EPTAnyway's that I enjoy that interview because i hadnt seen much on Bernier not totally sold on the guy but it was at least interesting.
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
Anyway's that I enjoy that interview because i hadnt seen much on Bernier not totally sold on the guy but it was at least interesting. | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom10021 Posts
On February 01 2019 22:50 Taelshin wrote: wait, you don't like the Rubin report? he's had tons of awesome guests on there and they get a good amount of time to talk about what they are about. Dave can sometimes be a bit cringey but What's your issue with it exactly? Anyway's that I enjoy that interview because i hadnt seen much on Bernier not totally sold on the guy but it was at least interesting. Rubin will have white nationalist ethnostate types like Stefan Molyneux on his show without even a hint of challenge to their awful racist bullshit and then try and present it as centrism. He is a nazi sympathizer in the truest meaning of the word. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24459 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:00 Jockmcplop wrote: Rubin will have white nationalist ethnostate types like Stefan Molyneux on his show without even a hint of challenge to their awful racist bullshit and then try and present it as centrism. He is a nazi sympathizer in the truest meaning of the word. I'm not sure those two things are exclusive. I bet centrists agree with him more than they'd like to admit, at least judging by who I see retweet him when he's not talking to nazi's. Many centrists argue Nazi's should be defeated on the battlefield of ideas over here, not sure how that works over there besides Germany where they make them use Confederate flags or something instead? It was big when Alex Jones got booted of a bunch of platforms I really am an ignorant Merican  | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
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Taelshin
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:27 Taelshin wrote: Isn't TYT funded by some massive billionaire backer? I dunno anyways I don't agree with you at all about him making the world worse but as I said , to each his own. You shouldn't write off every guest he has just because you don't like the host, that seems petty and you might miss out on someone who really speaks to your ideals. TYT is mostly funded by members but they do have some backers, you're right. If you can show that their views have been influenced by that reality, have at it. I have not seen that but I also don't watch them a lot anymore, they're not as leftwing as I'd like. That should tell you enough about whether Rubin's guests speak to my ideals. Either way the case is extremely easy to make for Rubin, he has zero consistency to his views and his changes of opinion just happen to coincide with his changes of moneymaking schemes. He is unarguably a sellout, and he sells out for the worst. Including Bolsonaro. Imagine going to Brazil as a gay man and saying that Bolsonaro is a cool dude and he only looks bad because the media is doing some leftist conspiracy against him. God I hope the money's worth it. | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24459 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:38 Nebuchad wrote: TYT is mostly funded by members but they do have some backers, you're right. If you can show that their views have been influenced by that reality, have at it. I have not seen that but I also don't watch them a lot anymore, they're not as leftwing as I'd like. That should tell you enough about whether Rubin's guests speak to my ideals. Either way the case is extremely easy to make for Rubin, he has zero consistency to his views and his changes of opinion just happen to coincide with his changes of moneymaking schemes. He is unarguably a sellout, and he sells out for the worst. Including Bolsonaro. Imagine going to Brazil as a gay man and saying that Bolsonaro is a cool dude and he only looks bad because the media is doing some leftist conspiracy against him. God I hope the money's worth it. lol, what a dumbass. Has he learned about him since or is he just letting that linger? | ||
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Plansix
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
Kinda off topic but on topic, I feel like we need to have some sort of western cultural / media thread or something to discuss these things rather then any of the political forums getting into these type of things which does happen fairly often. EDIT: It's been a while since I watched the Stefan episode It was posted on nov 9th 2017 but If I remember right he did comment to SM that his views on IQ and such were controversial. Maybe that's not enough push back for you guys but as it goes by listening to someone speak your able to decide for your self if their idea's are bad or not. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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JimmiC
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
Edit: Calling Stefan's views of IQ controversial is some weak ass shit. His views on IQ are straight up out of racism 101. | ||
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Taelshin
Canada420 Posts
Obviously im not gonna win this one so I YIELD friends Ill make sure I never link the RR here again! | ||
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farvacola
United States18870 Posts
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:57 JimmiC wrote: Yes it is my view that Politicians personal view on issues is indicated by tweets from their personal accounts. It doesn't frustrate me that you disagree with me. It is frustrating that you know almost nothing on the subject and make sweeping statements of fact based on only your biases and assumptions. And your ignorance goes as far as you basing your opinion you treat as fact on the titles of articles you don't even bother to read. It also shows a little bit about your character when you search my name to come attack me in here when you have never posted here before. What? I didn't search your name! I wasn't even attacking you. I was making a pithy one-liner about twitter being a shit forum for politics! You were the one who took that neutral one-liner and actually did attack me. NEWSFLASH: The world does not revolve around you, and I don't spare you the slightest thought. The only people I've ever searched on TL were GH and XDaunt, in both cases because I was looking for some old posts they'd made and couldn't remember what threads they made them in. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On February 02 2019 00:06 Taelshin wrote: Is it the job of the interviewer to push there own views and conclusions on the interviewee or are some people just not worthy of being aloud to speak(and who gets to decide whats worthy or not)? Obviously im not gonna win this one so I YIELD friends Ill make sure I never link the RR here again! Why shouldn’t they? Is the interviewer not capable of thought or drawing conclusions? If someone shows up on that stage and starts spouts white nationalist propaganda, should in the interviewer not point that out? White Nationalist are not there for the debate. They are not there to have a discussion or have their ideas challenged. They are there to promote their view of the world and get more people to agree with them, while also making efforts to discredit anyone who opposes them. Any host that willfully unaware of this dynamic is either naïve, staggeringly stupid or willing to make money off White Nationalism. | ||
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Nebuchad
Switzerland12610 Posts
On February 01 2019 23:44 GreenHorizons wrote: lol, what a dumbass. Has he learned about him since or is he just letting that linger? I don't know. Haven't heard any retractions but I wouldn't have heard them. Did a quick Twitter search and found nothing so my guess is he lets that linger, that's his style. On February 01 2019 23:50 Taelshin wrote: It's been a while since I watched the Stefan episode It was posted on nov 9th 2017 but If I remember right he did comment to SM that his views on IQ and such were controversial. Maybe that's not enough push back for you guys but as it goes by listening to someone speak your able to decide for your self if their idea's are bad or not. I'll never tire of posting some Innuendo Studios I think. Here is the relevant one in this case! On February 02 2019 00:06 Taelshin wrote: Is it the job of the interviewer to push there own views and conclusions on the interviewee or are some people just not worthy of being aloud to speak(and who gets to decide whats worthy or not)? You could start with the people who are blatantly lying on your show. Some interviewers would take issue with that, they would feel that it devalues their program. | ||
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JimmiC
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