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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
March 23 2019 10:50 GMT
#24761
Now with the Mueller report out of the way (almost), folks can start focusing on the more important task of winning elections.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
FueledUpAndReadyToGo
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
Netherlands30548 Posts
March 23 2019 10:55 GMT
#24762
Some interesting threads (they are lot longer than these two tweets). The conclusion that because it's reported Mueller will do 'no more indictments' at this time, and with that being implicated that Trump Jr etc are safe now seems to be an incorrect conclusion.



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farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18825 Posts
March 23 2019 10:58 GMT
#24763
None of the noise mattering is definitely true, what matters is what people with the authority to bring charges do and in what capacity. From the perspective of folks interested in getting rid of Trump, it's a distraction for the most part.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5281 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-23 11:00:00
March 23 2019 10:58 GMT
#24764
On March 23 2019 18:27 Nebuchad wrote:
New Innuendo Studios just dropped, this one on conservatism. It's quality as usual. It might be even more interesting because while fascism is more dangerous obviously, it's pretty rare for fascists to identify as fascists. Conservatism is in the open.

+ Show Spoiler +

+ Show Spoiler +


I've said it before but Breadtube is excessively good. Countering the right on Youtube is not really a job for heroes but it's one of the most important things to do in the extremely online community these days.
watched 'always a bigger fish'. it started off decent but then, when it began talking about racism and fascism and hierarchies, it went to shit.
why wouldn't be hierarchies under liberals?. even when a forced beginning(equal opportunity) is in effect, there will still be hierarchies.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Slydie
Profile Joined August 2013
1915 Posts
March 23 2019 11:42 GMT
#24765
On March 23 2019 19:58 xM(Z wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2019 18:27 Nebuchad wrote:
New Innuendo Studios just dropped, this one on conservatism. It's quality as usual. It might be even more interesting because while fascism is more dangerous obviously, it's pretty rare for fascists to identify as fascists. Conservatism is in the open.

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/agzNANfNlTs

+ Show Spoiler +
https://youtu.be/E4CI2vk3ugk


I've said it before but Breadtube is excessively good. Countering the right on Youtube is not really a job for heroes but it's one of the most important things to do in the extremely online community these days.
watched 'always a bigger fish'. it started off decent but then, when it began talking about racism and fascism and hierarchies, it went to shit.
why wouldn't be hierarchies under liberals?. even when a forced beginning(equal opportunity) is in effect, there will still be hierarchies.


Of course there will be hierarcys, and he says that the pyramid way of thinking is very important for the liberals too.

The really interresting part is that in countries with free tuition and a less "conservative" structure, the hierarcys are generally still in place, but the two bottom tiers are much better off.

Equal opportunities is indeed an illusion, but I still believe everybody should have equal access to helathcare and education.
Buff the siegetank
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9617 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-23 12:45:19
March 23 2019 12:44 GMT
#24766
just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird.

trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

deeply sorry it’s from huffpo.
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
March 23 2019 13:14 GMT
#24767
On March 23 2019 21:44 brian wrote:
just in case i’m not the only one who hasn’t ever really been interested in the mueller investigation generally i want to share this bit of hilarious news. i can’t tell anymore if this is actually like, corrupt to some level or if it’s just extremely weird.

trump is using the whitehouse to literally help sell is brand, on trump hotel advertisements.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c95b983e4b057f7330b04e2?ncid=APPLENEWS00001

deeply sorry it’s from huffpo.


Oh don't worry, he assert again that he's donating his salary and he's losing money during his presidency :-)))))))))
Who do you take the guy for, everything he's doing is to further his own interests, brand and "image".
NoiR
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
March 23 2019 15:56 GMT
#24768
“But I thought his assets were going into a blind trust”

Remember that claim during the election where it turned out he had no idea what a blind trust was? He explained it as him continuing to own everything and to be informed regarding operations but he would appoint a day to day manager to create some distance. He proposed his daughter as the manager.

Compare this to Carter who sold his peanut farm to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Open flaunting of corruption is the new normal.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21666 Posts
March 23 2019 15:58 GMT
#24769
On March 24 2019 00:56 KwarK wrote:
“But I thought his assets were going into a blind trust”

Remember that claim during the election where it turned out he had no idea what a blind trust was? He explained it as him continuing to own everything and to be informed regarding operations but he would appoint a day to day manager to create some distance. He proposed his daughter as the manager.

Compare this to Carter who sold his peanut farm to avoid even the appearance of impropriety. Open flaunting of corruption is the new normal.
Or when he signed those papers to turn his business over to his children and the folder was full of blank pages and when later asked the relevant institutions that needed to be notified didn't receive anything?

It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 23 2019 16:24 GMT
#24770
--- Nuked ---
NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 23 2019 16:45 GMT
#24771
On March 23 2019 19:55 FueledUpAndReadyToGo wrote:
Some interesting threads (they are lot longer than these two tweets). The conclusion that because it's reported Mueller will do 'no more indictments' at this time, and with that being implicated that Trump Jr etc are safe now seems to be an incorrect conclusion.

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1109205150336516096

https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1109319967298732032

Very, very good threads. He's still adding to the second one, even. Yes, Mueller is technically stepping out. No, Trumpers should not start getting comfy.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42653 Posts
March 23 2019 17:01 GMT
#24772
It's bizarre that the US President is currently twitter feuding with a dead war hero. Like that's just an objectively weird thing to be happening. If a decade ago someone had told you it would happen you'd have certainly had some questions about how we got to this point.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
March 23 2019 17:42 GMT
#24773
On March 24 2019 01:24 JimmiC wrote:
This thread has popped off the last couple of days so I just wanted to see if these were facts that everyone can agree with before we get the Mueller report.

1)Cohen was dirty, did many illegal things. Paid off ladies that Trump slept with outside of marriage. Trump paid Cohen the amount of money that Cohen paid but it could have been for something else.
2) Manafort is a dirty SOB
3) Stone is a dirty SOB
4) Flynn is a dirty SOB
5) The Trump tower meeting did happen with Don Jr being there.
6) Kushner and Ivanka were rejected for security clearance but it was forced through.
7) Kushner and Ivanka used unsecured emails and whats app to talk to the Saudi's about obtaining nuclear power.
8) Trump was trying to build a building in Moscow and did offer Putin the penthouse

I don't believe any of the above is in dispute from either side, which tells me either Trump is also dirty or he is an absolutely horrible judge of character and makes very very poor hires.


- Ladies that Trump *allegedly* slept with (granted, it's 99%). Just after his wife was pregnant or gave birth though, what an asshole, but that's nothing new.
- Flynn is kinda debatable.
- The penthouse was Nader's idea. Trump didn't fight it though.

Someone who surrounds himself with crooks is either an idiot being played, or a crook himself. I believe he's both.
NoiR
Doodsmack
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7224 Posts
March 23 2019 18:18 GMT
#24774
Interestingly, the justice department has a policy of not indicting the president, and also a policy of not releasing derogatory information about someone who is not indicted. This would seem to guarantee that info concerning trump in the Mueller report would not come out. Will be interesting to see how they handle it.
iamthedave
Profile Joined February 2011
England2814 Posts
March 23 2019 19:23 GMT
#24775
On March 24 2019 02:01 KwarK wrote:
It's bizarre that the US President is currently twitter feuding with a dead war hero. Like that's just an objectively weird thing to be happening. If a decade ago someone had told you it would happen you'd have certainly had some questions about how we got to this point.


Isn't it more bizarre that the Republicans are backing him while doing this? In all the grief Democrats have given him, nobody I've ever seen on the left has ever tried to denigrate McCain for what he did in service to his country. Yet the Republicans don't give a shit now Trump's laying in on his favourite target (one that can't hit back).
I'm not bad at Starcraft; I just think winning's rude.
Gorgonoth
Profile Joined August 2017
United States468 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-23 20:05:53
March 23 2019 20:04 GMT
#24776
On March 24 2019 04:23 iamthedave wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2019 02:01 KwarK wrote:
It's bizarre that the US President is currently twitter feuding with a dead war hero. Like that's just an objectively weird thing to be happening. If a decade ago someone had told you it would happen you'd have certainly had some questions about how we got to this point.


Isn't it more bizarre that the Republicans are backing him while doing this? In all the grief Democrats have given him, nobody I've ever seen on the left has ever tried to denigrate McCain for what he did in service to his country. Yet the Republicans don't give a shit now Trump's laying in on his favourite target (one that can't hit back).


It isn’t true that most or even a significant portion of Republicans are backing him on this . Many Republican officials like have reaffirmed their appreciation of McCain’s service after Trumps comments and some have challenged or criticized him directly.
www.google.com
www.google.com

On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-23 20:20:12
March 23 2019 20:19 GMT
#24777
On March 24 2019 03:18 Doodsmack wrote:
Interestingly, the justice department has a policy of not indicting the president, and also a policy of not releasing derogatory information about someone who is not indicted. This would seem to guarantee that info concerning trump in the Mueller report would not come out. Will be interesting to see how they handle it.


This has been my concern for some time. Still, I cant imagine that sort of stuff being hidden long.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 23 2019 20:19 GMT
#24778
Talk is cheap, which is why the Republicans objections Trumps attacks on a dead war veteran ring hollow.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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NewSunshine
Profile Joined July 2011
United States5938 Posts
March 23 2019 21:21 GMT
#24779
On March 24 2019 05:19 Plansix wrote:
Talk is cheap, which is why the Republicans objections Trumps attacks on a dead war veteran ring hollow.

And more often than not, Republicans like to make their positions on an issue known via silence. What they don't say is more accurate than what they do say.
"If you find yourself feeling lost, take pride in the accuracy of your feelings." - Night Vale
HelpMeGetBetter
Profile Blog Joined November 2012
United States764 Posts
March 23 2019 22:00 GMT
#24780
On March 24 2019 06:21 NewSunshine wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 24 2019 05:19 Plansix wrote:
Talk is cheap, which is why the Republicans objections Trumps attacks on a dead war veteran ring hollow.

And more often than not, Republicans like to make their positions on an issue known via silence. What they don't say is more accurate than what they do say.


Any ideas on what Trump's first tweet will be about since Mueller handed in the report? Must be killing him people are telling him to keep quiet. If the report "vindicates" Trump, why isn't he all over twitter saying he was right?
Hmm very interesting indeed...
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