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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 21:40 GMT
#26701
My research indicates that US Postal Service do ship out internationally, but does not appear to recieve internationally. US Postal Service easy to mail large amounts of drugs. US biggest exporter of drugs in the world confirmed.

The kids are dying? All the young people?
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:45:08
April 16 2019 21:42 GMT
#26702
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way. It teaches them to love their country. Except the schools with majority minority populations, they don't get eagles because they can't afford to raise them.
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9089 Posts
April 16 2019 21:46 GMT
#26703
On April 17 2019 06:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way.

iirc Netherlands tried that already and the eagles lost to the drones, avians will not be good allies in the war against machines
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 16 2019 21:46 GMT
#26704
On April 17 2019 06:42 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way. It teaches them to love their country. Except the schools with majority minority populations, they don't get eagles because they can't afford to raise them.

Makes sense, yeah. I think this is the best theory yet. Shit. Donald's like a fox.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:48:33
April 16 2019 21:48 GMT
#26705
Free ipads and college tuition sounds like a bigger government to control everything. First they get free college tuition, then they control your toilets. A cover for every little piece of control socialists have wanted for more than a century?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24446 Posts
April 16 2019 21:48 GMT
#26706
Bigger government is fine if it involves patriotic symbols like bald eagles though surely?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 21:50 GMT
#26707
On April 17 2019 06:48 Wombat_NI wrote:
Bigger government is fine if it involves patriotic symbols like bald eagles though surely?
Depends if you one of those self hating white people?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24446 Posts
April 16 2019 21:52 GMT
#26708
On April 17 2019 06:50 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:48 Wombat_NI wrote:
Bigger government is fine if it involves patriotic symbols like bald eagles though surely?
Depends if you one of those self hating white people?

I’m more generally self-hating although my ethnicity doesn’t come into it, does that count?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 21:53 GMT
#26709
On April 17 2019 06:46 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:42 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way.

iirc Netherlands tried that already and the eagles lost to the drones, avians will not be good allies in the war against machines

OMG I can't beleive this is actually true.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/12/the_eagle_has_been_grounded/
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:56:42
April 16 2019 21:53 GMT
#26710
On April 17 2019 06:48 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Free ipads and college tuition sounds like a bigger government to control everything. First they get free college tuition, then they control your toilets. A cover for every little piece of control socialists have wanted for more than a century?

Its only one school, who raises and supports the best anti-immigrant-drugs Eagle for that year. It is to teach them about service and that immigrants bring drugs into the country, by drone. It isn't a hand out, it is a reward for merit to those non-minority students to earned it.

On April 17 2019 06:46 Dan HH wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:42 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way.

iirc Netherlands tried that already and the eagles lost to the drones, avians will not be good allies in the war against machines


First off, those were not bald Eagles, did not have genetic modifications and were not part of a massive propaganda program that really doesn't make any sense if you think about it. But forget that, the immigrants have always used drones to ship drugs from eastasia...I mean Mexico.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24446 Posts
April 16 2019 21:55 GMT
#26711
On April 17 2019 06:53 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:46 Dan HH wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:42 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:38 NewSunshine wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?

Ok, so the wall is filled with bald eagles, genetically modified to hunt only drones and pose. They are also immune to heroin and eat it when they catch the drug drone. Each school across America sponsors one and the school who's eagle gets the most immigrant drugs gets free Ipads and college tuition. The kids name the Eagle and get a day off when it passes way.

iirc Netherlands tried that already and the eagles lost to the drones, avians will not be good allies in the war against machines

OMG I can't beleive this is actually true.

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2017/12/12/the_eagle_has_been_grounded/

It’s not a real article without crowbarred puns of a high quality.

Perhaps the only way to defeat drones is with more drones and the future will be decided by drone jockeys?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 22:01:47
April 16 2019 21:56 GMT
#26712
On April 17 2019 06:52 Wombat_NI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:50 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:48 Wombat_NI wrote:
Bigger government is fine if it involves patriotic symbols like bald eagles though surely?
Depends if you one of those self hating white people?

I’m more generally self-hating although my ethnicity doesn’t come into it, does that count?

Don't worry, I'll rebrand my words:

Depends if you one of those self hating western culture people?

The comments for the article are good read also.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 16 2019 22:05 GMT
#26713
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42265 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 22:21:26
April 16 2019 22:11 GMT
#26714
I think immigrants and smugglers may be confused in our friend’s head. An immigrant crosses the border once and then stays on this side, finding work, living their life. A smuggler makes a living from crossing the border over and over. If I were a cartel boss I wouldn’t be giving people trying to immigrate drugs to carry, that’d be nuts. It’s their first time trying to cross the border and you’re gonna let them carry 5kg of your cocaine. Really? What if they get lost? They probably don’t even speak English. And how do you even know them? What if they just make a run for it?

What you need is a smuggler. You wouldn’t trust some random with all your drugs.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 22:11 GMT
#26715
Social housing. What a crazy idea. What will those social democrats think of next?
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland24446 Posts
April 16 2019 22:16 GMT
#26716
On April 17 2019 07:05 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:17 Wombat_NI wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:15 JimmiC wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:06 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:05 Yurie wrote:
On April 17 2019 04:45 Plansix wrote:
True. And the rising cost of insulin is the result of over 20 years of absentee congress and a pharmaceutical industry that has zero fear of repercussions of jacking prices. And before someone says it, the free market won’t solve this problem because no one really wants to see how efficiency is obtained when making critical drugs like insulin. Hint: People die from cheaply made insulin.


Something as basic as Metformin seems to be ~5 times as expensive for the daily dose in the US compared to Sweden. Don't really see why that should be.

Because they can charge more. What are the consumers gonna do? Not buy medicine?

This is the huge problem and why I think mandatory things that everyone needs should be government run. And thinks that people can chose to do or not do should be privately run.

Also pretty sure this new guy talking crazy is just trollin. That he joined April 2019 is a pretty good sign.

Can we part nationalise the housing market while we’re At it?


Honestly that is so crazy it just might work. Obviously not in the USA but I wonder if another country would try it. I think people love customization to much to ever go for it mind you. Would be interesting in a social democracy. Maybe have all the project managers be government but all the trades and sub trades still be private?

I dispute the crazy part :p

The Irish government in theory had a shot to at least try it, to some degree anyway. They ended up owning a lot of assets when they bailed out the banking sector.

Unfortunately they (under some duress as well it must be add) they sold a lot of those bad assets under their real value, which completely unpredictably a bunch of vulture capital bought up.

Healthcare is pretty bad as well, I think property is a complete mess, both ownership and rental and needs something radical.

It’s a sector unlike many others where consumer choice is way more constrained by necessity, plus that lack of choice means you don’t see much innovation.

What innovation we have seen in terms of your AirBnBs of the world are actively bad in other ways too.

If you can just short term let your property to wealthy tourists, why would you rent anything long term to people who want to actually live there?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Sbrubbles
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil5776 Posts
April 16 2019 22:23 GMT
#26717
On April 17 2019 07:11 KwarK wrote:
I think immigrants and smugglers may be confused in our friend’s head. An immigrant crosses the border once and then stays on this side, finding work, living their life. A smuggler makes a living from crossing the border over and over. If I were a cartel boss I wouldn’t be giving people trying to immigrate drugs to carry, that’d be nuts. It’s their first time trying to cross the border and you’re gonna let them carry 5k of your cocaine. Really? What if they get lost? They probably don’t even speak English. And how do you even know them? What if they just make a run for it?

What you need is a smuggler. You wouldn’t trust some random with all your drugs.


Actually he's got things right. Immigrants are bringing in the drugs, so you need an increasing number of immigrants to supply the demand for drugs. And who defends opening the borders? That's right, the Democratic party is responsible for America's illegal drugs.
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semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 22:32:51
April 16 2019 22:26 GMT
#26718
We don't need to socialize housing just make it so owning multiple houses is really burdensome and get it so that most houses will depreciate in value.

Outside of that zoning laws might need to be tweaked depending on the are, even then it might just be excemptions for lower income targeted hosuing.

That can be done if all you do is request any house sold to meet modern code not be grandfathered in. Discouraging multi house ownership is a bit more difficult but a vacantcy tax might work.

Just make housing something worth more to live in than to own. It would suck for those who like money but I cant see how it would discourage new units being built.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42265 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 22:32:52
April 16 2019 22:29 GMT
#26719
On April 17 2019 07:23 Sbrubbles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 07:11 KwarK wrote:
I think immigrants and smugglers may be confused in our friend’s head. An immigrant crosses the border once and then stays on this side, finding work, living their life. A smuggler makes a living from crossing the border over and over. If I were a cartel boss I wouldn’t be giving people trying to immigrate drugs to carry, that’d be nuts. It’s their first time trying to cross the border and you’re gonna let them carry 5k of your cocaine. Really? What if they get lost? They probably don’t even speak English. And how do you even know them? What if they just make a run for it?

What you need is a smuggler. You wouldn’t trust some random with all your drugs.


Actually he's got things right. Immigrants are bringing in the drugs, so you need an increasing number of immigrants to supply the demand for drugs. And who defends opening the borders? That's right, the Democratic party is responsible for America's illegal drugs.

Could you elaborate on how this works in your head? Is it like hitch hiking? Do the cartels just flag down people who are heading in the right direction and give them hundreds of thousands of dollars of drugs with instructions to drop them off at a distribution center on the other side of the border?

Because I can think of few worse places to hide smuggled drugs than in the backpack of a first time illegal border crosser. At the very least surely you’d want someone who works for the cartel, which most people dreaming of becoming fruit pickers in California aren’t.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
April 16 2019 22:30 GMT
#26720
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