EPTOn January 10 2016 01:36 kwizach wrote:
You're the embodiment of xenophobia in this thread.
You're the embodiment of xenophobia in this thread.
Thanks. I take no shame in criticizing criminals.
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SoSexy
Italy3725 Posts
Thanks. I take no shame in criticizing criminals. | ||
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Elizar
Germany431 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:34 SoSexy wrote: Yes, maybe it is unclear and you should take a read. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophobia Did you know that it does not work only one way? I don´t need to look it up. If I´m (also) "scared" of stupid Germans doing bad stuff like that woman did while being a German myself, that´s NOT xenophobia. | ||
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
Especially when it was done en masse... euh. disgusting. I'd be infuriated were I German right now, with a sister. Funnily enough, I only heard of this today when browsing TL.net randomly. The French media has not even MENTIONED this tragedy at all (I listen to the radio daily). I didn't know we lived in a fascist country where the media was controlled. To have a mass rape completely ignored in such a manner is absolutely astonishing edit: reread the thread a bit and this one post is a diamond You're too overly dramatic. It's a small group of black and brown people who did the attacks. These people (many young and still mentally undeveloped) are in a new area and culture and are adjusting. Overall, they are peaceful (I don't know why I need to keep stating the obvious). In due time, these Arabs will be tax payers and contribute to the overall welfare of Germany and native Germans. you think that rape is excusable because they are "young" and their mentality is "underdeveloped"? are you for fucking real? I DARE you to go to one of the victims of that night and say that to them with a straight face. I DARE you. I'm not anti-refugee or anything like that, nor do I think that this event (or the terror attacks in France) should ignore the war effort going into the accommodation of refugees. however i cannot either say with a straight face that mass molestation and harassment is something where an excuse can be found. if you think there is, you need a reality check there are lots of legitimate refugees coming into europe, but there are also a fuck load of assholes, delinquents and criminals coming with them. that is the simple reality, get over it. | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:48 Elizar wrote: I don´t need to look it up. If I´m (also) "scared" of stupid Germans doing bad stuff like that woman did while being a German myself, that´s NOT xenophobia. are you trying to compare the mass sexual assaults on women all over germany by probably thousands of arabs where the majority of them were refugees with a single instance of a lunatic woman? this is the worst thing happend to germanys public security since 1945 and the reason is because we brought hundreds of thousands of men into our country for whom sexual assault is not a crime. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:56 hfglgg wrote: this is the worst thing happend to germanys public security since 1945 lol. Forget the RAF terror or hostage crisis during the Munich Olympic games, you people have a fucking axe to grind haven't you | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:04 Nyxisto wrote: lol. Forget the RAF terror or hostage crisis during the Munich Olympic games, you people have a fucking axe to grind haven't you the raf terror or hostage crisis were singular instances or had a singular enemy. this time it is different. not only in cologne women were attacked by refugees, but everywhere in germany and not from a few lunatics but by huge groups. in places with a lot of refugees, women cant feel safe anymore and since refugees are in public places those are no safe places anylonger. sylvester were more sexual attackers on the german streets who assaulted women than all terrorists ever set foot in germany combined. thats the truth. there are also more victims to that than to terrorists even if you combine all of europe together. its a serious issue and it is deeply rooted in the rotten culture of those countries. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
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Incognoto
France10239 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:04 Nyxisto wrote: lol. Forget the RAF terror or hostage crisis during the Munich Olympic games, you people have a fucking axe to grind haven't you it's fine to not be against refugees being taken in, but being so adamant that this is not such a big deal, when it's such a disgusting turn of events is not. you need to admit that this is pretty fucking bad | ||
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Zurich15365 Posts
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:37 SoSexy wrote: Thanks. I take no shame in criticizing criminals. Criticizing criminals is not the issue. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8750 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:04 Nyxisto wrote: lol. Forget the RAF terror or hostage crisis during the Munich Olympic games, you people have a fucking axe to grind haven't you or you know. living in the east of germany. I heard "realsozialismus" was not so hot either. I would not only look at the fucking pigs that did that, where's the outrage at the police? and the insanely inadequate resources/planing/lack of intelligence they showed in keeping people safe in fucking COLOGNE on NEW YEAR'S EVE. in the year where charlie hebdo and paris and other smaller scale TERRORIST ATTACKS happened. and there was supposed to be higher presence of police forces, because supposedly ATTACKS WERE PLANNED on NEW YEAR'S EVE. for christ's sake people... yes be angry, but don't lose perspective... | ||
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hfglgg
Germany5372 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:19 Nyxisto wrote: Rape and sexual assault are deeply rooted in German culture as well. Instead of swinging into the discussion like Tarzan trying to save all the white girls we should have started a few decades ago. This is purely a primitive male reflex of "they are taking our women!!" and nothing else. sorry but that is retarded as fuck. germans condemn rape and sexual assault and in prison rapists are the lowest of the low in pretty much all of western countries. in arab countries you have these mobs (20+) singleing out one or two women and molest them in public places. that behaviour is not the exception its the rule and well documented. there is a reason why 99.3% of egyptian women claim to be sexually molested compared to "only" 1/3 in germany. dont let your ideology blind you and start seeing things how they are. maybe try to judge people by their beliefs instead of their heritage for once, even if left-wing guys have big troubles doing this. edit: the reason why cologne is in the media is because the head of police there was incompetent as fuck. in hamburg or bielefeld similar things happend (500 refugees attacked a club, but got repelled by the police) but the police was way better prepared there. there are reports from at least 6 cities of arabs attacking women on the streets, always in mobs. yes it is a real concern. | ||
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dismiss
United Kingdom3341 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:19 Nyxisto wrote: Rape and sexual assault are deeply rooted in German culture as well. Instead of swinging into the discussion like Tarzan trying to save all the white girls we should have started a few decades ago. This is purely a primitive male reflex of "they are taking our women!!" and nothing else. Oh my, next you'll label the entirety of Germany as evil because out football team beat Brazil 7:1 or w/e it was. But I suppose in addition to being Nazis we're all also rapists.  | ||
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kwizach
3658 Posts
On January 10 2016 01:49 Incognoto wrote: Funnily enough, I only heard of this today when browsing TL.net randomly. The French media has not even MENTIONED this tragedy at all (I listen to the radio daily). I didn't know we lived in a fascist country where the media was controlled. To have a mass rape completely ignored in such a manner is absolutely astonishing Yes, there has been no mention of this in the French media at all. It's totally not you who's been living under a rock. Le Monde: http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2016/01/08/violences-a-cologne-berlin-annonce-que-sur-31-suspects-18-sont-demandeurs-d-asile_4844017_3214.html http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2016/01/08/cinq-questions-sur-la-serie-d-agressions-de-femmes-a-cologne_4844209_3214.html http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2016/01/05/forte-emotion-en-allemagne-apres-l-agression-d-au-moins-90-femmes-dans-la-nuit-du-1er-janvier_4842165_3214.html http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/video/2016/01/06/agressions-sexuelles-a-cologne-la-maire-promet-les-poursuites-les-plus-fermes_4842568_3214.html http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/video/2016/01/08/ils-nous-ont-touchees-partout-une-victime-de-cologne-raconte_4844143_3214.html http://www.lemonde.fr/europe/article/2016/01/07/a-cologne-l-enquete-sur-les-agressions-massives-contre-des-femmes-au-nouvel-an-progresse-lentement_4843475_3214.html etc. Libération: http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/05/allemagne-vague-d-agressions-sexuelles-a-cologne-un-millier-de-personnes-impliquees_1424431 http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/06/harcelement-du-nouvel-an-l-emoi-allemand_1424745 http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/08/harcelements-de-masse-a-cologne-18-des-31-suspects-sont-des-demandeurs-d-asile_1425109 http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/09/allemagne-l-extreme-droite-defile-a-cologne-apres-les-violences_1425289 http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/08/le-chef-de-la-police-de-cologne-ecarte-apres-les-violences-du-nouvel-an_1425136 http://www.liberation.fr/planete/2016/01/08/cologne-des-refugies-parmi-les-suspects-debat-sur-les-expulsions_1425082 etc. Le Figaro: http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/05/97001-20160105FILWWW00147-allemagne-vague-d-agressions-sexuelles-lors-du-nouvel-an.php http://recherche.lefigaro.fr/recherche/access/lefigaro_fr.php?archive=BszTm8dCk78atGCYonbyzriaG7CIVfcnLx4Gq0zFDAVg/PRsP1WsAcwID7t+r7QSu2IGtjAq08M= http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2016/01/08/01003-20160108ARTFIG00343-des-demandeurs-d-asile-parmi-les-suspects-des-agressions-sexuelles-de-cologne.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/08/97001-20160108FILWWW00122-violences-a-cologne-18-demandeurs-d-asile-parmi-les-suspects.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/vox/monde/2016/01/07/31002-20160107ARTFIG00400-agressions-a-cologne-le-deni-et-la-colere.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2016/01/08/01003-20160108ARTFIG00329-migrants-merkel-sous-le-feu-des-critiques.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/08/97001-20160108FILWWW00219-violences-du-nouvel-an-le-chef-de-la-police-de-cologne-suspendu.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2016/01/08/01003-20160108ARTFIG00322--cologne-la-nouvelle-maire-et-les-erreurs-de-la-police.php http://recherche.lefigaro.fr/recherche/access/lefigaro_fr.php?archive=BszTm8dCk78atGCYonbyztWb2gA5yW0wLx4Gq0zFDAVAt8DGYm6k7jMs3Pq7inhJu2IGtjAq08M= http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/07/97001-20160107FILWWW00190-agressions-a-cologne-16-suspects-identifies.php http://recherche.lefigaro.fr/recherche/access/lefigaro_fr.php?archive=BszTm8dCk78atGCYonbyzicPihzdtEKzLx4Gq0zFDAXq8BFvLCHrXCnZqCWZlcb7u2IGtjAq08M= http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/09/97001-20160109FILWWW00083-merkel-pour-l-expulsion-des-refugies-condamnes.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/05/97001-20160105FILWWW00379-agressions-de-cologne-la-police-critiquee.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/international/2016/01/06/01003-20160106ARTFIG00333-merkel-sous-pression-apres-les-viols-a-cologne.php http://www.lefigaro.fr/flash-actu/2016/01/09/97001-20160109FILWWW00121-agressions-trois-manifestations-a-cologne.php etc. Clearly nobody has been talking about it in the media. What a joke. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:28 dismiss wrote: Oh my, next you'll label the entirety of Germany as evil because out football team beat Brazil 7:1 or w/e it was. But I suppose in addition to being Nazis we're all also rapists. I do not understand what you're trying to tell me, and that clown smiley is freaking me out | ||
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Sent.
Poland9299 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:19 Nyxisto wrote: Rape and sexual assault are deeply rooted in German culture as well. Instead of swinging into the discussion like Tarzan trying to save all the white girls we should have started a few decades ago. This is purely a primitive male reflex of "they are taking our women!!" and nothing else. I'm not sure if it's on purpose but your posts make it look like whenever someone says "our women" he can only mean that those women are someone's property. It can mean "one of us" too. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
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United Kingdom3341 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:42 Nyxisto wrote: I do not understand what you're trying to tell me, and that clown smiley is freaking me out I'm trying to show you how ridiculous your statement regarding Germany having a well established "rape-culture" is. It's universally frowned upon and I've never met someone who thought raping people was acceptable, if anything Germans are far less sexually outwards when compared to i.e. Southern Europeans. | ||
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Nyxisto
Germany6287 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:46 Sent. wrote: I'm not sure if it's on purpose but your posts make it look like whenever someone says "our women" he can only mean that those women are someone's property. It can mean "one of us" too. If that would genuinely mean that you would have been foaming from your mouth for the last twenty years like you know, actual feminists, instead of ridiculing them at every possible occasion. Which was the favorite hobby of the exact same people who are now very upset. | ||
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trulojucreathrma.com
United States327 Posts
On January 10 2016 02:46 Sent. wrote: I'm not sure if it's on purpose but your posts make it look like whenever someone says "our women" he can only mean that those women are someone's property. It can mean "one of us" too. That's how humans think. Tribalism is in our genes. That's the social setting in which we evolved as a species. If you can't accept we have bad habits in our genes, you can't get rid of them through superior culture. The only real danger of immigrants to society as a whole if the right wing extremism that it fuels. When anti-muslim parties get into power, they won't just try to ban muslims (won't work, beyond the power of a government, even if the civil servants cooperate(which they won't)), they also have all kinds of other extremist policies that damage every other aspect of our societies. It will wreck our economies and our social fabric. Income equality will be wrecked while our economies also get less competitive. Other minorities will also be in danger. Crime will rise because current crime fighting policies will be reverted to what we had 40 years ago. Not to mention other reformist agenda's like biobased economy/energy crisis/global warming, etc etc. | ||
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