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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://www.cbc.ca/radio/asithappens/canada-making-a-dangerous-mistake-by-picking-sides-in-venezuela-says-prof-1.5008118 "Canada making a dangerous mistake by picking sides in Venezuela" In a perfect North America where the PM and Prez get along great Canada could probably play Venezuala more down the middle than the USA is. However, we don't have that great a relationship with the USA and Trudeau and Trump ain't exactly best pals. | ||
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PhoenixVoid
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/toronto/article-toronto-police-seize-drugs-firearms-in-major-bust/ https://www.mississauga.com/news-story/9077433--taking-down-a-criminal-operation-grenades-seized-8-mississauga-and-brampton-men-charged-in-massive-guns-and-drugs-sting/ Gang activity is behind the spike in violence and murders in 2018 in both Toronto and Peel region. https://globalnews.ca/news/4689456/toronto-murder-statistics/ "But what’s happening in Toronto this year (and last) isn’t complicated. It’s criminal gangs. This isn’t a secret. John Tory, the mayor of Toronto, saw this clearly enough before he got frustrated ...." I say the increased gang warfare is due to a power vacuum created by major gang busts early in 2018. Fountainhead Avenue is gonna be a shooting gallery again this summer and I think we're going to see murder and violence #s similar to 2018 ... this year. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-testifies-justice-committee-1.5035219 https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/jody-wilson-raybould-testimony-justin-trudeau-pmo i don't think they'll get Trudeau to resign. Chretien was a 1000X better power broker than Justin. Its sad the calibre of politician Canada has today compared to 15+ years ago. For those outside of Canada looking in... CBC is generally the "left wing" mainstream media outlet. the National Post is a prominent "right wing" mainstream media outlet. I thought it was important to get both perspectives. | ||
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Rebs
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On February 28 2019 09:55 JimmyJRaynor wrote: Wow, this snc lavalin thing sure went bad in a hurry. Trudeau is going to talk in 5 minutes somewhere in Montreal. My grandma is ranting and raving about it... so its probably important. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/wilson-raybould-testifies-justice-committee-1.5035219 https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/jody-wilson-raybould-testimony-justin-trudeau-pmo i don't think they'll get Trudeau to resign. Chretien was a 1000X better power broker than Justin. Its sad the calibre of politician Canada has today compared to 15+ years ago. For those outside of Canada looking in... CBC is generally the "left wing" mainstream media outlet. the National Post is a prominent "right wing" mainstream media outlet. I thought it was important to get both perspectives. Any Govt would have done this, Liberal or Conservative so I find the opposition frothing that he should resign to be a crock of shit. The fact of the matter is there was a case to be made for the common good through the DPA and thats what the PMO wanted to protect. Sometimes trying to be a justice crusader to the effect Wilson Raybould was being is not the best approach. They could still have meted out justice appropriately through the DPA and kept thousands of real hard working people from getting fucked. Regardless she was well within her rights to pursue the case as she wanted to and tbh the PMO pressure was inappropriate, atleast to the degree it was piled on her. | ||
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Ben...
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On February 28 2019 10:30 Rebs wrote: Any Govt would have done this, Liberal or Conservative so I find the opposition frothing that he should resign to be a crock of shit. I agree 100%. I read the CBC article. Did what some of the PMO staff do seem out of line? Yes. But with how I read it, it was more of a "Hey this will have huge ramifications if it goes badly so don't fuck up" vibe than them telling her to make the investigation go away (which is something I keep seeing being claimed). It sounds like a couple staff may have gone a bit too far. However, she even says outright that Trudeau didn't tell her to interfere, just find a solution that doesn't cost a bunch of people their jobs. And he even repeated when asked about it today that he was mostly concerned with the fact that SNC employs so many people. And yeah, Scheer and the Conservatives are predictably doing what they always do: hypocritical fake-outrage. The Conservatives are the last people to be throwing stones about activities of the PMO given the issues Harper's PMO had (like the whole Senate scandal thing where his PMO basically collaborated to pay for Mike Duffy's expense issues). I said from day 1 that this 100% feels like yet another of many attempts by the Conservatives to try and find a scandal to latch onto the Liberals in an election year. Even the head privy council person last week (who is required to be bipartisan and was hired by Harper) seemed quite skeptical of the whole thing and was concerned that it was being used as an issue to divide the country rather than actually be looked at and investigated. | ||
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JimmyJRaynor
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i don't follow the liberals closely enough to know how good this article is... but it is interesting. https://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2019/02/27/3-things-trudeau-must-do-now-to-save-himself-the-liberal-party.html To the most prominent male feminist in canadian history i have just one question... aren't i supposed to "believe all women" LOL. | ||
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JimmiC
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Rebs
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That is a genuine problem. If they put the rule in specifically for SNC Lavalin then that means other companies can start asking for and might get similar things. I dont doubt for a second that any other govt wouldnt do the same thing, but its not a good look at all. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmyJRaynor
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if Chretien had continued running for PM after 2003 i'd have voted Liberal despite the sponsorship scandal. imo, Chretien did such a good job in so many big areas it was worth it to tolerate the sponsorship scandal. Speaking of corruption.. A guy at the top of the OPP who doesn't get along with Doug Ford just got fired. What a coincidence. If Doug Ford does a good job I'll vote for him again if I'm still eligible to vote in Ontario. https://torontosun.com/news/provincial/breaking-opp-deputy-commish-fired John Candy died 25 years ago today.... this political parody Candy does here reminds me a lot of Doug Ford. John Candy was a comedic genius. | ||
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Rebs
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On March 05 2019 02:58 JimmyJRaynor wrote: meh, there is corruption every where. it depends on the size and scale of the corruption and how good of a job the guy did if Chretien had continued running for PM after 2003 i'd have voted Liberal despite the sponsorship scandal. imo, Chretien did such a good job in so many big areas it was worth it to tolerate the sponsorship scandal. I agree, but at the end of the day what matters is the optics of it and how well its managed, and this hasnt been managed that well. Then again maybe there isnt a way to manage it well in this day and age. Ill reiterate I fall onto the side that says the DPA is the right thing to do here regardless of whether its Liberal voters or whatever. The argument the article JimmiC shared makes about those jobs going to other companies and being taken up regardless is a poor one. It doesnt account for the disruption,anxiety and hardship that the actual people employed would face. Even if eventually most of those same people fall into close the gaps. And why sell those people down the river with the argument of "well other people will still get jobs". Thats kind of a shit thing to do. Dealing with big business is a difficult balancing act. I agree that companies shouldnt be to big to fail, but then some just are and a corporation in itself isnt the problem anyway, its the people running it. And thats where the focus should be. | ||
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JimmiC
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PhoenixVoid
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Things just keep getting worse and worse for Trudeau's inner circle. | ||
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CorsairHero
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JimmyJRaynor
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this american guy in the video provides some background info on why google made this move. | ||
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OmniEulogy
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 From the sounds of it, places like Facebook would also need to check for this wouldn't they? I wonder how they'll react or if they'll even do anything at all. | ||
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Ben...
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Things appear to be getting ugly for Doug Ford in Ontario. It's starting to look a lot like he was involved in rigging a hiring process to get a family friend in a high place, and a place that would investigate any potential legal issues relating to the government at that. On March 06 2019 12:36 OmniEulogy wrote: From the sounds of it, places like Facebook would also need to check for this wouldn't they? I wonder how they'll react or if they'll even do anything at all. It's Facebook, they won't do anything until legally required to. That's what they've done many times in the past. It took an incredibly long time after the 2016 US election for them to admit that their advertising and recommendation system had been abused by bad actors, and even longer for any changes to be done to it. | ||
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