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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
March 29 2015 04:32 GMT
#21
Well this is another leap in performance, with the last one being S3 or S4.

The technical specs look mighty impressive, even though I'm not a big fan of the Samsung software.

Only wish there was some way to increase battery energy storage density, but improving on Lipos as far as I can tell it is impossible without switching to a different mode of storage outside of chemical bonds, which were likely long away from.
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QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 05:35:27
March 29 2015 05:00 GMT
#22
On March 29 2015 13:32 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Well this is another leap in performance, with the last one being S3 or S4.

The technical specs look mighty impressive, even though I'm not a big fan of the Samsung software.

Only wish there was some way to increase battery energy storage density, but improving on Lipos as far as I can tell it is impossible without switching to a different mode of storage outside of chemical bonds, which were likely long away from.


The battery, while slimmed down, is actually better than the iPhone 6 according to this review. However it's noticeably worse than the Galaxy Note 4's battery.

Samsung had to choose between keeping the phone slim to make the S6 aesthetically pleasing or to increase battery size (compromising thinness).

Samsung chose to make the S6 slimmer than its predecessor and I think they did a pretty solid balancing act without compromising battery life too much.

Currently there is research going into graphene battery technology. It's nowhere near implementation stages and it will take decades for the technology to mature. Until then, Li-Ion technology is the most reliable and advanced battery technology that is suitable for smartphones.

EDIT: I just came across this on Anandtech:
Galaxy S6 drop test


I wouldn't want to get into an argument this girl!
The glass on the Galaxy S6 seems like it's invincible!
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
March 29 2015 05:18 GMT
#23
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51607 Posts
March 29 2015 05:32 GMT
#24
On March 28 2015 05:48 always_winter wrote:
"Alright gentlemen, let's get down to business. We need to upgrade the Galaxy, and we need to sustain our market share."

"Is the integrity of our design team relevant?"

"Absolutely not."

"Well Apple just made their screen a lil bit bigger and the world ate that shit up."

"You, sir, have just earned yourself a raise."

-Important Samsung meeting


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QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 09:40:37
March 29 2015 05:34 GMT
#25
On March 29 2015 14:18 Cyro wrote:
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0


I think it's just the camera bitrate & motion rate discrepancy between the camera and the Super AMOLED screen that makes it look laggy.

Super AMOLED screens have a 1000X faster response time than LCD screens (it's a reason why some prefer Super AMOLEDs over LCDs especially when it comes to media consumption) which means that this may warp an external camera's video recording..

I came across the camera bitrate effect while experimenting with Adobe Premiere Pro.

EDIT: looking at the video again it seems like the girl just swiped up&down at the times when the screen didn't move.
So it wasn't a lag issue at all.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 07:47:29
March 29 2015 07:44 GMT
#26
On March 29 2015 14:34 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 14:18 Cyro wrote:
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0


I think it's just the camera bitrate & motion rate discrepancy between the camera and the Super AMOLED screen that makes it look laggy.

Super AMOLED screens have a 1000X faster response time than LCD screens (it's a reason why some prefer Super AMOLEDs over LCDs especially when it comes to media consumption) which means that this may warp an external camera's video recording..

I came across the camera bitrate effect while experimenting with Adobe Premiere Pro.


Response time and input lag are (unintuitively) completely different things.

Response time refers to the time that pixels take to change color, while input lag is the delay between performing an action and it actually being shown to you.

That still looks like it has a lag of ~100ms and further delay due to lag/freezing when switching between screens etc, like pretty much every smartphone ever. IDK why nobody has made any progress there.

You can very clearly see her finger moving, but the screen not scrolling for a fraction of a second or even longer at times. It's happening IRL (like on every other smartphone and tablet pretty much ever) and not just a camera problem
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24004 Posts
March 29 2015 08:56 GMT
#27
I think the thing I like the most about this is it will make it easier to get a cheap S5.

I don't think I'll actually be excited for phone until it's got a flexible screen that makes it more practically portable.
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QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-29 09:51:15
March 29 2015 09:42 GMT
#28
On March 29 2015 16:44 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 14:34 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
On March 29 2015 14:18 Cyro wrote:
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0


I think it's just the camera bitrate & motion rate discrepancy between the camera and the Super AMOLED screen that makes it look laggy.

Super AMOLED screens have a 1000X faster response time than LCD screens (it's a reason why some prefer Super AMOLEDs over LCDs especially when it comes to media consumption) which means that this may warp an external camera's video recording..

I came across the camera bitrate effect while experimenting with Adobe Premiere Pro.


Response time and input lag are (unintuitively) completely different things.

Response time refers to the time that pixels take to change color, while input lag is the delay between performing an action and it actually being shown to you.

That still looks like it has a lag of ~100ms and further delay due to lag/freezing when switching between screens etc, like pretty much every smartphone ever. IDK why nobody has made any progress there.

You can very clearly see her finger moving, but the screen not scrolling for a fraction of a second or even longer at times. It's happening IRL (like on every other smartphone and tablet pretty much ever) and not just a camera problem


Sorry I thought you meant the screen flickering.

BTW if you look at the video closely, at the times the screen didn't move, she actually gestured up & down (or at an angle that was more vertical than horizontal) rather than sideways. Also she was tapping at the screen at times so the screen didn't move. Towards the end, she pressed the home button, so again nothing to do with gesturing sideways.

So it wasn't a lag issue at all.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
March 29 2015 23:31 GMT
#29
On March 29 2015 18:42 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 16:44 Cyro wrote:
On March 29 2015 14:34 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
On March 29 2015 14:18 Cyro wrote:
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0


I think it's just the camera bitrate & motion rate discrepancy between the camera and the Super AMOLED screen that makes it look laggy.

Super AMOLED screens have a 1000X faster response time than LCD screens (it's a reason why some prefer Super AMOLEDs over LCDs especially when it comes to media consumption) which means that this may warp an external camera's video recording..

I came across the camera bitrate effect while experimenting with Adobe Premiere Pro.


Response time and input lag are (unintuitively) completely different things.

Response time refers to the time that pixels take to change color, while input lag is the delay between performing an action and it actually being shown to you.

That still looks like it has a lag of ~100ms and further delay due to lag/freezing when switching between screens etc, like pretty much every smartphone ever. IDK why nobody has made any progress there.

You can very clearly see her finger moving, but the screen not scrolling for a fraction of a second or even longer at times. It's happening IRL (like on every other smartphone and tablet pretty much ever) and not just a camera problem


Sorry I thought you meant the screen flickering.

BTW if you look at the video closely, at the times the screen didn't move, she actually gestured up & down (or at an angle that was more vertical than horizontal) rather than sideways. Also she was tapping at the screen at times so the screen didn't move. Towards the end, she pressed the home button, so again nothing to do with gesturing sideways.

So it wasn't a lag issue at all.


Aha thanks for those

you can still see the lag though in the first 5 seconds very clearly
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 02:52:40
March 30 2015 02:37 GMT
#30
On March 30 2015 08:31 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 29 2015 18:42 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
On March 29 2015 16:44 Cyro wrote:
On March 29 2015 14:34 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
On March 29 2015 14:18 Cyro wrote:
^That UI is sooooo laggy :0


I think it's just the camera bitrate & motion rate discrepancy between the camera and the Super AMOLED screen that makes it look laggy.

Super AMOLED screens have a 1000X faster response time than LCD screens (it's a reason why some prefer Super AMOLEDs over LCDs especially when it comes to media consumption) which means that this may warp an external camera's video recording..

I came across the camera bitrate effect while experimenting with Adobe Premiere Pro.


Response time and input lag are (unintuitively) completely different things.

Response time refers to the time that pixels take to change color, while input lag is the delay between performing an action and it actually being shown to you.

That still looks like it has a lag of ~100ms and further delay due to lag/freezing when switching between screens etc, like pretty much every smartphone ever. IDK why nobody has made any progress there.

You can very clearly see her finger moving, but the screen not scrolling for a fraction of a second or even longer at times. It's happening IRL (like on every other smartphone and tablet pretty much ever) and not just a camera problem


Sorry I thought you meant the screen flickering.

BTW if you look at the video closely, at the times the screen didn't move, she actually gestured up & down (or at an angle that was more vertical than horizontal) rather than sideways. Also she was tapping at the screen at times so the screen didn't move. Towards the end, she pressed the home button, so again nothing to do with gesturing sideways.

So it wasn't a lag issue at all.


Aha thanks for those

you can still see the lag though in the first 5 seconds very clearly


Certainly looks like a bit of stutter but still not sure if that's actual lag because the video is 240p.
I have yet to see real lag on videos on the Galaxy S6 & S6 Edge on other videos though. Such as this:




And here's another video by a different reviewer:
Skip to 1:50 where he starts to use the phone and watch until the end. No lag is evident here.



Skip to about 4:30 and you'll see him swiping at the screen. There is virtually no lag. The times the screen didn't move was when the screen didn't register the swipe (probably various reasons including the fact that swipes need to be a certain length to be registered by a smartphone touchscreen).

Here is another video of the same guy with the Galaxy S6 Edge this time:



So I think the other video I linked with the girl smashing the phone was actually not lag, but looks like lag. A the start, I can definitely notice some stuttering. But this may be due to the effect I was talking about with Super AMOLED displays.

I could be wrong, and it could be lag.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-30 05:14:22
March 30 2015 05:11 GMT
#31
Skip to about 4:30 and you'll see him swiping at the screen. There is virtually no lag.


There's a noticable time delay between the action and it being represented on screen that's probably 5x more obvious when you're actually using the device

take a look at this

"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
March 30 2015 08:23 GMT
#32
Higher quality video:



Confirms that there wasn't any lag.
Cyro
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom20332 Posts
March 30 2015 18:51 GMT
#33
On March 30 2015 17:23 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
Higher quality video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8kVfBROq-E

Confirms that there wasn't any lag.


There's the usual delay when interacting with the screen in any way, 50ms+ (maybe 100ms) - there's always some amount of delay, it's just different depending on hardware and software (and very unusually high on smartphone/tablet touchscreens compared to even regular PC usage)

If you can't see it there, you just don't know what to look for
"oh my god my overclock... I got a single WHEA error on the 23rd hour, 9 minutes" -Belial88
QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
March 31 2015 00:57 GMT
#34
On March 31 2015 03:51 Cyro wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2015 17:23 QuantumTeleportation wrote:
Higher quality video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8kVfBROq-E

Confirms that there wasn't any lag.


There's the usual delay when interacting with the screen in any way, 50ms+ (maybe 100ms) - there's always some amount of delay, it's just different depending on hardware and software (and very unusually high on smartphone/tablet touchscreens compared to even regular PC usage)

If you can't see it there, you just don't know what to look for


Oh yeah there's definitely some delay on that screen in the first 5 seconds or so.

I wouldn't necessarily call it laggy though. If you mean that it's laggy in that there is delay, then I guess you could say all displays these days have some kind of lag.

But yeah I agree, there are some delay issues with the video. For example, there is some noticeable delay when she swipes to the right to bring the app (some sort of social media/news app?).

By the way, here is another (and more impressive) drop test:



The Galaxy S6 Edge survives an 8 feet drop! This is beyond impressive IMO. That phone is literally indestructible in any everyday situation that involves dropping your phone. I know my iPhone 5 wouldn't survive that, nor would any other phone on the market.

Perhaps the next iPhone 6s may get the newest Corning glass found on the Galaxy S6 & S6 Edge.

I don't know why any other new phones are not using the new Corning glass. I think it's most likely due to costs. Corning glass is the most expensive glass for displays on the market.
skyR
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada13817 Posts
March 31 2015 01:46 GMT
#35
I'm pretty sure HTC One M9 is also using Gorilla Glass 4 but you do realize that Gorilla Glass 4 only came out a few months ago and that like LG and Sony hasn't announced their flagships yet.
[Phantom]
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Mexico2170 Posts
March 31 2015 02:29 GMT
#36
Meh but this "the thinner the better" trend is terrible.

First of all, you people don't like the worse battery life? Well, if the phone was ticker, it would be posible to have a larger battery there. It doesnt even has to be super tick, since the Moto Maxx has 2 days battery life withouth being a brick.

Also, IDK whats the point of making the phone thiner, if thats going to make the camara stand out of the device, making it easier to scratch, not being able to rest the device on a surface because it will move, and as I said, it doesn't look bad and they could put a bigger battery there.

Samsung phones will always be more laggy than others, they put too much stuff there. Most of it isn't really useful. But they are good devices.
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QuantumTeleportation
Profile Joined March 2015
United States119 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-31 02:44:35
March 31 2015 02:38 GMT
#37
On March 31 2015 10:46 skyR wrote:
I'm pretty sure HTC One M9 is also using Gorilla Glass 4 but you do realize that Gorilla Glass 4 only came out a few months ago and that like LG and Sony hasn't announced their flagships yet.


Hey actually you're right, the HTC One M9 also uses Corning's Gorilla Glass 4.

So I guess that adds to the list of devices that use Gorilla Glass 4.

I think Sony said the Z4 will be their last smartphone which sucks because they made good smartphones. Although this has not been 100% confirmed.

The iPhone 6s and LG G4 will probably use Gorilla Glass 4 as well if we go by the trend.
ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12726 Posts
March 31 2015 07:17 GMT
#38
we might be seeing a break through in Battery tech soon.
Search for FLCB. Hoping this tech be more matured in a year or two.
This can make for some awesome battery slim case

But with the quick charge feature I think the phone battery life shouldn't be a concern.
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SoSexy
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Italy3725 Posts
March 31 2015 08:58 GMT
#39
I wouldn't care at all abut battery life if I could recharge it in 3 seconds.
Dating thread on TL LUL
excitedBear
Profile Joined March 2015
Austria120 Posts
March 31 2015 09:10 GMT
#40
I'm waiting for something like this:
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Solar powered smart phones.
If calculators can do it, why not smart phones?
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