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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27269 Posts
On April 03 2019 23:25 JimmiC wrote: But the "come on mom everyone else is doing it" is a brilliant indisputable argument. You should keep your expectations low, especially for the President of the United states. What I do find funny about this line of reasoning (if we can even call it that) is that the whole point of electing Trump was that he was not a politician. Now when he fucks up like one, "all them do it" when he doesn't know wtf he's talking about "he's not a politician he couldn't know that". Well exactly, the flipping on things such as this from those who voted for him, at least in certain online groups etc I'm in would be funny if it wasn't so depressing. For some I think it's just a refusal to admit to buyer's remorse, for some others I think they just like the bullying side of him but previously just shrouded that in 'he's anti-establishment' crap. 'Other politicians do x' can be a fair observation on occasion, but it's a pretty bloody bad one to make about Mr 'Drain the Swamp' | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
This isn’t’ an excuse for folks who believe and double down on terrible things. But it something to be aware of the next time you seen a cable news show asking Trump supporters if they still back Trump, in public, on camera. It is good to think to yourself, “Why is the news network showing me this when they know what the response will be?” Edit: The post below articulates something important. Many voters wanted to punch Washington DC. Trump was just the fist. | ||
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Archeon
3272 Posts
On April 03 2019 23:31 Wombat_NI wrote: Well exactly, the flipping on things such as this from those who voted for him, at least in certain online groups etc I'm in would be funny if it wasn't so depressing. For some I think it's just a refusal to admit to buyer's remorse, for some others I think they just like the bullying side of him but previously just shrouded that in 'he's anti-establishment' crap. 'Other politicians do x' can be a fair observation on occasion, but it's a pretty bloody bad one to make about Mr 'Drain the Swamp' IIRC I read a stat during the election that said that ~40% of Hillary's voters would even vote Hillary if the situation in the country got significantly worse as a result. For Trump's it were close to 70%. Trump voters didn't vote him because they wanted a serious solution to complex problems anyways, most voted for him because they wanted a revolution, hated the establishment or felt left alone. There were obviously the conservatives who voted for him as well as the lesser of two evils from their point of view and the people who don't care about politics and were just in for the show. But generally speaking Trump's almost-majority is a very worrying verdict for the trust Americans put into their politicians. So yeah when they feel attacked some of them jump to really stupid arguments, because their main reason to vote for him was an emotional rejection of first the conservatives and then Hillary and what they stood for. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46279 Posts
https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/people-are-alarmed-by-trumps-latest-foray-into-science/?fbclid=IwAR016aUKPgjL27VqJiCzM2nRRY9aSy8sIR3QT6cghQRtpbr2eJos9kXA85Y In case anyone was curious, neither windmills nor air turbines cause cancer. Air does not cause cancer. Hearing windmill noises does not cause cancer. Being near a windmill does not cause cancer. I don't know why these are things that need to be fact-checked, but they have been fact-checked and they. do. not. cause. cancer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome?fbclid=IwAR3-Be-sc6AM-HU9LUevhdK63JkK0HiWyTvN9qW9uLOJlj7DBoaXNH-sBkQ | ||
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NewSunshine
United States5938 Posts
On April 04 2019 02:43 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: Donald Trump now claims that the noise from windmills causes cancer: https://www.iflscience.com/health-and-medicine/people-are-alarmed-by-trumps-latest-foray-into-science/?fbclid=IwAR016aUKPgjL27VqJiCzM2nRRY9aSy8sIR3QT6cghQRtpbr2eJos9kXA85Y In case anyone was curious, neither windmills nor air turbines cause cancer. Air does not cause cancer. Hearing windmill noises does not cause cancer. Being near a windmill does not cause cancer. I don't know why these are things that need to be fact-checked, but they have been fact-checked and they. do. not. cause. cancer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wind_turbine_syndrome?fbclid=IwAR3-Be-sc6AM-HU9LUevhdK63JkK0HiWyTvN9qW9uLOJlj7DBoaXNH-sBkQ There he goes, fighting that establishment, one law of nature at a time. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11952 Posts
Air does not cause cancer. Some types of air can cause cancer. For example, if there is a lot of radon in the air. However, "wind farms cause cancer" is obviously nonsense.(And luckily, not only obviously, but also testedly) Especially noise causing cancer. What would even be the mechanism for that? Air vibrations shaking lose atoms within the DNA? I hope we will soon hit peak antiscience. There is only so far you can go while ignoring reality. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Netherlands30548 Posts
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Excludos
Norway8278 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On April 04 2019 03:23 Simberto wrote: Some types of air can cause cancer. For example, if there is a lot of radon in the air. However, "wind farms cause cancer" is obviously nonsense.(And luckily, not only obviously, but also testedly) Especially noise causing cancer. What would even be the mechanism for that? Air vibrations shaking lose atoms within the DNA? I hope we will soon hit peak antiscience. There is only so far you can go while ignoring reality. lol, I really hope Trump voters think of this as their new checkmate. I could image Ben Shapiro saying this: "So you say we need clean air, so we need an EPA or whatever. Heh, (insert snide comment implying they don't support the existence of the EPA, but will never admit it). Then Trump tries to talk about how air can cause cancer, and suddenly the regressive left is crying about ignorance. Well, let me ask you...didn't you guys say we need the EPA because air can cause cancer? Meaning your own leftist cultural marxism regressive left ideology just proved your president right? And here you are, creating division in our country?" | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States46279 Posts
On April 04 2019 03:31 Excludos wrote: There you have it: Noise causes cancer. We should immediately get started on banning all guns Gun silencers cure cancer too, obviously. Checkmate! | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
On April 04 2019 03:24 Mohdoo wrote: Trump voters are like "And that's why I elected him! If scientists are wrong about climate change, why would they be right about cancer?" Dumb libs are gonna be walking around in lead suits so they can use their precious day power and not have electricity at night. /s | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On April 04 2019 04:54 JimmiC wrote: Some one needs to keep track of just the extra crazy lies. The counter has a bunch of not as silly ones. But like the "my father is german" "I had the biggest inauguration ever", "wind turbines cause cancer", "Mexico is going to pay for the wall" "I hire the bestest people". I'm sure I'm missing a bunch. "I did not call him Tim Apple, I said Cook very fast and very low, the microphone couldn't catch it." | ||
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Kyadytim
United States886 Posts
On April 04 2019 05:10 Nouar wrote: "I did not call him Tim Apple, I said Cook very fast and very low, the microphone couldn't catch it." There's also the "it wasn't raining during the inauguration" lie. | ||
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Velr
Switzerland10939 Posts
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ShambhalaWar
United States930 Posts
This is worth your time to watch, mostly because it's funny, but also because it's amazing. I'm reminded of some of my conversations in TL forums. User was warned for this post | ||
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Gahlo
United States35174 Posts
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WombaT
Northern Ireland27269 Posts
Regardless of political affiliation I hope, not just in the US but globally we can pull back from the increasingly polarised and ludicrous ‘post-truth’ world, re-establish some kind of vague level of consensus and move from there. I’m a complete politics nerd and I solely discuss it with RL friends, or latterly here. If you’d said to teen me that the tech would be there that everyone would be enfranchised in political debates I’d have laughed and thought it a ridiculous pipe dream, although something I would have welcomedZ I just don’t anymore, it’s absolutely insane to even dip one’s toes into. The world is simultaneously run by some Marxist cabal while corporate interests run the show, never mind other even more unsavoury views. Anyway ranting aside is this the face of things to come or can pandora’s Box be at least semi-closed again? | ||
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