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Although this thread does not function under the same strict guidelines as the USPMT, it is still a general practice on TL to provide a source with an explanation on why it is relevant and what purpose it adds to the discussion. Failure to do so will result in a mod action.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-06 16:22:34
March 06 2019 16:21 GMT
#1101
On March 07 2019 00:33 Ben... wrote:
The Gerald Butts testimony is going on right now. I just listened to his opening statement, which does seem to confirm my suspicions that there is a lot more to this story than JWR was saying and that she might have been exaggerating things quite a bit in some cases. He said both of his meetings with her were scheduled at her request. He also seemingly has brought documentary evidence to back up at least some of his claims.

False accusations of everything are sky high. News outlets now live on views and clicks. Many news outlets have evolved into a machinery using anger, outrage, and negativity as its #1 fuel. It will be interesting to see if JWR is manipulating that machinery.

I'm glad to see Patrick Brown won the mayoral election in Brampton. Its proof people are skeptical of accusations that have little to no evidence.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-07 14:40:44
March 07 2019 14:39 GMT
#1102
Elizabeth May impressed the hell out of me. I'll never vote for the Green Party , however, I suspect her performance during this kerfuffle has won her some votes. she is a bad ass.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/video?clipId=1628740
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 03:35:45
March 18 2019 02:42 GMT
#1103
Ontario parents can "opt out" of sex ed. Parents given more control over the health education of their kids.

https://toronto.ctvnews.ca/ford-gov-t-lifting-class-cap-sizes-allowing-parents-to-opt-out-of-new-sex-ed-curriculum-1.4337273


This is a brilliant look at why young people are failing today. Utah passed a "free range" parenting bill. LOL.


Bravo Mr. Paikin... this entire episode is damn brilliant.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Taelshin
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada420 Posts
March 18 2019 05:25 GMT
#1104
That was a really good watch thanks for posting it Jimmy, I always forget to keep up with Paikin.
"We didnt listen"
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 18 2019 09:16 GMT
#1105
Jon and Steve are both great as usual.
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 12:04:57
March 18 2019 12:04 GMT
#1106
i could swear that after 12.40 , they talk about TL's snitches; emotional safety that needs satiated by all means.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 18 2019 12:04 GMT
#1107
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 13:08:57
March 18 2019 12:36 GMT
#1108
I've said some pessimistic things about young people. I'd like to also offer some optimism as well.

Heartwarming speech yesterday by Mississauga's Bianca Andreescu . She started off 0-3. Gutsy performance. She handles herself so well. So composed. What a total bad ass.


There is hope ....we have some great young canadians coming up!
On March 18 2019 21:04 xM(Z wrote:
i could swear that after 12.40 , they talk about TL's snitches; emotional safety that needs satiated by all means.

I remember when i was ~16 there was a guy at my part time job who got picked up and dropped off by his parents every time. Sometimes his parents would talk to the owner of the Gas Station//Garage if they felt they were not "happy" about some issue. It was sad. The rest of us bargained for our hours and scheduling face-to-face with the owner.

Sure enough, when he tried to move away to university he had a "mental breakdown" and ended up going to a university really close to where he lived.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 18 2019 12:45 GMT
#1109
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 13:08:40
March 18 2019 12:56 GMT
#1110
Trudeau's big excuse for the SNC Lavelin shenanigans was that 9000 jobs were on the line. Here is a look at that claim by Trudeau.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snc-lavalin-scandal-economics-jobs-risk-1.5047248
On March 18 2019 21:45 JimmiC wrote:
I'm struggling to see what your above post has to do with Canadian politics please explain?

The Agenda is a great show that often covers Canadian politics and Canada's relationship with the USA. Steve Paikin is a fantastic political commentator. This was such a great episode of The Agenda I thought I'd post it here. It appears several users enjoyed it.

Its important for Canadians to keep tabs on what is going on with our #1 customer. The USA.
On March 18 2019 21:45 JimmiC wrote:
These anecdotal points appear to disagree with each other. Please explain.

You need to watch the episode of The Agenda I posted and the part xM(Z highlights to understand the point.

A few days ago you said you were "ignoring my posts" what happened? LOL. You go back and forth on this "I'm ignoring you" policy so many times i can't keep up. I think i'll avoid you altogether. Its probably for the best. Take care.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 18 2019 13:59 GMT
#1111
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Kevin_Sorbo
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada3217 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 14:13:17
March 18 2019 14:12 GMT
#1112
On March 18 2019 22:59 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 18 2019 21:56 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Trudeau's big excuse for the SNC Lavelin shenanigans was that 9000 jobs were on the line. Here is a look at that claim by Trudeau.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snc-lavalin-scandal-economics-jobs-risk-1.5047248
On March 18 2019 21:45 JimmiC wrote:
I'm struggling to see what your above post has to do with Canadian politics please explain?

The Agenda is a great show that often covers Canadian politics and Canada's relationship with the USA. Steve Paikin is a fantastic political commentator. This was such a great episode of The Agenda I thought I'd post it here. It appears several users enjoyed it.

Its important for Canadians to keep tabs on what is going on with our #1 customer. The USA.
On March 18 2019 21:45 JimmiC wrote:
These anecdotal points appear to disagree with each other. Please explain.

You need to watch the episode of The Agenda I posted and the part xM(Z highlights to understand the point.

A few days ago you said you were "ignoring my posts" what happened? LOL. You go back and forth on this "I'm ignoring you" policy so many times i can't keep up. I think i'll avoid you altogether. Its probably for the best. Take care.

I was speaking about the post right above mine not two above, not sure where the confusion is from.



I don't understand either. Your question was quite clear. Perhaps an attempt at moving the goalposts? I don't think jjr's upbringing/anecdotal evidence is relevent to the discussion. Correct me if I' wrong. Also the amount of useless youtube videos he posts is mildly annoying.
The mind is like a parachute, it doesnt work unless its open. - Zappa
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
March 18 2019 14:34 GMT
#1113
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JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-18 16:40:26
March 18 2019 14:52 GMT
#1114
On March 18 2019 23:12 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Your question was quite clear. Perhaps an attempt at moving the goalposts? I don't think jjr's upbringing/anecdotal evidence is relevent to the discussion. Correct me if I' wrong.

My personal anecdote relates to the comments made by Jonathan Haidt. As Haidt says at 5:00 in the video "very few families have 4 or 5 kids. Often families have only 1 child. When you have 1 kid you are more likely to over protect because you have all your eggs in one basket. "
here is the link to the video. i time stamped it at the 5 minute mark
www.youtube.com

This over protection leads to children who grow into their late teens with less ability to deal with the unfiltered real world. This issue is manifesting itself in both Canadian and American Universities. Premier Doug Ford proposes a "Freedom of Speech Policy" for Universities in order to put the brakes on the "word policing" that hinders open, active debate in Universities.
From the article: "and decline to stop shielding students from opinions some might find offensive."

I think this move by the Conservative government in Ontario might be a positive step forward.



On March 18 2019 23:12 Kevin_Sorbo wrote: Also the amount of useless youtube videos he posts is mildly annoying.

Several users enjoyed the Agenda video, however, i'll stop posting youtube vids. I'll just quote them directly and you can go to them if you wish.
On March 18 2019 23:12 Kevin_Sorbo wrote:
I don't understand either. Your question was quite clear. Perhaps an attempt at moving the goalposts?

the claim that "this ruined him for life" because he switched universities is a clear indicator the other poster is not arguing in good faith. Clearly, an 18 year old who changes schools is not "ruined for life." So its better not too engage this silliness.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17791 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 18:34:48
March 19 2019 18:27 GMT
#1115
Canada's Oldest Rape Crisis Centre ... stripped of City Funding. The province of BC provides most of its funding. The Centre will no longer be able to apply for city grants.

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/canadas-oldest-rape-crisis-centre-stripped-of-city-funding-for-refusing-to-accept-trans-women

The defunding is the latest flashpoint in an ongoing struggle between transgender activists and feminist organizations who maintain that female-born and male-born women should remain distinct groups.

We do not have the experience to offer services to people without the same life experience … this is not our work,” Vancouver Rape Relief representative Hilla Kerner told a City a Vancouver committee last week.


It looks like this has been a decades long battle and it is not going to end any time soon.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 19 2019 19:46 GMT
#1116
Like 0.03% of the population is Trans. How many trans people did that particular crisis center deny in total?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 19 2019 19:58 GMT
#1117
It doesn’t really matter, since the city sets the rules of who gets funding for what. And being seen as supporting anti-transgender policies or organizations has done real economic damage to states and cities in the US because companies do not want to be associated with overt discrimination.

It’s a really dumb fight to limit services to a small number of people for no good reason.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11604 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-03-19 20:16:47
March 19 2019 20:11 GMT
#1118
There's a conflict within the ranks of feminism. A significant number of second wave feminists see this as males invading female spaces (again). This is the latest manifestation of that internal argument. Whether it's a good reason or not, I don't know, but the reason that I've heard is that women have already been traumatized by men, this is supposed to be a safe space for female born and yet "do not feel comfortable while in the presence of someone who used to live as a man." Other spaces could be provided for trans, but this is not the place. It's not arbitrary though as it is relevant to the recovery of their current set of patients.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
March 19 2019 20:26 GMT
#1119
They are commonly called TERF (trans-exclusionary radical feminist) have a pretty contentious relationship with other feminists and trans gender rights advocates. Most of their advocacy is about denying transgender folks services or excluding them from feminist organizations, which is a pretty rancid form of advocacy IMO.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
SK.Testie
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada11084 Posts
March 19 2019 21:43 GMT
#1120
Really? Because I don't think this individual belongs in a women's shelter. A mental ward perhaps, but a women's shelter?


So my question is, are they really that radical?
Social Justice is a fools errand. May all the adherents at its church be thwarted. Of all the religions I have come across, it is by far the most detestable.
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