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On March 24 2019 05:04 Gorgonoth wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2019 04:23 iamthedave wrote:On March 24 2019 02:01 KwarK wrote:
It's bizarre that the US President is currently twitter feuding with a dead war hero. Like that's just an objectively weird thing to be happening. If a decade ago someone had told you it would happen you'd have certainly had some questions about how we got to this point. Isn't it more bizarre that the Republicans are backing him while doing this? In all the grief Democrats have given him, nobody I've ever seen on the left has ever tried to denigrate McCain for what he did in service to his country. Yet the Republicans don't give a shit now Trump's laying in on his favourite target (one that can't hit back). It isn’t true that most or even a significant portion of Republicans are backing him on this . Many Republican officials like have reaffirmed their appreciation of McCain’s service after Trumps comments and some have challenged or criticized him directly. www.google.comwww.google.com
Sorry, I was imprecise. I know most of the GOP senators aren't comfortable with this. I meant the base are piling on McCain. Those are the ones I'd have thought wouldn't, given how resolutely the Republican base supports veterans and the like.
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On March 24 2019 07:28 iamthedave wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2019 05:04 Gorgonoth wrote:On March 24 2019 04:23 iamthedave wrote:On March 24 2019 02:01 KwarK wrote:
It's bizarre that the US President is currently twitter feuding with a dead war hero. Like that's just an objectively weird thing to be happening. If a decade ago someone had told you it would happen you'd have certainly had some questions about how we got to this point. Isn't it more bizarre that the Republicans are backing him while doing this? In all the grief Democrats have given him, nobody I've ever seen on the left has ever tried to denigrate McCain for what he did in service to his country. Yet the Republicans don't give a shit now Trump's laying in on his favourite target (one that can't hit back). It isn’t true that most or even a significant portion of Republicans are backing him on this . Many Republican officials like have reaffirmed their appreciation of McCain’s service after Trumps comments and some have challenged or criticized him directly. www.google.comwww.google.com Sorry, I was imprecise. I know most of the GOP senators aren't comfortable with this. I meant the base are piling on McCain. Those are the ones I'd have thought wouldn't, given how resolutely the Republican base supports veterans and the like.
Ah ok. Polling I've seen would definitely support the assertion that McCain's popularity within the GOP has lowered since pre-trump times. I don't know from what source you're making the claim that his base is piling on specifically after these most recent comments, but I do think many of his supporters haven't forgiven him for the ACA vote.
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On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird. trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001deeply sorry it’s from huffpo.
Now this is despicable. It's beyond the pale. This I can't abide. When are they finally going to pass a law prohibiting people from putting National Mall landmarks on t-shirts, soaps, tumblers, candles, and mugs at gift shops? In fact I bet Trump wasn't even the first to do this, just the first to get caught by our universally acclaimed and trusted sleuths at the Huffington Post. So who knows how widespread this really is. Gah. I can only imagine him sitting in the Oval Office wasting time personally drawing these pictures for t-shirts while he should be running the country. Good find.
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It feels like there should be different standards on what random gift shops do, and what the president of the US does. But hey, i also thought that maybe it is bad if the president lies more often than not when opening his mouth.
Actually, to me it seems obvious that the president should be held to a higher standard than almost any other person, given that he is supposed to be the best that a country has to offer. (I have similar opinions regarding the top politicians of any other country)
Clearly that view is not shared by everyone.
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On March 24 2019 15:52 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird. trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001deeply sorry it’s from huffpo. Now this is despicable. It's beyond the pale. This I can't abide. When are they finally going to pass a law prohibiting people from putting National Mall landmarks on t-shirts, soaps, tumblers, candles, and mugs at gift shops? In fact I bet Trump wasn't even the first to do this, just the first to get caught by our universally acclaimed and trusted sleuths at the Huffington Post. So who knows how widespread this really is. Gah. I can only imagine him sitting in the Oval Office wasting time personally drawing these pictures for t-shirts while he should be running the country. Good find.
if you’re going to sarcastically claim other presidents have done before it seems the least you could do is provide an example. and i assume you understand the wasting of his own time is clearly not the problem, or maybe you don’t. all around not a great post.
i specifically said i was bringing it up because it was hilarious, not because it was some groundbreaking new level of corruption, and even explicitly pondered whether it was corrupt or not (which again, if you can back up your claim with even one example, a bar so low even you may be able to reach it, i might be inclined to change my mind.) then i also apologized for it being from huffpo. be honest, did you even read the post? it wasn’t very long.
in more interesting news, the market took kind of a dump yesterday. is this because of the Fed?
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On March 24 2019 20:29 brian wrote:
in more interesting news, the market took kind of a dump yesterday. is this because of the Fed?
The Treasury yield curve inverted for the first time since 2007. The curve inverting has preceded every recession, although it does happen without a recession sometimes.
It's a good predictor of a recession in the next year or year and a half though so just in time for the democrats to take over and get blamed again?
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On March 24 2019 20:29 brian wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2019 15:52 oBlade wrote:On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird. trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001deeply sorry it’s from huffpo. Now this is despicable. It's beyond the pale. This I can't abide. When are they finally going to pass a law prohibiting people from putting National Mall landmarks on t-shirts, soaps, tumblers, candles, and mugs at gift shops? In fact I bet Trump wasn't even the first to do this, just the first to get caught by our universally acclaimed and trusted sleuths at the Huffington Post. So who knows how widespread this really is. Gah. I can only imagine him sitting in the Oval Office wasting time personally drawing these pictures for t-shirts while he should be running the country. Good find. if you’re going to sarcastically claim other presidents have done before it seems the least you could do is provide an example. and i assume you understand the wasting of his own time is clearly not the problem, or maybe you don’t. all around not a great post. i specifically said i was bringing it up because it was hilarious, not because it was some groundbreaking new level of corruption, and even explicitly pondered whether it was corrupt or not (which again, if you can back up your claim with even one example, a bar so low even you may be able to reach it, i might be inclined to change my mind.) then i also apologized for it being from huffpo. be honest, did you even read the post? it wasn’t very long. in more interesting news, the market took kind of a dump yesterday. is this because of the Fed?
My mistake, I apologize. I meant that to refer to a thousand other DC and tourism companies, not other presidents.
Time wasting not the problem? That'd be a huge issue for me. (What do you think of presidential golf?) I didn't elect someone to sit and fuck around with $30 t-shirt distractions. What I think you mean is it dawned on you the Trump Organization is huge and the president's obviously not in there choosing soap box designs between intelligence briefings just because his name's on the building. As his position already gives him one of the best soapboxes around. The other replies you got seemed to eat up the idea of misconduct here so I guess we all equally misunderstood your intent. It's hilarious now that I reread it in that light (except my post of course).  Thanks for that. By the way I don't think you should ever apologize for linking to current political news issues.
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On March 24 2019 15:52 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird. trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001deeply sorry it’s from huffpo. Now this is despicable. It's beyond the pale. This I can't abide. When are they finally going to pass a law prohibiting people from putting National Mall landmarks on t-shirts, soaps, tumblers, candles, and mugs at gift shops? In fact I bet Trump wasn't even the first to do this, just the first to get caught by our universally acclaimed and trusted sleuths at the Huffington Post. So who knows how widespread this really is. Gah. I can only imagine him sitting in the Oval Office wasting time personally drawing these pictures for t-shirts while he should be running the country. Good find.
Given what we've learned with trump being president, Congress really needs to pass a law imposing tough restrictions on any interaction between a presidents own for profit enterprises and the government. I'm not sure it would be constitutional or whatever but they should try.
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On March 25 2019 00:27 Doodsmack wrote:Show nested quote +On March 24 2019 15:52 oBlade wrote:On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird. trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements. https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001deeply sorry it’s from huffpo. Now this is despicable. It's beyond the pale. This I can't abide. When are they finally going to pass a law prohibiting people from putting National Mall landmarks on t-shirts, soaps, tumblers, candles, and mugs at gift shops? In fact I bet Trump wasn't even the first to do this, just the first to get caught by our universally acclaimed and trusted sleuths at the Huffington Post. So who knows how widespread this really is. Gah. I can only imagine him sitting in the Oval Office wasting time personally drawing these pictures for t-shirts while he should be running the country. Good find. Given what we've learned with trump being president, Congress really needs to pass a law imposing tough restrictions on any interaction between a presidents own for profit enterprises and the government. I'm not sure it would be constitutional or whatever but they should try. I expect a bunch of stuff to change once Trump is out of office. A lot of rules that now only apply to cabinet members and that Presidents in the past chose to follow becoming law, that sort of thing.
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Apparently theres going to be some pretty prompt disclosure to the public. Not too surprising. Congress would leak it anyway.
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I'm so stressed out about the pandemonium that will follow no matter what it says. Oy. I'm legitimately uneasy lol.
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On March 25 2019 01:16 Mohdoo wrote:I'm so stressed out about the pandemonium that will follow no matter what it says. Oy. I'm legitimately uneasy lol.
What risks happening ?
- There have been no indictments of Trump's close family and Trump himself was not going to get indicted by Mueller, ever.
- DOJ regulations say unindicted people shouldn't have information disclosed to avoid dealing damage to them. So there is a high chance you are not going to see anything in the report regarding that.
- All that information would have been fed into the congressional, counterintelligence or judiciary investigations already existing in a variety of places, so you would see it coming back at some point.
- At worst Trump would be an unindicted co-conspirator, and an investigation on party lines would follow, with the republicans voting against an eventual impeachment.
- If there really were very serious allegations, smoking-gun or else, at least Trump Jr. would have been indicted first. So there's none. And the unusual amount of sealed indictments in DC are apparently unrelated to Mueller, so...
I'm not really holding my chair for what happens, just waiting to see if it's A, B or C. If there's a surprise, I'll be surprised then :-p
Not expecting a pandemonium. All things considered, I believe Trump to be too stupid to actually plan a serious conspiracy. Most likely he doesn't even realise he is being played and pushed by other people banking on his personality to stir things up in the US and the rest of the world, while advancing their own interests stealthily (and it worked wonderfully so far for them !)
If I was doing a conspiracy, I would not for the life of me include a loud-mouthed guy like that willingly. It's too risky ! Even while probably innocent, he nearly busted himself several times by showing a stupid behaviour (bragging in the oval office in front of the russians, at helsinki and so forth). So imagine if he was knowingly part of it ? Bah, nightmares for the conspirators !
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Here are two articles that are presumably talking about the same poll:
Polls show Bernie Sanders popularity among all voters is plummeting
Biden leads CNN poll, but Harris, Sanders on the rise
I say presumably because, amazingly, the Enten article doesn't link the poll it's talking about and has slightly different numbers. However it's "Our new CNN poll" on March 20, 2019 for Enten, and from The Hill article: "The full CNN poll was based on interviews with 1,003 adults between March 14 and March 17." I am quite certain it's the same because last CNN poll was months ago, it's not like they release one every three days; I also searched for over 30 minutes online and couldn't find another one, and every other CNN article about new polls in the last few days links to the same poll as the Hill article.
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I’m waiting for the all caps NO COLLUSION tweet.
What else? The final announcement of no criminal indictments for Americans conspiring with Russians, after two years of investigation?
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The Enten article cites a quinippiac poll of favorability where Sanders is judged on his own. The other article cites a CNN poll of picking your favorite of likely candidates.
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On March 25 2019 03:01 RenSC2 wrote:
The Enten article cites a quinippiac poll of favorability where Sanders is judged on his own. The other article cites a CNN poll of picking your favorite of likely candidates.
No it doesn't. The Quinnipiac poll is from december and is used for another point.
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I think another factor to keep in mind with polling is that there haven't been any debates yet. Right now, name recognition is likely to have a fairly substantial impact on how a person does in these polls, and it shows.
For example, I've been seeing a ton of positivity toward Peter Buttigieg among those that know him and those who are learning about him, but so few people know of him right now that he barely registers on most polls.
Buttigieg's one of the more interesting people to announce they are running so far. I didn't understand why he would run at first because he seems so small time, but the more I learn about his background, the more it makes sense. He's the anti-Trump. He's young (in his 30s), incredibly sharp (He's a Rhodes Scholar who knows 7 foreign languages: Spanish, French, Italian, Maltese, Arabic, Dari, and Norwegian), a member of the LGBTQ community, served overseas in the military (and still is in it as a reservist), and is obscenely popular among those who know him (he won the last mayoral election in South Bend, Indiana with over 80% of votes). He's the person I'd pick as the Democrat candidate of everyone who has put in a bid so far. He doesn't have the baggage of Biden, Harris, or Booker that the Republicans would use to attack, and he can appeal to a ton of different demographics.
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On March 25 2019 03:00 Danglars wrote:
I’m waiting for the all caps NO COLLUSION tweet.
What else? The final announcement of no criminal indictments for Americans conspiring with Russians, after two years of investigation?
Sounds comparable to Benghazi and birtherism. All is fair.
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Why do they have to drop this during netherlands-germany lol
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