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Ben...
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ZeromuS
Canada13427 Posts
On May 06 2015 11:43 Falling wrote: wow. It's early, but I never imagined to see so much orange in Alberta of all places. Its extremely surprising. Never did I expect this. I thought it would take another 10-20 years for my generation to get older before anyone non PC had a chance in Alberta. I would be really interested to see the demographics of the voters later. Because I am pretty sure that the Student polls showed NDP winning. CBC just officially projected an NDP win this early. Damn. | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Leading in almost all of the rest and 5 riding are already decided. All 5 are NDP. ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/MNILVFi.png) Not even 10 seconds after post CBC confirms that the NDP now have 11 guaranteed wins. No one else has 1 | ||
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kingjames01
Canada1603 Posts
On May 06 2015 06:08 JimmyJRaynor wrote: well if u dig a little... Liberals lost 10% of the popular vote. and the NDP won 0 seats. it was a bad night for "left wingers". The points that I see are that the Liberals won a Majority Government and the Conservative Leader did not win in his riding. Overall a good result. | ||
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kingjames01
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Ben...
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CBC now is projecting 50+ seat majority for the NDP. | ||
Falling
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On May 06 2015 12:13 Falling wrote: Well, there was some reason to be suspicious when they were so wrong in the BC provincial election. But I guess we were just an outlier. The polls were absurdly wrong in the last federal election too. Many polls showed a NDP win and yet the PC still won a majority | ||
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Wolfstan
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
On May 06 2015 12:23 Wolfstan wrote: I for one welcome our new orange overlords. Stephen Harper's riding of Calgary South west is NDP right now but its close. Its worth noting that the riding in the provincial and federal election are draw differently. But the majority of that regions population is in the NDP area. NDP is 100% of Edmonton. Every single riding is confirmed as NDP. | ||
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Ben...
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PhoenixVoid
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Kau
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
Great way to represent your constituents Jim lol. Way to waste their time. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
Canada is doomed  (If conservatives can't win in Alberta, they can't win in Canada). | ||
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lethal111
Canada460 Posts
On May 06 2015 13:19 FiWiFaKi wrote: So sad to see NDP win. Canada is doomed (If conservatives can't win in Alberta, they can't win in Canada).I mean, considering how poorly the PC ran Alberta these recent years. It was time for change.I supported the PC, but I was mostly neutral for this provincial election. I am excited for what the NDP may bring. As for the federal conservative party, I am not happy with harper's leadership | ||
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Wolfstan
Canada605 Posts
On May 06 2015 13:15 Orcasgt24 wrote: PC leader Jim Prentice has won his riding and for a victory speech he steps down as the PC leader of Alberta and vacates the seat. Great way to represent your constituents Jim lol. Way to waste their time. Exactly why Albertans didn't vote for him. We take economic downturns stoically and don't blame our politicians for market forces. Jim had a thing for easy backroom deals and entitlement than hard work and character. | ||
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FiWiFaKi
Canada9859 Posts
On May 06 2015 13:41 lethal111 wrote: I mean, considering how poorly the PC ran Alberta these recent years. It was time for change.I supported the PC, but I was mostly neutral for this provincial election. I am excited for what the NDP may bring. As for the federal conservative party, I am not happy with harper's leadership Yeah, I dunno. I'll try and be more positive. I'm just finishing university... So it might be beneficial for me, while I'm relatively quite poor and whatnot. Make it easier to find a job. Hopefully in 4 years, the conservatives will come back stronger and with a slightly different focus, more transparency, and more accountability. | ||
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EarthwormJim
Canada94 Posts
Immediate thoughts : 1. How strong their position will stand on corporate taxes in the energy sector (the largest and most influential sector in Alberta). 2. What will they do about the large health care budget cuts that just happened. 3. What the backlash will be from American corporations upon royalties going up. 4. How high the provincial sales tax will go up. 5. What they plan on doing when the massive housing bubble in Fort McMurray pops, consequently because of their politics (previously PC's as well due to unregulated business growth; oil prices of course being a factor). 6. How beneficial the small business credits will actually be. 7. How much job loss will be accredited due to the higher corporate taxes (will small business pick up the slack?) It's going to be interesting. Socialism on paper is "the dream" as well all know... But in reality, it's just plain scary. We will see. Edit: I've always wondered if this party could be capable of introducing a corporate gas tax, where all business owners that use petrol regularly pay a tax. The idea behind this is to balance the supply and demand better; gas is too expensive in Alberta considering we pull it out of the ground "down the street". Of course we don't refine it, but that isn't the reason why it's expensive. Gas is in huge demand in Alberta, and diesel even more so; this is mainly because of the demand from corporate businesses, ie, fleet, heavy machinery, operations, and the general type of business Alberta does (17% construction 30% Energy). | ||
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Orcasgt24
Canada3238 Posts
2.The PC budget that was proposed is garbage. Literally. It actually is residing in the trash. Pretend it never existed. They will make a new one. 3. Noise. They will make noise and nobody will care and then they will stay put. Maybe some leave, some jobs may be cut but for the most part they will whine and that's it. The smart ones will take advantage of the new job tax credit to offset the raising royalties. 4.It won't. A PST is a great way to never get another vote ever again. I think the fact a PST was even mentioned as possible is why the PC's lost so mightily 5. The housing bubble in Ft. Mac is actually just a supply vs demand thing. Their is a huge demand for houses and low supply. Any time Supple < Demand the supply is super expensive. Everyone working in Ft. Mac has alot of money because that's where all the high paying jobs are so people selling houses ask for a shit tonne of money. The "bubble" won't be bursting as long as the oil is there. And it will be there for a LONG time. Even if they wanted to I don't think the government could put some kind of limit on prices or something for houses. 6. The new job tax credit will do alot for small businesses. Might make some viable that previously weren't. In the big picture though, not much. Small business is a nice thing to promote but its effect on the economy is minimal. Good way to get votes though as the NDP just showed. 7. Knee jerk reactions are a government thing. Corporations are alot more stubborn (Target being example A). It's entirely possible that thousands of jobs are cut but I think more jobs will be made. That new job tax credit is pretty juicy and we all know how much Corporations love their tax breaks. I'm interested in this interaction between the big businesses of AB and the NDP the most. Now this is interesting haha! A tie! ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/qC946Fx.png) | ||
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