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Chewbacca.
United States3634 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:04 Plansix wrote: Its not really forbidden any more that acid wash jeans. They just don't sell either at Walmart for different reasons. Read the post you are responding to before typing... I'm not even close to writing that it is currently forbidden. I'm saying that the current push towards forbidding it (AS FORBIDDING IT IN THE FUTURE) is moronic. EDIT: I realize the legislation that has been put forward is only to take it down, but if I as a Dane has been able to notice the push towards making it illegal from my Facebook/twitter/news feeds, then I'm fairly certain you have as well. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:38 Endymion wrote: i understand that it's "not the flag of the Confederacy," but in the same way that it's colloquially recognized to be racist it's also colloquially recognized to represent the Confederacy and the civil war.. It's the social trends that annoy me, not the companies pulling the products.. Mostly because i can understand corporations and their profit motives, where as people taking away the cultures of those that they disagree I can't vibe with. If I say "I disagree with the LGBT flag. Since I'm straight, it's offensive to me that others are different and celebrate something that I'm not. Jeffrey Dahmer was gay and he killed people, so i'm not cool with your flag anymore, please don't fly it anymore." Is that cool? lol.. that's how I define sjw, people who attack others for not agreeing with them, so laugh at me if you want for my diction.. What you are describing is democracy and the "holy free market" at work. Its companies and politicians listening to what people want. The people who want that flag up are an ever shrinking minority. And the people who support that flag attack people they don't agree with. One of them went into a church and attacked 9 of them. On June 26 2015 06:46 Ghostcom wrote: Read the post you are responding to before typing... I'm not even close to writing that it is currently forbidden. I'm saying that the current push towards forbidding it (AS FORBIDDING IT IN THE FUTURE) is moronic. We don't really have a history of banning flags in this country. You can fly the Nazi flag outside your house if you really want. I wouldn't recommend it. | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:38 Endymion wrote: i understand that it's "not the flag of the Confederacy," but in the same way that it's colloquially recognized to be racist it's also colloquially recognized to represent the Confederacy and the civil war.. It's the social trends that annoy me, not the companies pulling the products.. Mostly because i can understand corporations and their profit motives, where as people taking away the cultures of those that they disagree I can't vibe with. If I say "I disagree with the LGBT flag. Since I'm straight, it's offensive to me that others are different and celebrate something that I'm not. Jeffrey Dahmer was gay and he killed people, so i'm not cool with your flag anymore, please don't fly it anymore." Is that cool? lol.. that's how I define sjw, people who attack others for not agreeing with them, so laugh at me if you want for my diction.. If, in the future, our gay overlords enslave and kill millions of straight people in the name of LGBT-land, you will be allowed to claim that public display of LGBT language or symbols is deeply offensive to you. Again, not all opinions are equally good, just equally protected, and only from the government. If people want to continue to wave the Confederate flag after it is abundantly clear that it is a racist symbol to the majority of Americans, that is their right, but get it off of government and public property and put it in a museum where it belongs. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23429 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:46 Ghostcom wrote: Read the post you are responding to before typing... I'm not even close to writing that it is currently forbidden. I'm saying that the current push towards forbidding it (AS FORBIDDING IT IN THE FUTURE) is moronic. There's a push to forbid it? | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
Try again kids. | ||
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
Yes. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
There's also a Texan secession movement and people who quite literally think the world is run by lizard people. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Not that I am aware of, just to move it into history where it should be. Not flying with special laws prohibiting it from being taken down(this is why the flag couldn't be flown at half mast in S. Carolina after the shooting. It was above the US flag during that time) | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
How big of a push are we talking about? Social media is both a blessing and a curse in that it gives individuals an extremely broad reach with their message. I have not seen any organized group claiming that the flag should be banned in all its forms, but I wouldn't be surprised to see individuals calling for it. There are people who think Obama is a Muslim plant getting ready to declare martial law before the next election so that he can usher in Sharia Law and becomes America's first king. That doesn't mean it's worth taking them seriously. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:52 FHDH wrote: There's also a Texan secession movement and people who quite literally think the world is run by lizard people. Glad we can agree that those are equally insane. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23429 Posts
Apparently it's bigger in Denmark than it is here. My bet is that it's ignorant people who don't know what they are talking about and perceive the removal from public property to be a ban. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:56 Ghostcom wrote: Glad we can agree that those are equally insane. The word I was looking for was "irrelevant." | ||
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ZasZ.
United States2911 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:52 Endymion wrote: i get that it's a free market.. i don't get the idea that your idea isn't "equally as good" as mine, that's what leads to censorship. That's an awfully black and white way to look at things...all ideas should be evaluated based on their individual merits. for example, Hitler's idea of how he wanted the world to be was NOT as good as everyone else's. Being able to say and do whatever the hell you want without people responding to it is what leads to anarchy. If the collective thinks you're an asshole for having a specific opinion, that makes you an asshole in the eyes of the collective, and as they say perception is reality. But our government would defend your right to have that opinion, as long as you aren't actively harming anyone by holding that opinion. If there actually is an organized movement to ban the Confederate flag from everywhere, I'd be right there with the racists claiming that it's a mistake, but for historical reasons. | ||
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Kickboxer
Slovenia1308 Posts
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Ghostcom
Denmark4782 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:56 GreenHorizons wrote: Apparently it's bigger in Denmark than it is here. My bet is that it's ignorant people who don't know what they are talking about and perceive the removal from public property to be a ban. I wasn't aware that California was Danish, but I guess I learned something today. | ||
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FHDH
United States7023 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:59 Kickboxer wrote: PC is a form of politics, and like all politics it's inherently bullshit Politics are the systemized resolution of disputes within a governing body. On June 26 2015 07:00 Ghostcom wrote: I wasn't aware that California was Danish, but I guess I learned something today. I live in California and I have no fucking clue what you're talking about. How about you stop being cute and start substantiating your shit. | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
On June 26 2015 06:58 ZasZ. wrote: That's an awfully black and white way to look at things...all ideas should be evaluated based on their individual merits. for example, Hitler's idea of how he wanted the world to be was NOT as good as everyone else's. Being able to say and do whatever the hell you want without people responding to it is what leads to anarchy. If the collective thinks you're an asshole for having a specific opinion, that makes you an asshole in the eyes of the collective, and as they say perception is reality. But our government would defend your right to have that opinion, as long as you aren't actively harming anyone by holding that opinion. If there actually is an organized movement to ban the Confederate flag from everywhere, I'd be right there with the racists claiming that it's a mistake, but for historical reasons. i realize that it's a black and white way to look at it, but it's necessary to prevent censorship.. for example, i'm sure a ton of people hate Lolita and they hate the amazon sells a book basically glorifying pedophilia, but it's still not banned.. Mein Kampf is also still sold on amazon and recognized at least by google's systems.. the collective might disagree with these ideas, but that doesn't decrease the validity of an idea, no matter how stupid you personally might think it is.. | ||
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