EPThaha i'm getting one
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BatTheMan
Canada759 Posts
haha i'm getting one | ||
Xeofreestyler
Belgium6771 Posts
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
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OctoPuSs
Canada5279 Posts
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pirate cod
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
but Looks freaking pretty. | ||
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SISKH
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Refrain[FriZ]
Canada4337 Posts
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tKd_
United States2916 Posts
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to miss the mark
Bosnia-Herzegovina1381 Posts
On January 09 2007 12:52 SISKH wrote: not a big deal,kid Calling people kid isn't a good way to present yourself if you want to stay around these forums. This phone looks pretty good, but a 499$ price tag for the 4GB, and a 599$ pricetag for the 8GB? That's ridiculously overpriced. I'd rather go out and buy a PS3 than get an 8 GB phone that runs OS X. It resembles a palm pilot more than a phone too. Edit: But the unlocking mechanism is soo cool! All you do is slide your finger across the screen to unlock. Hope the screen is very very very scratch resistant. | ||
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BuGzlToOnl
United States5918 Posts
On January 09 2007 12:51 j0ehoe wrote: yea, it looks sick. just 2 things. i replace my phones constantly, i have a feeling id break this in about a fucking week when im drunk or something. and two, since when is 600$ cheap!?!? Compared to all the features it has and everything else it's not that bad. And how much are the up-to-date phones now...? $200-$400. I got mine for like $120 with a family plan thing, but it does not have internet or email, GPS, or 8 Gigs of memory. My flashdrive cost me $40 and it's only 1 Gig... It's really not that bad of a prize just save up for a little while or wait for the prize to go down. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On January 09 2007 12:52 SISKH wrote: not a big deal,kid buddy, i make more than enough to afford this thing. but im not an impulsive jackass that goes and throws down 600$ on a fucking overpriced phone that i dont need. piss off. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On January 09 2007 13:00 BuGzlToOnl wrote: Compared to all the features it has and everything else it's not that bad. And how much are the up-to-date phones now...? $200-$400. I got mine for like $120 with a family plan thing, but it does not have internet or email, GPS, or 8 Gigs of memory. My flashdrive cost me $40 and it's only 1 Gig... It's really not that bad of a prize just save up for a little while or wait for the prize to go down. yea, if i was ognna get it, id wait a few months. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
Its camera is only 2 megapixels. The k750i has a 2 megapixel camera and its years old. Most new cameras are at least 3 megapixels, and I heard nokia is releasing a new phone soon with a 5 megapixel camera. The first comment to that article brings to attention a very valid point: that people dont like the feel of tapping on the screen to dial. This is very true. One of my friends got rid of his imate for exactly this reason. After all, a phone is a phone, all the other features are secondary. Apart from that the phone seems and looks amazing. | ||
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zdd
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dronebabo
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SCNewb
Canada2210 Posts
I was hoping for a full screen 6G ipod with more storage space  | ||
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MaGnIfIcA
Norway2312 Posts
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On January 09 2007 13:09 MaGnIfIcA wrote: Looks ugly if you ask me... And they better put some work into that screen, or else its gonna get raped. The phones gonna be in your pocket with all kinds of stuff all the time, that screen just looks like its gonna die. my thoughts exactly. its gonna be scratched to hell so fast | ||
ManaBlue
Canada10458 Posts
On January 09 2007 12:52 funKie wrote: but Looks freaking pretty. That's pretty much the moto of Mac nowadays. Ipods suck balls and they're a functional nightmare, but I'll be damned if it's not the prettiest little plastic box I've ever seen! -_- | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 09 2007 13:09 dronebabo wrote: the price is $499 and $599 with a 2-year contract. lolol other than that it looks to be a pretty ambitious smartphone gandalf: does the k750 have the ability to run real applications and OS X? 2 megapixel camera is fine No, of course not, I never implied the k750i was even remotely as good as the iphone. I was simply pointing out that a 2mp camera is a thing of the past now. With all these high tech features, maybe they could've squeezed in a better camera. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
They probably stuck to a 2mp phone either to prevent it from getting thicker or to cut costs. | ||
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BalloonFight
United States2007 Posts
I'll most likely get one a year after it releases, hopefully the price will drop and any bugs that it may have will be worked out | ||
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Meat
Netherlands3751 Posts
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StarN
United States2587 Posts
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SCNewb
Canada2210 Posts
On January 09 2007 12:54 Refrain[FriZ] wrote: Can anyone link to the Steve Jobs presentation from where these photos were taken? http://www.engadget.com/2007/01/09/the-apple-iphone/3 http://money.cnn.com/2007/01/09/technology/apple_jobs/?postversion=2007010915 the video is here | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
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ZaplinG
United States3818 Posts
the 30 dollar phone i have now can last days with one charge, why would i want that? | ||
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PuertoRican
United States5709 Posts
I wonder if anyone is gonna try and call the phone numbers that are shown on the cell phone through the pictures. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On January 09 2007 14:33 PuertoRican wrote: looks good, it might be the new popular phone like Razer was/is, after it goes down in price, maybe. I wonder if anyone is gonna try and call the phone numbers that are shown on the cell phone through the pictures. is the razer any good? i just got it. i needed a replacement phone n they didnt carry mine and the razer was only 30$ ;x | ||
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CoralReefer
Canada2069 Posts
On January 09 2007 13:15 ManaBlue wrote: That's pretty much the moto of Mac nowadays. Ipods suck balls and they're a functional nightmare, but I'll be damned if it's not the prettiest little plastic box I've ever seen! -_- ipods don't suck. there are as many ipod haters as there are fanboys, but to be honest, ipods give you good value in terms of storage space and portability. i have a mini, and while i don't really like the interface (the touch wheel has lost its novelty) it was damn cheap back when i bought it, especially compared to the competition (education prices are also a good deal maker) | ||
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alffla
Hong Kong20321 Posts
On January 09 2007 14:44 j0ehoe wrote: is the razer any good? i just got it. i needed a replacement phone n they didnt carry mine and the razer was only 30$ ;x ahhh haha i've heard about the outdatedness of phones in the US.. motorola Razr is so old but back on topic, the iPhone actually looks pretty sleek. would want to try one sometime | ||
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Monoxide
Canada1190 Posts
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20019 Posts
On January 09 2007 14:26 ZaplinG wrote: Only a 5 hour battery life when talking? the 30 dollar phone i have now can last days with one charge, why would i want that? 5 hour talk time is plenty. i doubt your phone last days of talk on one charge. Unless your comparing talk time vs idle time, in which case you're talking about apples and oranges. And a 300$ phone can be a 30$ phone after subscription rebate ~.~ | ||
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NewbSaibot
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funkie
Venezuela9374 Posts
It's pretty, I want it sure, but I'll have it like..in titanium shit around it so it won't break ;D | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On January 09 2007 13:18 BalloonFight wrote: I'll most likely get one a year after it releases, hopefully the price will drop and any bugs that it may have will be worked out Apple products do not drop in price, FYI. They simply release new products and stop producing the old ones. Anyways - I really see this thing having trouble catching on, the price is just insane. Then again, you can say the same thing about every other Apple product. *shrugs* | ||
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bboyldy
Korea (North)664 Posts
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Klogon
MURICA15980 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
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On January 09 2007 13:00 to miss the mark wrote: Calling people kid isn't a good way to present yourself if you want to stay around these forums. This phone looks pretty good, but a 499$ price tag for the 4GB, and a 599$ pricetag for the 8GB? That's ridiculously overpriced. I'd rather go out and buy a PS3 than get an 8 GB phone that runs OS X. It resembles a palm pilot more than a phone too. Edit: But the unlocking mechanism is soo cool! All you do is slide your finger across the screen to unlock. Hope the screen is very very very scratch resistant. It's probably about as scratch resistant as the fucking iPod screen, which is impossible to keep scratches off. (Seriously, I keep the thing on my ledge, on top of a console, or in an empty pocket, and it got scratched somehow... wtf?) | ||
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artofmagic
United States1951 Posts
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On January 09 2007 20:46 EvilTeletubby wrote: Apple products do not drop in price, FYI. They simply release new products and stop producing the old ones. Anyways - I really see this thing having trouble catching on, the price is just insane. Then again, you can say the same thing about every other Apple product. *shrugs* iPod's and phones with comparable features aren't really much cheaper (both are around $400). That, combined with the status symbol that the iPod/Apple brand holds and with the general awesomeness of the product, should make it easy for them to catch on. | ||
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jacen
Austria3644 Posts
On January 09 2007 19:55 NewbSaibot wrote: Oh joy, it's patented! I'm so glad apple is the only one legally allowed to come up with 100% touchscreen phones now, or whatever the patent grants them. thats exactly what i thought. who the fuck cares if its patented? this clearly shows which way apple is going ... | ||
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SISKH
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PanoRaMa
United States5069 Posts
 (pretty much a razr but better, albeit bigger). The 2 mp thing is slightly a turn off - for how magnificent this phone looks they really should've added a better camera to seal the deal. As ETT said, the prices never go down. I believe I heard somewhere that Apple doesn't let any of its retailers dip below a certain price for their products =/. Your best bet is to find a refurbished one (offered by Apple) sometime down the line (I think 1gb Nanos are going for like 33 refurbished at the moment on apple.com). | ||
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Nazarene
Denmark996 Posts
it's annoying. believe me when i say you will not want a phone where EVERYTHING is touch-screen. it looks great, but sometimes you gotta press several times before it does what you want it to do, and its alot easier to missclick. it also gets dirty easily because your dirty fingers keep on touching it. and it also gets scratched more easily. also, it's way too expensive imo | ||
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pyrogenetix
China5094 Posts
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
On January 10 2007 01:48 PanoRaMa wrote: That looks amazing, I'm VERY tempted to get one although I really like the phone I got a couple months ago, an LG CU500 (pretty much a razr but better, albeit bigger). The 2 mp thing is slightly a turn off - for how magnificent this phone looks they really should've added a better camera to seal the deal. As ETT said, the prices never go down. I believe I heard somewhere that Apple doesn't let any of its retailers dip below a certain price for their products =/. Your best bet is to find a refurbished one (offered by Apple) sometime down the line (I think 1gb Nanos are going for like 33 refurbished at the moment on apple.com). 2MP is enuff for smart fone. Apple has its very own price protection policy, if any retailer attempt to sell the product less than the RRP (Recommended Retail Price), then it will be fined heavily. Anywayz, there are a number of ways to get around this: + Student Discount (about 10% off) + ADC Student membership (20% once in a life time, I bought my Macbook Pro C2D via this policy, got it down from 4300$ AU to about 3300$ AU) + ETT (25% off, once a year, for Apple staffs, so hook up with a friend work for Apple) + Refurbished product (not recommended, but if you're really in short of money then bahhh...) hope that help, and btw, I've just been converted to an Apple fan . | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
On January 10 2007 01:44 SISKH wrote: --- Nuked --- this is like the 15th post of his ive seen nuked, the rest are dumb as shit. why isnt he banned yet? t | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On January 09 2007 20:53 Klogon wrote: Next on Apple's agenda: the iConsole. iPorn | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
Is not about "enuff", is about getting top tier. If you are getting a phone with such price and gadgets, they might as well add a better camera. Its like getting a top computer and a 15" monitor with it. A 15" monitor es "enuff", but doesnt match the rest of the computer. | ||
yakii
Korea (South)1448 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:30 artofmagic wrote: iphone too big? try iphone nano! hahaha XD EDIT : Their next product - iphone shuffle - a new small, simple phone with low price. No display screen,No number keypad. it has only two buttons - call and disconnet. when you press call button, it calls random number. Yes, Life is shuffle. It's amazing. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 09 2007 14:26 ZaplinG wrote: Only a 5 hour battery life when talking? the 30 dollar phone i have now can last days with one charge, why would i want that? 5 hours talking time isnt THAT bad. I charge my phone every night, and I doubt anyone of us would need to actually talk on the phone more than 5 hours a day. i think anything around or above 7 hours talk time is considered very good. 5 hours is average. And I think the razrs talk time is like 3 hours, though I'm not sure. Samsungs d900 also has a 3 hour talk time. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 10 2007 07:56 IntoTheWow wrote: Is not about "enuff", is about getting top tier. If you are getting a phone with such price and gadgets, they might as well add a better camera. Its like getting a top computer and a 15" monitor with it. A 15" monitor es "enuff", but doesnt match the rest of the computer. haha not only do you agree with me about 2mp not being on par with the other features on iphone, you even gave the same example!! And I dont think you read my post, else you would probably have come up with a different comparison Also it sucks balls if its true that Apple products dont drop in price >< | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 10 2007 02:36 Nazarene wrote: hmm, i have a samsung e900 (or is it d900? i dont remember), and it has some touch-screen. it's annoying. believe me when i say you will not want a phone where EVERYTHING is touch-screen. it looks great, but sometimes you gotta press several times before it does what you want it to do, and its alot easier to missclick. it also gets dirty easily because your dirty fingers keep on touching it. and it also gets scratched more easily. also, it's way too expensive imo You're right about the touch screen becoming irritating. My friend got tired of his imate because of exactly this reason. He got rid of it, and now uses a regular phone. However, apple says the iphone has some technology that will help it ignore unintended touches. | ||
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ATeddyBear
Canada2843 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32274 Posts
On January 10 2007 08:45 Gandalf wrote: haha not only do you agree with me about 2mp not being on par with the other features on iphone, you even gave the same example!! And I dont think you read my post, else you would probably have come up with a different comparison Also it sucks balls if its true that Apple products dont drop in price >< I wasnt answering you | ||
KizZBG
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dronebabo
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~AreS]
Canada2170 Posts
On January 10 2007 12:07 dronebabo wrote: he was just saying you gave the same example 2mp is still good enough, its not like 3mp or 2mp will make a big difference :/ Too much value is placed on mega pixels. Big scam. Opticals > MP. | ||
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j0ehoe
United States2705 Posts
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zdd
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
I know......I just found it amusing that we came up with the same example | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
Then there is the whole functionality thing. Really you are better off getting like a phone + PSP or video iPod if you need multimedia shit on the go. Would still be cheaper even with accessories. : [ Oh and the camera thing.. 2mp is plenty, the real thing to look at is what its made of. Most phones use plastic lenses and shit, so they still look terrible. 1-2mp with quality components is plenty for a camera phone. Im gonna assume it uses decent shit as opposed to most of the competition. | ||
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LibertyTerran
Vietnam711 Posts
On January 10 2007 07:56 IntoTheWow wrote: Is not about "enuff", is about getting top tier. If you are getting a phone with such price and gadgets, they might as well add a better camera. Its like getting a top computer and a 15" monitor with it. A 15" monitor es "enuff", but doesnt match the rest of the computer. So you're looking for iPhone with a 5mp, 3x optical zoom digital camera, big flash on it, at the price tag of 600$ with all of those unique features? LOLZ, keep it real, mate. In term of picture quality from these little cameras, I say 2,3 MP is not so much different from 5MP, why? Because of the size of the optical lens is so bloody small (to keep the battery usage & occupied space to a minimum). Apple addded the camera in just for the sake that everyphone these days has a camera, not that they want to commercialize iPhone as a CameraPhone like SonyK800 (where u get 3.15 MP, 2048x1536 pixels, autofocus, video(QCIF), xenon flash; secondary video call VGA camera). And also, the price includes how much money they've invested in developing: mutli-finger gesture recognition & scrolling, desktop class applications (iPhone runs OSX), and superb design. | ||
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azndng
United States344 Posts
to compare... i bought the Nokia N91 (UK version) for $800USD and its 2mp camera/video, 4GB hd, triband-3G, gps phone. it just got released in the states for $599. (iphone price)... **you don't really want a really big hd because the fone will lag like crazy without a good OS. but 4GB is more then enuf, considering the nearest competitor is 1gb. **1mp vs 2mp- they are WORLDSSSSSSS apart... if you haven't seen a 2mp cell phone pic compared to a 1mp, then you don't know what you're talking about. **the resoultion for the screen size is freaking amazing. i saw it on tv the other day and it basically destroys everything i've seen in cell phone capabilities. **if you take apart the phone and buy seperate things, of course its going to be "better" (psp + phone + ipod + camera) but that takes away the entire idea of the iPhone. its ALL IN ONE. that's the "wow factor" apple is selling. you don't need to carry all that bullshit with you. that's why you'd want this fone, so you don't have to have a damn purse to carry all those other shits. EDIT: i just read the "full specs" of the iphone, the gimmic is .. you have to sign a 2 year contract with cingular, so i take back my statement saying its cheap, its considering expensive just for this reason and its locked with cingular, no zoom camera, no 3g, no gps. but the screen is made of special crystal to prevent major scratches. so overall, i think the iphone will sell like crazy to those who are into anything with an "I" infront of it. | ||
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Peanuts.
United States378 Posts
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azndng
United States344 Posts
On January 10 2007 18:05 Peanuts wrote: ^so if i buy the iphone i dont need an ipod? :D why would you want to carry two things-- when the iphone has enough memory for mp3s? | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Looks good to me but I would rather have a basic camera flip phone as one thing and a music player as another. I don't need internet and shit in my pocket. I don't need a phone that plays music either. | ||
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HeavenS
Colombia2259 Posts
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6634817287115134475&q=iphone&hl=en looks amazing to me.... id buy it if i had the spare cash, but i dont! :D | ||
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red.venom
United States4651 Posts
On January 10 2007 18:28 azndng wrote: why would you want to carry two things-- when the iphone has enough memory for mp3s? Battery life comes to mind as the major issue. If I had an iPod I would mostly be using it in the car, as I dont really feel comfortable wearing headphones and listening to music in public places. Every friend of mine who has an iPod that I know uses it at least a majority of the time in their car(Maybe its just a california thing, we drive a lot), so I couldnt have it running out of juice constantly cuz it would also be a phone. : [ Also space isnt that great, at good quality album is gonna be like 100+ megs so I would personally use up 4gb very quickly. And who knows what kind of enforced compatibility Apple will try to throw on this(I could imagine they requiring you to use .m4a/.aac or w/e the Apple format is). Jack of all trades, master of none comes to mind with this thing and if you just want an MP3 phone there are plenty that have decent space and are much cheaper on a cell plan(Those chocolates are like 100 + 50 for a gig of memory). | ||
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[X]Ken_D
United States4650 Posts
The price is quite high, but when it drops to a reasonable price for me, I will definately pick it up. My LG phone sucks as a standalone MP3 player since the battery on it drain so fast. It could be that because it It runs MP3 off of a memory card. Typing on it is horrible so I try to message as little as possible on it. The iPhone looks like it will do to cellphone what the iPod did to MP3 player. | ||
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SojT
United States789 Posts
On January 09 2007 21:30 artofmagic wrote: iphone too big? try iphone nano! hahaha that thing is only 4 1/2" tall... ipod nano would be like.. 3? =[ | ||
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aseq
Netherlands3977 Posts
Instead they take it step by step and get everyone to pay for every device. "The iPhone looks like it will do to cellphone what the iPod did to MP3 player." True, they're inventing a bigger wheel every time. | ||
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XCetron
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Only cause then I can play SC on the go. And also I hate Apple for making the stupid iMacs, those things pissed me off. | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On January 10 2007 23:59 XCetron wrote: PDA&Laptop ftw. Only cause then I can play SC on the go. And also I hate Apple for making the stupid iMacs, those things pissed me off. Iphone provides OS so who said you could not install BW? What is stupid on a iMac? | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 10 2007 18:40 red.venom wrote: Battery life comes to mind as the major issue. If I had an iPod I would mostly be using it in the car, as I dont really feel comfortable wearing headphones and listening to music in public places. Every friend of mine who has an iPod that I know uses it at least a majority of the time in their car(Maybe its just a california thing, we drive a lot), so I couldnt have it running out of juice constantly cuz it would also be a phone. : [ Also space isnt that great, at good quality album is gonna be like 100+ megs so I would personally use up 4gb very quickly. And who knows what kind of enforced compatibility Apple will try to throw on this(I could imagine they requiring you to use .m4a/.aac or w/e the Apple format is). Jack of all trades, master of none comes to mind with this thing and if you just want an MP3 phone there are plenty that have decent space and are much cheaper on a cell plan(Those chocolates are like 100 + 50 for a gig of memory). 5 hours is the battery life for "talk" time. For listening to music its 16 hours I think, similar to the ipod. | ||
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gLyo
United States2410 Posts
On January 11 2007 00:19 Ilvy wrote: Iphone provides OS so who said you could not install BW? What is stupid on a iMac? It's a stripped down OSX -- from what I am reading on Digg, this means that you won't be able to install anything that Apple didn't make. | ||
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azndng
United States344 Posts
On January 10 2007 18:40 red.venom wrote: Battery life comes to mind as the major issue. If I had an iPod I would mostly be using it in the car, as I dont really feel comfortable wearing headphones and listening to music in public places. Every friend of mine who has an iPod that I know uses it at least a majority of the time in their car(Maybe its just a california thing, we drive a lot), so I couldnt have it running out of juice constantly cuz it would also be a phone. : [ Also space isnt that great, at good quality album is gonna be like 100+ megs so I would personally use up 4gb very quickly. And who knows what kind of enforced compatibility Apple will try to throw on this(I could imagine they requiring you to use .m4a/.aac or w/e the Apple format is). Jack of all trades, master of none comes to mind with this thing and if you just want an MP3 phone there are plenty that have decent space and are much cheaper on a cell plan(Those chocolates are like 100 + 50 for a gig of memory). you said it yoruself, it'll be used "in the car" (you personally), therefore, just use a car charger too. that's besides the point, 4gigs is a lot for a "phone".. and not to mention, theres the 8gb version. also, who would want the same tracks all the time? i'd assume most ipod users refresh their playlist? | ||
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
On January 10 2007 01:37 jacen wrote: thats exactly what i thought. who the fuck cares if its patented? this clearly shows which way apple is going ... Don't be stupid. Jobs goes into detail on how much more advanced this touchscreen is than any current touchscreens on smartphones. Of course he highlighted the fact that it was patented. | ||
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Seraphim
United States4467 Posts
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uNcontroLable
United States1180 Posts
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ROOTheognis
United States4482 Posts
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NewbSaibot
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On January 11 2007 16:54 GuYuTe- wrote: I just dont see why Jobs should be the only one to improve upon this technology. It's not like apple invented the touchscreen. Apple also wanted to copyright the entire concept of a portable mp3 player. Do you honestly think the iPod should be the only mp3 player in existence? Depending upon what this patent actually covers, i have a feeling it will be overruled or some such, as patenting fundamental technology which should be deployed to the masses is counter-productive to society. It'd be like patenting the car, or patenting the cell phone. Don't be stupid. Jobs goes into detail on how much more advanced this touchscreen is than any current touchscreens on smartphones. Of course he highlighted the fact that it was patented. However, this device kind of gives me the joyous feeling that all those cool little gadgets in sci-fi shows like star trek TNG and shit, where everything is touch screen with a nice smooth colorful interface is actually on the horizon. It is a very futuristic device and it stands to work plausibly in society, unlike other lame ass attempts to populate electronics with retarded BS that will never really catch on. The iPhone is a good idea, and i cant wait to see what future technologies develop as a result of this, assuming there will be any. | ||
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Kingkosi
United States1215 Posts
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XCetron
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Corinthos
Canada1842 Posts
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On January 11 2007 19:20 uNcontroLable wrote: Video presentation... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgW7or1TuFk The guy in that video calls it the most advanced phone ever made and the most advanced internet device ever made too... -_- | ||
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Wangsta
United States776 Posts
On January 11 2007 19:45 XCetron wrote: the name iPhone is patented and Cisco owns that name, I'm sure many people know that now. I see some bit of irony here. Cisco obtained the name "I.Phone" (short for Internet Phone) from some company they bought in 2003, forgot the name but I am 99% sure about these dates. That company obtained a patent for the name I.Phone in 1996 or something, and patents expire after 7 years. Also, I.Phone and iPhone are different, stand for different things, and represent separate markets. Even if their patent was still valid, there would be no real case. | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
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Silverand Cold
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On January 11 2007 20:57 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: seriously people stop making a big deal about the battery life.Oh wow, $599 for 5 hours of battery life, hm no thx. | ||
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jjun212
Canada2208 Posts
battery life is a big thing.. from phone to mp3 or w/e battery life has always been a big thing.. why wouldnt people complain about it now? =/ running an OS.. =/ oh well samsung smart phone has windows xp on it with 3.2 cam and huge internal drive this ipod phone is just big to people who aren't phone experts.. i mean like phone experts to know all about the nice asian phones that average north americans know nothing about but europeans and asians know that this ipod phone isn't that great.. just really hyped up | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
On January 11 2007 21:05 Silverand Cold wrote: seriously people stop making a big deal about the battery life. I usually like my Phone to have more than 5hrs of battery life, that apparently wouldn't last a normal work day. | ||
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uNcontroLable
United States1180 Posts
On January 11 2007 21:14 jjun212 wrote: this ipod phone is just big to people who aren't phone experts.. i mean like phone experts to know all about the nice asian phones that average north americans know nothing about but europeans and asians know that this ipod phone isn't that great.. just really hyped up Yeah, almost 2 years ago when I was in Europe I saw phones as good or better than this all over. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
On January 11 2007 21:14 jjun212 wrote: uhhhhhhhhhh.. battery life is a big thing.. from phone to mp3 or w/e battery life has always been a big thing.. why wouldnt people complain about it now? =/ running an OS.. =/ oh well samsung smart phone has windows xp on it with 3.2 cam and huge internal drive this ipod phone is just big to people who aren't phone experts.. i mean like phone experts to know all about the nice asian phones that average north americans know nothing about but europeans and asians know that this ipod phone isn't that great.. just really hyped up Ok this is the third time I'm saying this. Battery life is FINE. Talk time is 5 hours. Dont tell me you talk for more than five hours a day? Playback time is 16 hours. Again, would you ever listen to music for 16 hours a day? If you break them up, you'll probably have 2-3 hours of talk time with 8-10 hours of playback time. | ||
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oneofthem
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0x64
Finland4555 Posts
On January 09 2007 20:53 Klogon wrote: Next on Apple's agenda: the iConsole. ![[image loading]](http://www.josephineyeu.com/images/auction_photos/auction_pp_white_devbundle_v2.JPG) | ||
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Chobohobo
United States945 Posts
On January 11 2007 21:05 Silverand Cold wrote: seriously people stop making a big deal about the battery life. One thing which is kinda a big deal is that the battery does not seem to be user changeable like in the iPods. What happens after a year when talk time goes down to 2 hours or worse and you have a 500-600 dollar device? | ||
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Storchen
Sweden4385 Posts
I will buy one, love the design. | ||
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CharlieMurphy
United States22895 Posts
Details: Pros and Cons Etc. | ||
mensrea
Canada5062 Posts
On January 11 2007 20:37 Wangsta wrote: Cisco obtained the name "I.Phone" (short for Internet Phone) from some company they bought in 2003, forgot the name but I am 99% sure about these dates. That company obtained a patent for the name I.Phone in 1996 or something, and patents expire after 7 years. Also, I.Phone and iPhone are different, stand for different things, and represent separate markets. Even if their patent was still valid, there would be no real case. Only partially correct. Don't have time to explain properly, but in a nutshell: - Cisco (through the company they purchased) has a registered TRADEMARK (not a patent). A registered federal trademark in the US lasts for ten-year terms that can be renewed and extended indefinitely as long as the mark is being used by the registrant to identify a good or service. - On the face of it, it appears that Apple is infringing on Cisco's intellectual property right with respect to the trademark "iPhone". Cisco is the owner of the registered trademark, and that brings with it a host of very powerful assumptions that favor Cisco. - BUT: Apple is not stupid. They are certainly smarter and more thoughtful than any of the amateur pundits that are posting all over the internet right now about how they blundered. Apple must've done their homework and determined that a) there is a legal basis on which they can use iPhone without Cisco's permission, AND/OR b) they are confident they can negotiate a satisfactory settlement with Cisco for continued use of the "iPhone" mark regardless of what the law says. Bottom line: Apple has done a risk assessment and concluded that the benefits outweigh the risks. They did not just do this on a whim. - Speaking of legal principles, there are a number ways Apple can joust with Cisco in the courtroom and come out on top. Off the top of my head: 1) Trademark rules in the US allow the use of the same mark by two different products/organizations if the product/industry is different enough so that consumers could not reasonably be confused between the two. There is actually a trucking/transportation company operating in N. America called "Sysco". They could probably call themselves "Cisco" and the real Cisco likely would not have a case against them because there is little reasonable chance of confusion (i.e. no one is going to call Cisco the trucking company to order internet equipment). Accordingly, Apple may argue that the iPhone cell phone is a significantly different product than what Cisco (Linksys) is offering (a VOIP phone) and that both companies should be allowed to use the "iPhone" name. I suspect this is why Apple's spokespeople having been heard repeating publicly the mantra that Apple is the first company to use the name "iPhone" for a cell phone. 2) Apple may try using the "McDonald's" defense. A trademark argument most famously used by our beloved fastfood chain, that anything that has a "Mc" in front of it, even if it has nothing to do with food (McPhone, McTshirt, McHouse, etc), is reasonably associated in the public's mind with our favorite global peddler of transfat-enriched food products and that McDonald's, by virtue of its marketing success, owns the entire family of potential trademarks. I think this argument is quaint, but weak. "i" is too weak as a distinguishing trademark, especially today. Too many products by too many companies are already out there for Apple to argue now that they somehow should have a monopoly on "i". They might of tried this a decade ago when the "iMacs" first started coming out, but too late now, me thinks. 3) The name "iPhone" may actually be too generic a term for any one company to claim exclusive ownership within an identifiable industry sector. In other words, both Apple AND Cisco may be able to use the name for their products. I'm no expert and I haven't spent much time thinking about this issue, so I'm sure there are plenty of other legal arguments Apple could make. Anyway, who cares? Clash of the titans, let the jousting begin! And the Apple phone looks like it could have some serious potential. I'd hold off on purchasing one though until it's gone through a few iterations first. The "iPhone" won't be a mature product for another two or three years at least. But there is little doubt Apple has another hit on its hands. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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mensrea
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Mynock
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Ouch? (BTW, for people never really getting into any of the iFad (like me) - what exactly is it that made me "change the way I look at music" in an iPod? Cause I honestly never understood what's so significantly different about an iPod and an mp3 player except for the HD space and the price.) -Mynock | ||
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Pressure
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
Me wants! And to all of you people complaining about 600$, I can assure you the danish price will not be lower than 800$.. Stupid danish prices... | ||
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Hans-Titan
Denmark1711 Posts
Me wants! And to all of you people complaining about 600$, I can assure you the danish price will not be lower than 800$.. Stupid danish prices... | ||
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dredredre
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This is how you will be remembered. | ||
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asel
Germany1599 Posts
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zdd
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On January 13 2007 14:58 dredredre wrote: All of you are mindless consumer sheep. An irreplacable part of the corporate ladder, the bottom rung. The masters offer you a new toy, and you obey. You never disappoint. This is how you will be remembered. Capitalism is going to be around for a long time, because it's fueled by greed. Countless utopian schemes have been tried, and nothing has worked, so it's for the best. | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
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decafchicken
United States20019 Posts
On January 13 2007 15:16 Yogurt wrote: when are they coming out with the iwasteofmoney? code name is ipod | ||
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On January 13 2007 15:16 Yogurt wrote: when are they coming out with the iwasteofmoney? it is not wast of money if did not just buy a new iPod or/and a new cell and if you like style. In the states it will be out arround June in Europe unfortunatly later, arround November. And <3 rea :D toooo bad i never see you online ;( | ||
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lil.sis
China4650 Posts
you're wrong sysco is a bulk food distributor WOOWOO | ||
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GuYuTe-
United States550 Posts
On January 13 2007 14:58 dredredre wrote: All of you are mindless consumer sheep. An irreplacable part of the corporate ladder, the bottom rung. The masters offer you a new toy, and you obey. You never disappoint. This is how you will be remembered. LOL, don't you have better things to do? Like maybe cutting yourself while you wallow in the misery of your existence? | ||
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decafchicken
United States20019 Posts
On January 13 2007 19:56 GuYuTe- wrote: LOL, don't you have better things to do? Like maybe cutting yourself while you wallow in the misery of your existence? The cutting insult is getting old. | ||
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Gandalf
Pakistan1905 Posts
13 reasons to doubt the iPhone hype Quoted verbatim for the lazy: The honeymoon is over for the iPhone. It's not that we're sick of it already (well, maybe a bit), it's just time for it to answer some questions. Otherwise, it may join the Sony PS3 in the realm of "tech that looks absolutely amazing but is far too expensive for most people to even consider buying." Apple's iPhone: A mystery wrapped in an enigma smothered in question-mark sauce. Here, accompanied by rambling speculation, are those questions: 1. Why no 3G compatibility? The answer might be as simple as the fact that Cingular's 3G coverage still has gaping holes outside of major U.S. cities. The 3G question is very pertinent to those who want to stream video and audio to their phone at any time. But that requires living in an area with great 3G network coverage, and 3G will drain a battery faster than the 2.5G EDGE network. 2. Does the lack of 3G matter if the iPhone has Wi-Fi? If the user wants to only occasionally stream media or download files, the iPhone's Wi-Fi capabilities should scratch that itch...but only if you're at a Wi-Fi hot spot and not using it in the backseat of a car, on the train, or sitting on a park bench. And Wi-Fi will have just as much--probably more--of a draining effect on the iPhone's battery. 3. What's under the hood? Nobody knows for sure. According to this Information Week article, the iPhone is likely have a Samsung CPU and video processor. If it's true, this may help explain the similarity in specs between the Samsung BlackJack and the Apple iPhone. For what it's worth, the BlackJack performed very well in our Web browsing and video tests. 4. Can you download directly from iTunes? This looks to be a big disappointment with the iPhone. Early reports, such as this iTWire interview with Apple's VP of iPod Products Greg Joswiak, say no. From the iTWire article: The Apple VP also quashed any speculation that the iPhone itself may house a self-contained version of iTunes. "iTunes was designed to exist on the Mac and PCs. That's where the music should live." Don't tell me where my music should and should not live, homeboy! I want it to live on my iPhone! Regardless of where my music wants to live, if Apple is touting the iPhone as a device that runs Mac OS X, doesn't that make the iPhone a Mac? Which brings us to the next question... 5. Just what does Apple mean by "it runs OS X"? And what do they mean by "multitasking"?During his keynote address, Steve Jobs mentioned the ability to multitask as one of Mac OS X's strong suits, as well as a reason why the operating system was chosen for the iPhone. Given the lack of 3G compatibility, that "multitasking" must be limited to applications within Mac OS X, not "multitasking" in the sense of being able to download a file while talking on the phone. That's the kind of "multitask" that 3G networks are built to do. Which begs the question: Who will really multitask between OS X applications on a mobile, touch screen device? At what point will anyone be simultaneously typing a document, formulating a spreadsheet, and composing a song on GarageBand on the iPhone? Playing media content while surfing the Web is technically multitasking, but it's possible that the iPhone will only be able to perform one of its three main functions at any given time: It's either an iPod, an "Internet device," or a phone, but it may not be able to do more than one function at a time. That doesn't sound like a big deal right now, but it could lead to an embarrassing situation if you're using your iPhone as a jukebox at a party when a call comes in. In all probability, the iPhone will run a watered-down version of OS X, with built-in restrictions on how the operating system can be used. No full iTunes. Probably no Skype or VoIP phone calls. It may be able to run "desktop-class applications and software," as Apple's iPhone site purports, but that's not the same thing as actual desktop applications. 6. Will it actually be called the iPhone? Not if Cisco has anything to say about it. Will it be the iPhod? The iCell? The iThing? The iCaramba? And will the iPhone have the same appeal with a different name? It might. After all, the name "iPod" doesn't exactly scream "music!" 7. Who's this phone for, anyway? Who can afford this thing? This answer is simple: Paris Hilton. The iPhone looks to be the next glamour phone, albeit one with serious potential. It's billed as a "smart phone," which brings to mind business users. At $599 for the 8GB model and $499 for the 4GB model, it's definitely priced for business users. But as Tom Krazit and Declan McCullagh kindly point out: 1. Yahoo e-mail isn't going to cut it in the business world. 2. It's unknown which business applications will be available for the iPhone. 3. Will there be file-compatibility issues between the iPhone and Windows-centric businesses? Remember, the Vista age is almost upon us, and even next-generation Windows programs may have issues with files created in older versions. If you add everything up, the iPhone looks like a starter smart phone for twentysomethings who just got a fat raise. It could even be compared to a touch screen Sidekick 3 Pro. At least the Sidekick has a mini-SD card slot so that you can expand its storage capacity, which brings us to... 8. Will Apple give the user any freedom? Want to know why there's no memory card slots on the iPhone, nor will there likely be a user-replaceable battery? Because Apple doesn't want you to lay a finger on its phone without paying the piper. Anyone who owns an iPod knows how hard it is to replace the battery, replace a dead hard drive, or fix the thing without going through Apple. Anyone who owns a Mac computer also knows how hard it is to upgrade any internal components without going through Apple. If you can figure out how to do these things yourself, you'll break the warranty. If you go through Apple, you'll probably have to give them more money in the process. The iPhone is likely to be no different. To fix it, you'll probably have to bring it to an Apple Store. To expand it, you'll probably have to buy a new iPhone. Note: iPhones are still expensive. While we're on the topic of user freedom, what about the software aspect of the phone? It's unknown whether users will be able to write their own software or run third-party programs on the iPhone without breaking the warranty. It's quite possible that the iPhone's only programs will be Apple iPhone programs. 9. How much more than the unit price will the iPhone cost?As expensive as the iPhone is, it may get insanely unaffordable once you add in the monthly charges. To get the most out of the iPhone, you'll likely need a voice plan, a data plan, and possibly Cingular's own Wi-Fi plan. Cingular has special data plans for its BlackBerry phones, and it's possible, if not likely, that the iPhone will have its own special plan prices. But if that's not the case, be prepared to pay through the nose. If you look at the costs of Cingular's low-end voice plan (450 minutes/month for $39.99), unlimited data plan ($44.99/month), and unlimited Wi-Fi plan ($99.99/month), you may need to tack on an extra $100 to $200 per month to use your iPhone to the fullest. Also of note: Cingular charges a $175 fee for early contract termination. 10. Is this another iLock-in strategy?The iPhone is the only phone that runs Mac OS X, and probably will be for the foreseeable future. Judging from the iPod's seamless, user-friendly integration with iTunes, Apple is sure to unveil iPhone-management programs that make managing contact info and other data as painless as possible. And that might actually be the problem. Imagine this: You buy an iPhone, you manage all your iPhone's data on your computer--contacts, music, files--and your iPhone kicks the bucket...dead battery, iPhone icon with x-ed-out eyes, whatever. What now? Unless there are third-party programs to send your data to another phone, the easiest way--and possibly the only way--to get all that data onto another phone will be to buy another iPhone. Note: iPhones are still expensive. 11. Just how useful is the touch screen? The iPhone user interface looks elegant, innovative, and easy-to-use, but is it the best interface for a device like this? Whenever you do anything, the iPhone will command your full visual attention. "No buttons" may be sexy, but it also means you can't do anything without looking at the phone. The iPhone's iPod usability may suffer even worse from the touch screen. Have you ever tried to operate an iPod while it's in your pocket? You can do it, but it's hard. The iPhone will make blind iPod-surfing downright impossible. That said, it looks like the iPhone will eliminate accidental pocket-dialing once and for all. 12. Will early adopters be the only adopters?If the iPhone takes the world by storm, other manufacturers and carriers will borrow the iPhone's most popular features. And they'll probably offer them at a lower price. 13. What goes into a cell-phone purchase? Cell phones aren't MP3 players. Even if Apple has the sexiest phone out there, many important factors come into play when anyone buys a cell phone. * How pleased is the user with the carrier? * What other phones are out there? * What will the phone primarily be used for? * How important is it to have the "it" phone of the moment? And is price no object? Apple seems to be banking on the last factor being the most important. But is having "it" it? If so, the iPhone may simply be iRon pyrite. | ||
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Yogurt
United States4258 Posts
btw decaf wtf is your quote supposed to mean???? | ||
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skyglow1
New Zealand3962 Posts
On January 14 2007 21:19 Yogurt wrote: btw decaf wtf is your quote supposed to mean???? [Edit] Nvm I'm dumb | ||
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