hurry to replace her given her main job responsibility was not holding press briefings. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14220 Posts
On June 14 2019 11:41 KwarK wrote: We're now 94 days from the last White House press briefing, a record, and without a press secretary. The previous record was 42 days, set by Sarah Sanders. Before that the longest it had been was 41 days, also set by Sarah Sanders. The 4th longest period without a press briefing was 29 days. That was back when Sarah Sanders was the press secretary. I don't suppose they're in any hurry to replace her given her main job responsibility was not holding press briefings. People were joking about measuring tenue in mooches but really they should tangent that in how many press conferences they made. Sarah sanders might have left months ago and nobody noticed beacuse they just didn't do press breifings anymore at the white house. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On June 14 2019 11:50 Sermokala wrote: People were joking about measuring tenue in mooches but really they should tangent that in how many press conferences they made. Sarah sanders might have left months ago and nobody noticed beacuse they just didn't do press breifings anymore at the white house. Why bother doing them if you're Trump? | ||
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iPlaY.NettleS
Australia4462 Posts
On June 14 2019 11:23 Wombat_NI wrote: You can’t simultaneously have a resurgent manufacturing base on Western wages while enjoying the lower costs of cheaper outsourced manufacturing at a consumer level, no amounts of tariffs can redress this. New Balance has factories in New England and those shoes are often cheaper than Nike offerings so the main driver in many cases is corporate greed, sadly. | ||
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
On June 14 2019 11:41 KwarK wrote: We're now 94 days from the last White House press briefing, a record, and without a press secretary. The previous record was 42 days, set by Sarah Sanders. Before that the longest it had been was 41 days, also set by Sarah Sanders. The 4th longest period without a press briefing was 29 days. That was back when Sarah Sanders was the press secretary. I don't suppose they're in any hurry to replace her given her main job responsibility was not holding press briefings. hahaha you had me with the 4th one. Kind of interesting to choose to leave a job where you don't actually have to do said job. Now for Trump to appoint Jacob Wohl or Alex Jones as replacement 'acting' press secretary. | ||
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Silvanel
Poland4769 Posts
On June 14 2019 10:07 Starlightsun wrote: Makes zero sense for Iran to do this. They were Japanese tankers and Shinzo Abe was visiting Iran at the time. Probably Saudis, Israelis, US pushing for war. I didn't know that. In that case it looks much more like Saudis. The "thats what You get for siding with Iran" vibe. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9256 Posts
On June 14 2019 10:07 Starlightsun wrote: Makes zero sense for Iran to do this. They were Japanese tankers and Shinzo Abe was visiting Iran at the time. Probably Saudis, Israelis, US pushing for war. Pompeo's recent statements sure make the US look like the main suspect, it's 'they hate our freedom' all over again + Show Spoiler + Also, his 'evidence' is directly contradicted by the operator of the Japanese ship: The Japanese ship operator of one of two oil tankers attacked near the Strait of Hormuz on Thursday said that sailors on board its vessel, the Kokuka Courageous, saw "flying objects" just before the attack, suggesting the tanker wasn't damaged by mines. That account contradicts what the U.S. military has said as it released a video it says shows Iranian forces removing an unexploded limpet mine from one of the two ships in the suspected attack. Speaking at a news conference in Tokyo, Yutaka Katada, president of Kokuka Sangyo Co, said he believes the flying objects seen by the sailors could be bullets, and denied possibility of mines or torpedoes because the damages were above the ship's waterline. He called reports of mine attack "false." https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On June 14 2019 20:48 Dan HH wrote: Pompeo's recent statements sure make the US look like the main suspect, it's 'they hate our freedom' all over again + Show Spoiler + Also, his 'evidence' is directly contradicted by the operator of the Japanese ship: https://japantoday.com/category/national/Ship-operator-says-sailors-saw-'flying-objects'-just-before-attack I mean the waterline thing makes it seem pretty undeniable that the US is lying? There's basically no way for that to happen and such obvious lying can only be because the truth is worse imo. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22703 Posts
And when things started to improved you step out of a de-escalation agreement and start talking aggression again. sigh. | ||
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farvacola
United States18876 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24507 Posts
On June 14 2019 22:26 farvacola wrote: Seems like the fix for war is in, let’s see if folks are actually willing to stand up to warhawks this time. Unless Barbara Lee was shading the sh*t out of Albright when she said Your lifetime of service inspires me and so many others to keep working for justice and peace. I wouldn't get my hopes up. | ||
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