Shootings and Casualties in Central Paris - Page 3

On November 14 2015 07:11 WhiteDog wrote:
A guy heard "Allahu Akbar" before the shootings. There may still be shootings in the place of republic.

On November 14 2015 07:09 Stratos_speAr wrote:
I heard the explosions while watching the game. I thought they were fireworks by some punks in the crowd.

'Gunmen shouted Allah Akbar'
Louis, inside the Bataclan, told France Info radio the men opened fire and shouted "Allah Akbar".
He only saw silhouettes. He said:
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The men came in and started shooting. Everyone fell to the ground. It was hell.
I took my mum, and we hid. Someone near us said they have gone, so we ran out. I was only thinking of escaping.
We're out now. I think people are still inside.
It's a nightmare - a nightmare.

On November 14 2015 07:15 m4ini wrote:


Not ruling out muslim terrorist, but Allahu Akbar is not restricted to terrorists, it's used the same way we say "oh my god".

Again: i agree it looks alot like "the usual culprit", but since we literally now nothing, that prejudice is quite disturbing.

On November 14 2015 07:17 OmniEulogy wrote:


the real disturbing thing is that people are getting shot in the streets of Paris. People jumping to a conclusion based on their own personal opinion about recent world events isn't that bad. Let's be honest.

On November 14 2015 07:15 m4ini wrote:


Not ruling out muslim terrorist, but Allahu Akbar is not restricted to terrorists, it's used the same way we say "oh my god".

Again: i agree it looks alot like "the usual culprit", but since we literally now nothing, that prejudice is quite disturbing.

On November 14 2015 07:15 m4ini wrote:


Not ruling out muslim terrorist, but Allahu Akbar is not restricted to terrorists, it's used the same way we say "oh my god".

Again: i agree it looks alot like "the usual culprit", but since we literally now nothing, that prejudice is quite disturbing.

On November 14 2015 07:18 Djzapz wrote:

Wouldn't be so irritating, but you just knows it comes from people with an agenda.

On November 14 2015 07:18 Nixer wrote:

It isn't that bad, no, but that doesn't make it right.

On November 14 2015 07:18 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:
Now they say 40 dead
https://twitter.com/stefandevries/status/665290341357125632

and 100+ hostages

On November 14 2015 07:17 AngryMag wrote:
That really sucks. Condolences to the victim's families and friends.


I wrote the same comment under the thread regarding the CH massacre. This will continue to happen until we as western societies and the muslim minorities living in them honestly discuss muslim extremism and its legitimization via salafist ideology based on the muslimic holy book. We need to aim for a point where we can find a consensus where people say "hear young muslimic dude you shouldn't take this line in the koran literally you should rather see the totally different times and context in which it was written".
This ideology still gets tolerated in our socities (by muslims and nonmuslims) despite its facist nature.Our societies should put the gloves off against these guys and stop allowing them to hind themselves behind the freedom of religion line. Freedom of religion doesn't mean freedom to facism and it doesn't mean to agitate the youth for violent means either.

But I am sceptical I don't think that we are at a point where we can honestly discuss these things. Tomorrow we will hear the usual defense "these weren't muslims" brought up by politicians and people working for muslimic organisations. Of course they were muslims incited to kill inferior nonmuslims by other muslims in France and abroad. I fear a lot more people will die until we tackle these extremism in our societies.