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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:16:11
April 16 2019 21:15 GMT
#26681
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WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
April 16 2019 21:17 GMT
#26682
On April 17 2019 06:15 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 05:06 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:05 Yurie wrote:
On April 17 2019 04:45 Plansix wrote:
True. And the rising cost of insulin is the result of over 20 years of absentee congress and a pharmaceutical industry that has zero fear of repercussions of jacking prices. And before someone says it, the free market won’t solve this problem because no one really wants to see how efficiency is obtained when making critical drugs like insulin. Hint: People die from cheaply made insulin.


Something as basic as Metformin seems to be ~5 times as expensive for the daily dose in the US compared to Sweden. Don't really see why that should be.

Because they can charge more. What are the consumers gonna do? Not buy medicine?

This is the huge problem and why I think mandatory things that everyone needs should be government run. And thinks that people can chose to do or not do should be privately run.

Also pretty sure this new guy talking crazy is just trollin. That he joined April 2019 is a pretty good sign.

Can we part nationalise the housing market while we’re At it?
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Embryo923
Profile Joined April 2019
29 Posts
April 16 2019 21:20 GMT
#26683
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42777 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:22:27
April 16 2019 21:21 GMT
#26684
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through. You'd ideally want one person on each side of the border who stays on their side of the border with the drugs travelling alongside regular goods imported legally. No need to smuggle a person in alongside the drugs, that's just adding complexity and you then need to smuggle the person back out again to do the next shipment.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

So are the immigrants bringing the drugs or are the drugs being mailed? Or are the immigrants being mailed with the drugs?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 21:23 GMT
#26685
On April 17 2019 06:15 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 05:06 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:05 Yurie wrote:
On April 17 2019 04:45 Plansix wrote:
True. And the rising cost of insulin is the result of over 20 years of absentee congress and a pharmaceutical industry that has zero fear of repercussions of jacking prices. And before someone says it, the free market won’t solve this problem because no one really wants to see how efficiency is obtained when making critical drugs like insulin. Hint: People die from cheaply made insulin.


Something as basic as Metformin seems to be ~5 times as expensive for the daily dose in the US compared to Sweden. Don't really see why that should be.

Because they can charge more. What are the consumers gonna do? Not buy medicine?

This is the huge problem and why I think mandatory things that everyone needs should be government run. And thinks that people can chose to do or not do should be privately run.

Also pretty sure this new guy talking crazy is just trollin. That he joined April 2019 is a pretty good sign.

His debating style of deflection is quite similar to other posters so, it would be fair to say that's just his genuine debating style. In any case it is fair to say that the lack of consumer favoured regulation on the pharma industry in USA has resulted in complete lack of consumer power and a total free market failure. Free market model is only suitable when information and regulations is on the consumer side.
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
April 16 2019 21:23 GMT
#26686
On April 17 2019 06:21 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through. You'd ideally want one person on each side of the border who stays on their side of the border with the drugs travelling alongside regular goods imported legally. No need to smuggle a person in alongside the drugs, that's just adding complexity and you then need to smuggle the person back out again to do the next shipment.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

So are the immigrants bringing the drugs or are the drugs being mailed? Or are the immigrants being mailed with the drugs?

This is getting more complex all the time! My poor wee brain
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:24:21
April 16 2019 21:23 GMT
#26687
On April 17 2019 06:21 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through. You'd ideally want one person on each side of the border who stays on their side of the border with the drugs travelling alongside regular goods imported legally. No need to smuggle a person in alongside the drugs, that's just adding complexity and you then need to smuggle the person back out again to do the next shipment.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

So are the immigrants bringing the drugs or are the drugs being mailed? Or are the immigrants being mailed with the drugs?


No you don't get it man! There's no way a US Citizen would break the law! not for money. So you sneak someone across the boarder. Get them set up with a PO box. THEN you mail the drugs
Something witty
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42777 Posts
April 16 2019 21:26 GMT
#26688
On April 17 2019 06:23 IyMoon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:21 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through. You'd ideally want one person on each side of the border who stays on their side of the border with the drugs travelling alongside regular goods imported legally. No need to smuggle a person in alongside the drugs, that's just adding complexity and you then need to smuggle the person back out again to do the next shipment.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

So are the immigrants bringing the drugs or are the drugs being mailed? Or are the immigrants being mailed with the drugs?


No you don't get it man! There's no way a US Citizen would break the law! not for money. So you sneak someone across the boarder. Get them set up with a PO box. THEN you mail the drugs

Yes, but then no more immigrants are bringing drugs. Just the one guy who is already here. Presumably for the immigrants to be bringing drugs they have to be accompanied by the drugs during the act of immigration. If they're not physically crossing the border alongside the drugs I'm not really seeing how they're bringing them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
April 16 2019 21:28 GMT
#26689
I thought the US postal service was internal only.
IyMoon
Profile Joined April 2016
United States1249 Posts
April 16 2019 21:28 GMT
#26690
On April 17 2019 06:26 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:23 IyMoon wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:21 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through. You'd ideally want one person on each side of the border who stays on their side of the border with the drugs travelling alongside regular goods imported legally. No need to smuggle a person in alongside the drugs, that's just adding complexity and you then need to smuggle the person back out again to do the next shipment.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

So are the immigrants bringing the drugs or are the drugs being mailed? Or are the immigrants being mailed with the drugs?


No you don't get it man! There's no way a US Citizen would break the law! not for money. So you sneak someone across the boarder. Get them set up with a PO box. THEN you mail the drugs

Yes, but then no more immigrants are bringing drugs. Just the one guy who is already here. Presumably for the immigrants to be bringing drugs they have to be accompanied by the drugs during the act of immigration. If they're not physically crossing the border alongside the drugs I'm not really seeing how they're bringing them.


Bro, he already told you! the mail!
Something witty
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2019 21:29 GMT
#26691
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

The US postal service is going to deliver drugs shipped from Mexico? I understand that this is possible. But let be real, DOJ and the US postal service cracked that code and figured out how to spot package of heroin being shipped from drug country a long ass time ago.

Also, who the hell is shipping drugs to asylum seekers in the US? Why not just ship it to like, literally anyone else willing to make a few dollars? This plan is real bad.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 16 2019 21:29 GMT
#26692
On April 17 2019 06:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I thought the US postal service was internal only.

Don't shit all over this guy's dream of owning the libs with shit like details. It's not right.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2019 21:30 GMT
#26693
On April 17 2019 06:29 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:28 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
I thought the US postal service was internal only.

Don't shit all over this guy's dream of owning the libs with shit like details. It's not right.

I'm still trying to figure out how you buy US stamps in Mexico.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42777 Posts
April 16 2019 21:30 GMT
#26694
On April 17 2019 06:29 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

The US postal service is going to deliver drugs shipped from Mexico? I understand that this is possible. But let be real, DOJ and the US postal service cracked that code and figured out how to spot package of heroin being shipped from drug country a long ass time ago.

Also, who the hell is shipping drugs to asylum seekers in the US? Why not just ship it to like, literally anyone else willing to make a few dollars? This plan is real bad.

I still don’t follow how the immigrants are bringing the USPS drugs. Are they mailed in the same box or is USPS run by immigrants?
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
April 16 2019 21:33 GMT
#26695
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
April 16 2019 21:35 GMT
#26696
On April 17 2019 06:30 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:29 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

The US postal service is going to deliver drugs shipped from Mexico? I understand that this is possible. But let be real, DOJ and the US postal service cracked that code and figured out how to spot package of heroin being shipped from drug country a long ass time ago.

Also, who the hell is shipping drugs to asylum seekers in the US? Why not just ship it to like, literally anyone else willing to make a few dollars? This plan is real bad.

I still don’t follow how the immigrants are bringing the USPS drugs. Are they mailed in the same box or is USPS run by immigrants?

You know, I heard the folks in Mexico have been getting real good at curling up into a little ball. They'd fit into a cardboard box ezpz. Then they just keep the drugs where POW's would keep their watches, and it's foolproof.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:37:22
April 16 2019 21:35 GMT
#26697
On April 17 2019 06:30 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:29 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

The US postal service is going to deliver drugs shipped from Mexico? I understand that this is possible. But let be real, DOJ and the US postal service cracked that code and figured out how to spot package of heroin being shipped from drug country a long ass time ago.

Also, who the hell is shipping drugs to asylum seekers in the US? Why not just ship it to like, literally anyone else willing to make a few dollars? This plan is real bad.

I still don’t follow how the immigrants are bringing the USPS drugs. Are they mailed in the same box or is USPS run by immigrants?

So I think it starts out as a USPS truck carrying the drug that transforms into one of those food trucks, like GI Joe/Mask style part way through the trip. The immigrants man the truck and buy the food, to allow them to deal the drugs. Not really sure how the USPS truck travels across the border. Maybe it has a third form that is uses to impersonate asylum seekers? A triple changer.

On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25467 Posts
April 16 2019 21:37 GMT
#26698
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:30 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:29 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:20 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 06:11 KwarK wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:33 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 03:41 Plansix wrote:
The opioid crisis has seen no signs of stopping and can't seem to rise above the din of Trump's manufactured immigration crisis, better known as his reelection campaign.

Do you not realize the immigration problem is a major reason we have drugs in this country, that those people are the ones who bring this garbage here? It doesn't come from Canada, at least a very small percentage, if any. The kids that are dying are dying from heroin that comes from Mexico and South America.

An immigrant can't go back and bring in more heroin unless he first emigrates. You need to think this through.

You ever hear of the US Postal service? You know how easy it is to mail drugs? Large amounts of drugs? You didn't think that through, did you?

The US postal service is going to deliver drugs shipped from Mexico? I understand that this is possible. But let be real, DOJ and the US postal service cracked that code and figured out how to spot package of heroin being shipped from drug country a long ass time ago.

Also, who the hell is shipping drugs to asylum seekers in the US? Why not just ship it to like, literally anyone else willing to make a few dollars? This plan is real bad.

I still don’t follow how the immigrants are bringing the USPS drugs. Are they mailed in the same box or is USPS run by immigrants?

So I think it starts out as a USPS truck carrying the drug that transforms into one of those food trucks, like GI Joe/Mask style part way through the trip. The immigrants man the truck and buy the food, to allow them to deal the drugs. Not really sure how the USPS truck travels across the border. Maybe it has a third form that is uses to impersonate asylum seekers? A triple changer.

Good ideas there, even in the unlikely event they’re not absolutely true, would be good to add some fresh ideas to the Transformers franchise, I mean fuck sake some of them still turn into tape decks
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-04-16 21:38:36
April 16 2019 21:38 GMT
#26699
On April 17 2019 06:35 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 06:33 Wombat_NI wrote:
No you idiots the illegal immigrants worked off the books and sent money home to be legally invested in Amazon for them to subsequently pump into funding drones which are then subsequently used to fly drugs over the border and bypass the postal service altogether.

Pretty obvious really

Known immigrant lover Jeff Bezos, owner of the Post, is working with them to destroy America. Only The Donald can stop him and protect America from the invasion.

Ok ok, but, how does a wall stop all those drones flying over the border with the drugs?
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
April 16 2019 21:39 GMT
#26700
On April 17 2019 06:14 Embryo923 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2019 05:46 Plansix wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:43 Embryo923 wrote:
On April 17 2019 05:40 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
When you write utter garbage posts like that, I am not suprised you are banned from Artosis twitch chat lol. For one thing the opiates people are addicted to are entirely legal fda approved pharma products. For another heroin is smuggled through cargo.

Are you one of those self hating white people? You know the left just uses minorities for votes, they make them feel like they're inferior and need help and can't do anything themselves because they're "oppressed" which is complete bs and isn't true and that the only way they can live a good life is if they elect Democrats to create bigger government to control everything?

Are you saying that minority votes are somehow worth less than the votes of white Americans? Or that minorities are genetically predisposed to vote a specific way?

Why are you answering my question with a question, answer my question.

No. I really need you to answer why minorities voting for "the left" is bad and why you think they vote in a bloc?
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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