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DickMcFanny
Profile Blog Joined September 2015
Ireland1076 Posts
February 11 2016 09:45 GMT
#8361
Maybe now a couple of women and children come as well.
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odeSSa
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden198 Posts
February 12 2016 08:11 GMT
#8362
So, Erdogan threatens to flood Europe with a new wave of immigrants. Who could have foreseen this?

https://www.rt.com/news/332179-erdogan-refugees-syria-eu/
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6305 Posts
February 12 2016 11:32 GMT
#8363
The euro zone economy grew at the same pace in the last quarter of 2015 as in the third because industrial output fell in December, data showed, marking a slowdown from the first half of the year and adding to arguments for further monetary easing.

The European Union's statistics office Eurostat said gross domestic product in the 19 countries sharing the euro rose 0.3 percent quarter-on-quarter in the last three months of last year, the same as in the July-September period and as expected by economists polled by Reuters.

Year-on-year, the euro zone economy expanded 1.5 percent, also as forecast by economists.

No detailed breakdown was available with Eurostat's first estimate, but separate data showed euro zone industrial output fell 1 percent month-on-month in December for a 1.3 percent year-on-year fall.

Economists polled by Reuters had expected a 0.3 percent monthly rise and a 0.8 percent annual increase in production.

Economists said such GDP growth rates would not be enough to generate enough inflationary pressure to take price growth up to the European Central Bank's target of below, but close to 2 percent annually from 0.4 percent in January.

"We continue to think that further monetary easing is required, with further policy rate cuts on the cards from March onwards," said Nick Kounis, economist at ABN Amro in a note published before the data release.

"However, more fiscal stimulus – in the form of public investment – in countries that have room for maneuver, and structural reform more widely – is also needed to support monetary policy," he said.

www.reuters.com

On February 12 2016 17:11 odeSSa wrote:
So, Erdogan threatens to flood Europe with a new wave of immigrants. Who could have foreseen this?

https://www.rt.com/news/332179-erdogan-refugees-syria-eu/

We never really cared when the refugees were stuck in Turkey so why would he care if they walk to Europe now.
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 00:13:35
February 13 2016 00:11 GMT
#8364
Europe is fucked. Zero cooperation under almost no pressure.

Even if the politicians wanted to be more constructive, they have no room to maneuver.

Once there is real crisis, it will be every country on it's own.

And I can't even blame the common people. They gave no reason why to like European cooperation.

The absolute low point was the crisis with Greece, but in different subject and with different players, it isn't much better. I remember the headline "Not since the war have Europeans hated each other this much."

It is all a fucking disaster.


Europe needs Putin, badly. We need a true enemy to unite is again.
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 08:54:19
February 13 2016 08:53 GMT
#8365
there is no way the whole EU would unite under a capitalism + free market banner with or without a Putin to hate.
hell, half the EU would unite under a fuck capitalism + free market banner easy.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9330 Posts
February 13 2016 09:56 GMT
#8366
You have to mean the half no else wants to unite with
You're now breathing manually
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 13 2016 11:32 GMT
#8367
it's as if you never heard the saying: "the glass is half empty" ... but i guess there has to be a fairyland somewhere, else where would your half live?.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
trulojucreathrma.com
Profile Blog Joined December 2015
United States327 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 12:22:15
February 13 2016 12:21 GMT
#8368
On February 13 2016 17:53 xM(Z wrote:
there is no way the whole EU would unite under a capitalism + free market banner with or without a Putin to hate.
hell, half the EU would unite under a fuck capitalism + free market banner easy.


Of course, European leaders pushing through capitalism, unequal globalization, national governments blaming EU bureaucracy, always, for their own mistakes and failures, multinationals being asked to write up all the laws the EU passes, that's why the EU is falling apart.

Once it is gone and people are dejected, we are fucked. Will there really be a second change?

We had this tiny pocket of a society the world has never seen. If nothing changes, in a few decades in Europe again a child that is born will have 99% odds of being fucked, like every child has always been throughout history and still is today almost across the globe.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6305 Posts
February 13 2016 15:30 GMT
#8369
Eurogroup chairman Jeroen Dijsselbloem rejected calls for banking union regulations to be loosened after weeks of falling bank shares, saying new European bail-in rules had caused investors to look "more critically" at risks born by banks.

Speaking on Dutch radio on Saturday, Dijsselbloem, who is also the Dutch finance minister, said stricter rules imposed in the wake of the 2007 financial crisis that would restore confidence in banks.

"We now have much stricter rules for who pays the bill if banks go wrong, and it's not the taxpayer," he said. "For that reason, investors are looking much more critically at banks, and that is leading to a correction on equity markets."

The Stoxx Eurozone Banks Index .SX7E has fallen more than 25 percent since the beginning of the year, prompting policymakers including Bank of Italy governor Ignazio Visco to call for a more gradual introduction of rules that place the burden of propping up failing banks on investors.

But Dijsselbloem, who chairs meetings of euro zone finance ministers, said this would be "the worst possible thing to do."

"We must first make the banking union stronger in my view," he added. "Capital requirements should go up further in coming years. That would strengthen confidence in banks."

Dijsselbloem also said Europe's economic outlook remained cautiously positive despite a recent slew of indicators pointing to an economic slowdown, and bad economic news from China and the United States. He warned that talk of crisis risked becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.

"Since 2008 we have been sitting continually in crisis mode in our heads even when you can see from the real economy that we are emerging from it," he said. "Banks are much stronger, balances are much stronger and they have been cleaned of bad portfolios."

Low profitability and close to 1 trillion euros worth of non-performing loans, a legacy of Europe's crisis, are also weighing on the sector but banks are now well capitalized after years of regulatory pressure to build up their buffers.

"[Eurozone banks] are in a much better position today than they were at the height of the debt crisis in 2011 and 2012," European Central Bank board member Bernard Coeure told the Rheinische Post newspaper on Saturday.

"Thanks to the banking union they are now much more resilient."

www.reuters.com
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22494 Posts
February 13 2016 15:35 GMT
#8370
Do these banks even listen to what their saying themselves?

"If we do a shit job, someone else should pay". How is that a positive statement you want to come out with!
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 13 2016 18:24 GMT
#8371
French Prime Minister Manuel Valls rejected on Saturday the idea of a permanent quota system for distributing refugees across Europe, putting Paris at odds with Germany ahead of a summit to discuss the EU crisis over migration.

Speaking to reporters at a security conference in Munich, Valls said France would stick to its pledge to take on 30,000 of the 160,000 refugees European countries have agreed to divide among themselves, but would not accept additional numbers.

"We won't take any more," Valls said. He expressed admiration for Germany's readiness to take on more refugees, but added: "France never said 'come to France.'"

Merkel is expected to push European partners to accept so-called "contingents" of refugees at a meeting on Thursday in Brussels, shortly before European Union leaders come together for their summit.

Cobbling together a coalition of countries that is ready to accept more asylum seekers over time is crucial to Merkel's efforts to convince Turkey to stem the tide of refugees fleeing countries in the Middle East, notably Syria. Turkish Prime Minister Ahmet Davutoglu will attend the pre-summit meeting.

"France rejects this," Valls said of the permanent quota mechanism. He said France had already received 80,000 asylum applications last year and was struggling with youth radicalization and high unemployment.

In another sign of Europe's deep divisions over the influx of migrants and refugees, Slovakia's Prime Minister Robert Fico said Germany had protested against plans by eastern European leaders to help Macedonia and Bulgaria seal their border with Greece, the entry point into the EU for many migrants.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 18:58:30
February 13 2016 18:58 GMT
#8372
Why does Merkel still think she can force a quota?
Nyxisto
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany6287 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-14 17:03:30
February 13 2016 21:17 GMT
#8373
Because she's stubborn as a mule and actually had a surprising amount of success with that strategy in the past
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
February 15 2016 09:10 GMT
#8374
https://euobserver.com/tickers/132262
Bosnia and Herzegovina submitted its membership application to the EU on Monday, a European Commission spokesperson announced. Kosovo is now the only part of the Balkans that hasn't done so. For his part, Jean-Claude Juncker has said that no enlargement of the bloc would occur during his term.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
RvB
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Netherlands6305 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 13:54:20
February 15 2016 12:45 GMT
#8375
European Council leader Donald Tusk said on Monday he hoped the UK and other EU nations would agree on a deal to keep Britain in the European Union at a meeting in Brussels at the end of the week.

Asked after a meeting with French President Francois Hollande in Paris whether he thought a deal was possible at the Brussels summit, Tusk said: "I hope so."

British Prime Minister David Cameron is hoping to return from a summit of European leaders on Thursday and Friday in Brussels with a package of reforms that he can take to the British people in a referendum on whether to remain in the EU.

British and EU negotiators have already broadly agreed much of a reform package, but tricky political issues, notably on migration, are still outstanding.

uk.reuters.com
The European Union's trade surplus with the rest of the world surged almost five-fold last year against 2014 because of a sharp drop in imported energy prices, data showed on Monday.

The European Union's statistics office Eurostat said the trade surplus of the 28-nation bloc in 2015 was 64.2 billion euros against 13.3 billion the year before, with imports rising only 2 percent and exports jumping 5 percent.

While in 2014 the EU's trade deficit in energy was 334.8 billion euros, in 2015 it shrank to only 243.5 billion because of tumbling prices of crude oil and gas.

Imports from Russia, Europe's main supplier of energy, fell 25 percent in 2015 against 2014, but exports to Russia fell even more -- 28 percent -- partly because of sanctions imposed on trade with Moscow after its annexation of Crimea.

The trade deficit with another EU energy supplier Norway fell to 25.4 billion euros from 34.9 billion in 2014.

The EU increased its trade surplus with its biggest trading partner, the United States, to 123.3 billion euros last year form 104.5 billion the year before but its trade deficit with China jumped to almost 180 billion from 137.5 billion.

Germany remained Europe's biggest exporter with a trade surplus of 251.9 billion euros, up from 216.5 billion in 2014. Of that total 179.5 billion came from outside the EU.

Britain had the biggest trade deficit in the 28-nation bloc last year, rising to 149 billion euros from 139.5 billion the year before.

www.reuters.com
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2847 Posts
February 15 2016 19:58 GMT
#8376
Europe needs to realize that for federations to work the highest level needs to do the shit that the individual nation states don't like to do but realize it needs to be done.

Take the immigration crisis. If EU had its own border police (of course with officers from the country its in and probably with a lot of local police officers on mid level positions) then the border countries wouldn't have to pay for border control, in fact they would get hundreds of thousands of new well paid jobs and they could effectively seal their borders. And they could bitch about every single problem with this and blame it on the EU.
And the inner countries could blame the EU for their "inhuman" policies and bitch a lot in national media instead of having to enact the rules themselves.

Win-win, everyone hates the EU and actual problems get solved.

Other hated activities like counter tax-evasion and statistics are also perfect things to offload to Brussels. Take away the grey administrative drudge that the common people (or super rich for tax-evasion) dislike (or at least doesn't care about) and keep things that politicians and the people like.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 15 2016 20:32 GMT
#8377
On February 16 2016 04:58 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Europe needs to realize that for federations to work the highest level needs to do the shit that the individual nation states don't like to do but realize it needs to be done.

Take the immigration crisis. If EU had its own border police (of course with officers from the country its in and probably with a lot of local police officers on mid level positions) then the border countries wouldn't have to pay for border control, in fact they would get hundreds of thousands of new well paid jobs and they could effectively seal their borders. And they could bitch about every single problem with this and blame it on the EU.
And the inner countries could blame the EU for their "inhuman" policies and bitch a lot in national media instead of having to enact the rules themselves.
You say hundred of thousands of new jobs would be created, but they will have to be funded by the public sector. Nice story but who pays for the border controls?

Things like statistic and counter-evasion is fine though.
CuddlyCuteKitten
Profile Joined January 2004
Sweden2847 Posts
February 15 2016 21:21 GMT
#8378
On February 16 2016 05:32 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2016 04:58 CuddlyCuteKitten wrote:
Europe needs to realize that for federations to work the highest level needs to do the shit that the individual nation states don't like to do but realize it needs to be done.

Take the immigration crisis. If EU had its own border police (of course with officers from the country its in and probably with a lot of local police officers on mid level positions) then the border countries wouldn't have to pay for border control, in fact they would get hundreds of thousands of new well paid jobs and they could effectively seal their borders. And they could bitch about every single problem with this and blame it on the EU.
And the inner countries could blame the EU for their "inhuman" policies and bitch a lot in national media instead of having to enact the rules themselves.
You say hundred of thousands of new jobs would be created, but they will have to be funded by the public sector. Nice story but who pays for the border controls?

Things like statistic and counter-evasion is fine though.


Dude were paying at least 70 billion SEK a year for refuges and Germany has to be paying a hell of a lot more. If EU could fix that it would be cheap in comparison. Plus we can go back to feeling nice about ourself while not really helping out.

Fairly low wage countries in many places, a hundred thousand employes say 3k Euro a head take that times 2 for a budget and thats about 6 billion Euros. I dunno if 100000 border guards are actually enough better make it 300000 thats about 18 bn make that 20 as a nice even number. Current EU budget is about 143 billion. Every country in the Eu can basically remove their border patrols and coast guard. I think its affordable.
Unity, support, family, and kneecapping bitches.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
February 15 2016 21:44 GMT
#8379
Donald Tusk, the president of the European council, warned on Monday that positions were hardening on Britain’s future in Europe ahead of the crucial summit he will chair on Thursday and the risk of break-up was real.

David Cameron scrapped a debate at the European parliament on Tuesday and scheduled a meeting with Jean-Claude Juncker, president of the European commission, amid fears that a proposed settlement geared to keeping the UK in the EU could unravel because of growing European objections to the concessions promised to Britain.

“This is a critical moment,” Tusk warned. “It is high time we started listening to each other’s arguments more than to our own. It is natural in negotiations that positions harden, as we get closer to crunch time. But the risk of break-up is real because this process is indeed very fragile. Handle with care. What is broken cannot be mended.”

The stark warning from the former Polish prime minister, who presides over the EU summit on Thursday and who has been charged with drafting the settlement rewriting the terms of Britain’s EU membership, came as east European leaders staged a mini-summit in Prague to hammer out a common position on the proposed British deal.

Bohuslav Sobotka, the Czech prime minister, who chaired the meeting of four central European countries – Poland, Slovakia, Hungary, and the Czech Republic – said they had agreed a position but that he would not divulge it before informing Tusk.


Source
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 00:52:38
February 16 2016 00:49 GMT
#8380
Any news on Cologne ? Most newspapers in France are arguing that it is now accepted that the event that occured during the night had nothing to do with refugees and that, all in all, the night was not all that exceptionnal considering most feast usually end up with a huge amount of complaints. Can someone share us some of his knowledge on that ?
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
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