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Shana
Indonesia1814 Posts
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Shadowfyre
United States14 Posts
But..I fail to realize how this is a "truly historical event" for anyone that isn't in the US. It may be if it was the first time it is legalized in a country but it isn't. Because I've talked to a few friends abroad (i.e. Aussie) and they have said that due to certain legal movements in the US gaining ground, and he was talking specifically about marijuana at the time, that their governments are starting to overturn certain laws and prohibitions that previously would've been taboo. | ||
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Lucumo
6850 Posts
On June 27 2015 09:29 [Phantom] wrote: But..I fail to realize how this is a "truly historical event" for anyone that isn't in the US. It may be if it was the first time it is legalized in a country but it isn't. Some people think it's the center of the world, so that's that. | ||
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Pontius Pirate
United States1557 Posts
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Grettin
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nojok
France15846 Posts
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maartendq
Belgium3115 Posts
What's with the rainbow manes of the horse by the way? I though this was a website on Starcraft 2, not (another) vehicle for LGBT activists or activism. What is it with this obsession with sexual orientation on the Internet nowadays? Why is it necessary to drag sexual orientation into everything? | ||
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FinestHour
United States18466 Posts
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Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
On June 27 2015 16:35 maartendq wrote: Gay marriage legalised for almost more than a decade in some countries in Europe: no-one bats an eye. Gay marriage legalised in the US: a historical event that will change the very course of history! What's with the rainbow manes of the horse by the way? I though this was a website on Starcraft 2, not (another) vehicle for LGBT activists or activism. What is it with this obsession with sexual orientation on the Internet nowadays? Why is it necessary to drag sexual orientation into everything? Many StarCraft players are queer and a huge part of the community and it is not unreasonable that TL would advertise that they are accepting of people of such identities and that they would do what they can to make them part of their community. The gay rights movement is in its endgame and the outcome is inevitable, but it doesn't meant that support should not be discouraged, even if it may seem redundant especially for those in some Western European countries. Now, if TL became a bastion for liberal, left-wing, or nationalist politics, that would be very unacceptable. | ||
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y0su
Finland7871 Posts
On June 27 2015 16:52 Shiragaku wrote: Many StarCraft players are queer and a huge part of the community and it is not unreasonable that TL would advertise that they are accepting of people of such identities and that they would do what they can to make them part of their community. The gay rights movement is in its endgame and the outcome is inevitable, but it doesn't meant that support should not be discouraged, even if it may seem redundant especially for those in some Western European countries. Now, if TL became a bastion for liberal, left-wing, or nationalist politics, that would be very unacceptable. I don't think it's just about LGBT issues or the gaming community. Pretty sure if gender or race were as big social issues (even if it didn't affect much of the gaming communities or all western countries) we'd see a pink horse to draw attention to women's suffrage or something similar for race. The point being that TL recognizes a social issue and (for one week) displays support. | ||
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WolfintheSheep
Canada14127 Posts
Even if much of the world has been rolling their eyes for years. | ||
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xAdra
Singapore1858 Posts
On June 27 2015 16:35 maartendq wrote: Gay marriage legalised for almost more than a decade in some countries in Europe: no-one bats an eye. Gay marriage legalised in the US: a historical event that will change the very course of history! What's with the rainbow manes of the horse by the way? I though this was a website on Starcraft 2, not (another) vehicle for LGBT activists or activism. What is it with this obsession with sexual orientation on the Internet nowadays? Why is it necessary to drag sexual orientation into everything? Regarding "obsession with sexual orientation": more like obsession with progress. Discriminating based on sexual orientation is a very backward thing. Granted there are many more idiotic ways to discriminate but sexual orientation was blindingly obvious in how stupid the dscrimination was. I do hope the world follows by quickly eliminating other discrimination methods too. For fucks sake its 21st century these things should not have to be said. | ||
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DannyJ
United States5110 Posts
On June 27 2015 17:11 WolfintheSheep wrote: I'm of the "about fucking time" mindset over the "historical landmark event" celebration as well, but the Liquid network is a primarily American-traffic site, so of course American news is going to be a big deal. Even if much of the world has been rolling their eyes for years. As in much of the world allows gay marriage? Not really... and it was only like 2 years ago that the amount of people in the world that could legally marry essentially doubled. Not to mention American states have individually been legalizing it since the early 2000's. This is big news simply because it's officially the law of the entire land, something that can be a little more tricky and time consuming than usual in a nation that highly values individual state rights. | ||
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Cascade
Australia5405 Posts
On June 27 2015 12:56 Shana wrote: Anyway to see that on mobile site? ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/N4g4A3W.png) | ||
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TheBloodyDwarf
Finland7524 Posts
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Dagobert
Netherlands1858 Posts
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Jayme
United States5866 Posts
Now I'll be one of the first people to say that Americans can be kinda self centered and all that but this sort of thing is actually a big deal. The United States is a very conservative country and religion has a really big freaking hold on how the general population "views" things and due to that the whole gay marriage thing has been in limbo for much longer than it should have been. The fact that a decision has finally been reached and that it leaned toward the progressive side of things is something this country pretty badly needs. Some things just need to be put to rest finally. | ||
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Leny_1
Poland45 Posts
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tshi
United States2495 Posts
On June 27 2015 19:07 Jayme wrote: People here are kinda missing the point about it being a historical milestone only because LOL MURICA. Now I'll be one of the first people to say that Americans can be kinda self centered and all that but this sort of thing is actually a big deal. The United States is a very conservative country and religion has a really big freaking hold on how the general population "views" things and due to that the whole gay marriage thing has been in limbo for much longer than it should have been. The fact that a decision has finally been reached and that it leaned toward the progressive side of things is something this country pretty badly needs. Some things just need to be put to rest finally. You're right - haha not to get into a political thing but the country is going through some shit with race right now and there are places in the south taking down confederate stuff - bad relics from the past and this kind of thing being a national decision is like a big symbol for progressive and more forward-thinking ideals . | ||
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DeadByDawn
United Kingdom476 Posts
The really interesting part for me is the journey that Americans have had on the issue. In 1999 62% were against same sex marriage and 35% for. In 2015 37% were against same sex marriage and 60% for. SCOTUS just basically reflected reality, and the petulant remarks of Scalia et al show how out of touch they are. The constitution is not written in stone - it is a living, breathing thing to be interpreted according to prevalent social mores. Besides, why shouldn't gays be allowed to marry and be as miserable as everyone else  | ||
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