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unkkz
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Norway2196 Posts
May 01 2012 22:03 GMT
#981
OT: about the witcher, there is actually someone currently translating the books but she is so slow its hilarious. Five years in the making now or something, i dont see the big deal. I could translate a book from Eng > Swe in a few weeks if i worked full time on it.
Mythra
Profile Joined July 2011
New Zealand274 Posts
May 01 2012 22:12 GMT
#982
I am on the 4th book atm and seems pretty boring so far. Does it get better throughout the book or maybe the next book. i.e continue the main story and characters?
"Back then teams that won were credited, now it's called throw. I think it's sad." - KuroKy
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
May 01 2012 22:16 GMT
#983
On May 02 2012 07:12 Mythra wrote:
I am on the 4th book atm and seems pretty boring so far. Does it get better throughout the book or maybe the next book. i.e continue the main story and characters?


Fourth book is pretty boring yea. The main characters come back in the 5th.
Smat
Profile Joined January 2011
United States301 Posts
May 01 2012 22:19 GMT
#984
Ya the fourth book you just have to enjoy the Kingslanding stuff and the Sansa stuff. Daenerys story line really starts sucking in this book though, but I neverliked her character that much anyway. Brienne's chapters sucked on the first read through but I really enjoyed her parts the second time I read the book.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
May 02 2012 00:08 GMT
#985
On May 02 2012 07:03 unkkz wrote:
OT: about the witcher, there is actually someone currently translating the books but she is so slow its hilarious. Five years in the making now or something, i dont see the big deal. I could translate a book from Eng > Swe in a few weeks if i worked full time on it.


It's not just about direct translation, though. They want the words and sentences that are formed to mimic the original style of the author. That's why professional translations are usually done by career writers.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
TheGeneralTheoryOf
Profile Joined February 2012
235 Posts
May 02 2012 00:32 GMT
#986
wtf am i the only person who thought this was going to be about the poem by robert frost?
SilentCrono
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States1420 Posts
May 02 2012 00:33 GMT
#987
just started the first book. its pretty excellent so far.
♞ Your soul will forever be lost in the void of a horse. ♞
Albrithe
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
May 02 2012 00:34 GMT
#988
On May 02 2012 09:32 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
wtf am i the only person who thought this was going to be about the poem by robert frost?

Which poem by Robert Frost?
"You don't need a condom... to get up on 'dem..." -Zach Weiner
GARO
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States2255 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 00:38:47
May 02 2012 00:35 GMT
#989
On May 02 2012 04:53 Smat wrote:
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On May 02 2012 04:25 Baptista wrote:
when I hear people talking about those fantasy books (games of thrones/ eragon etc) i smile and think to my self that in hell billion of people will die not having read the best fantasy ever written: The Witcher series...


Comparing ASOIaF with Eragon? Give me a break. If the witcher series is so good why is it completely ignored on all of the top fantasy reading lists?

With your logic, Twilight must be an exceptional series.
Crazyeyes
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1342 Posts
May 02 2012 01:00 GMT
#990
On May 02 2012 05:04 Overpowered wrote:
Book 4 and 5 are not that bad, people are just disappointed in three things about them:
1) they had to wait for like 5 years
2) they are much more slower and dragged than book 3, which is like a completely awesomely crazy rollercoaster where amazing events and cliffhangers happen in every single chapter in second half
3) lots of new unfamiliar political powers and characters and people are not emotionally connected to them

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On May 02 2012 04:53 Smat wrote:
If the witcher series is so good why is it completely ignored on all of the top fantasy reading lists?

Easy - only few books are translated to English. Its Polish and for some reason nobody wants to translate them to English. There is Czech translation though so I have indeed read it and I can confirm that The Witcher series is one of the best fantasy creations of all time.
It has very cool characters (Geralt just has to be the best character of all time) and has its own style - high fantasy (elves, dwarves, magic) combined with dark and gritty world (drugs, poverty, racism, mutants), dirty politics and lots of sex and violence, plus influence of Slavic stories and fairy tales. Its very unique.
Not the best fantasy IMO - I still like ASoIaF more, but second place is still awesome



It's what this guy said. The fourth and fifth books took so long, and after how great the first three, especially the third were... they were a letdown.

They had their moments that dragged, especially Brienne in book 4. Book 5 managed to make Tyrion boring after a certain point, which is quite a feat. However, 5 had a lot of good things happen in it and I wouldnt say it's nearly as bad as 4.

Really, though... once you step back and really take a look at them they're great. AFFC doesn't have as much action and crazy twists, but its filled with world building and storybuilding. Theres lots of good shit that happens in there that you dont notice on a first read. The Dorne and Oldtown storylines were so good, and so very interesting. You take a bit to analyze them (or, do what I did and just read what others have analyzed) and you'll realize that GRRM is a goddamn mastermind and even his 'bad' books are fantastic.

During, and afterr reading 4 I didn't like it. Now I think it's better than book 1, or at least equal. The fifth one was good, except for like the third quarter of it which got really dry.

The last two will be incredible.





As for The Witcher, this sounds awesome. I really want to read them now. I can read Polish, too... it's just that being born in Canada, my Polish isn't so good. It'll probalby take me a month to get through each one, while having a English - Polish dictionary open the entire time, and I'm sure I'll miss out on like 30% of everything that happens. D:
But it'll be a learning experience.
WeeEEeeEEEeeEEEeeeEEee!!
brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-02 01:09:27
May 02 2012 01:04 GMT
#991
yeah I thought book 4 was incredible. Im having a hard time with book 5, but that's more because I'm not in the mood to sit and read anymore.

actually, i remember getting to the end of book 4, where it says "And back on the wall..." and only just then realizing I was missing so many characters. which is to say i hadn't been missing them at all, i was so into the story.
Leth0
Profile Joined February 2012
856 Posts
May 02 2012 01:08 GMT
#992
Reek is in book 5, how in the actual shit could anyone not enjoy book 5?! I am baffled. Oh well everyone is entitled to their opinions, I'm one of the people who has really enjoyed each of the books so far. I don't think I could number them out of which I enjoyed the least or most, it's all one story for me, there has been slow points and really tense or exciting moments in every one of them.

Cheers.
Voltaire
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1485 Posts
May 02 2012 01:23 GMT
#993
On May 02 2012 09:34 Albrithe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:32 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
wtf am i the only person who thought this was going to be about the poem by robert frost?

Which poem by Robert Frost?


Fire and Ice, most likely.

It begins with "Some say the world will end in fire, others ice" or something like that, I remember studying it in high school.
As long as people believe in absurdities they will continue to commit atrocities.
Albrithe
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada187 Posts
May 02 2012 01:45 GMT
#994
On May 02 2012 10:23 Voltaire wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 09:34 Albrithe wrote:
On May 02 2012 09:32 TheGeneralTheoryOf wrote:
wtf am i the only person who thought this was going to be about the poem by robert frost?

Which poem by Robert Frost?


Fire and Ice, most likely.

It begins with "Some say the world will end in fire, others ice" or something like that, I remember studying it in high school.

thanks
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thalim90
Profile Joined April 2012
United States68 Posts
May 09 2012 01:20 GMT
#995
The brutal depiction of reality at once entices me and pushes me away. Its a strange, unique feeling.
Be the change you wish to see in the world :)
sOda~
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom441 Posts
May 25 2012 20:32 GMT
#996
jon.... ;______;
IM THE SHIT BITCH
Quexana
Profile Joined May 2012
98 Posts
June 12 2012 21:12 GMT
#997
On May 02 2012 10:08 Leth0 wrote:
Reek is in book 5, how in the actual shit could anyone not enjoy book 5?! I am baffled. Oh well everyone is entitled to their opinions, I'm one of the people who has really enjoyed each of the books so far. I don't think I could number them out of which I enjoyed the least or most, it's all one story for me, there has been slow points and really tense or exciting moments in every one of them.

Cheers.


Pretty much this. The Reek storyline is one of the most compelling, emotionally jarring reading experiences I have ever had. I'd get to the end of each Reek chapter and turn in the book to count the number of pages until the next one. It turned one of the characters I most despised into one of the characters I most loved and made me understand his whole journey in a completely different way. From his interactions with Lady Dustin, to the care he took of Jeyne Poole, to his reunion with Asha, the Reek storyline was the highlight of the book for me.
Talin15
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada14 Posts
June 12 2012 21:28 GMT
#998
On June 13 2012 06:12 Quexana wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2012 10:08 Leth0 wrote:
Reek is in book 5, how in the actual shit could anyone not enjoy book 5?! I am baffled. Oh well everyone is entitled to their opinions, I'm one of the people who has really enjoyed each of the books so far. I don't think I could number them out of which I enjoyed the least or most, it's all one story for me, there has been slow points and really tense or exciting moments in every one of them.

Cheers.


Pretty much this. The Reek storyline is one of the most compelling, emotionally jarring reading experiences I have ever had. I'd get to the end of each Reek chapter and turn in the book to count the number of pages until the next one. It turned one of the characters I most despised into one of the characters I most loved and made me understand his whole journey in a completely different way. From his interactions with Lady Dustin, to the care he took of Jeyne Poole, to his reunion with Asha, the Reek storyline was the highlight of the book for me.


I have to agree, it really came into picture for me how much i loved reek's story line when i was talking to my friend who just got on book 4 and i just kept thinking that was when reek started to come into play it's just any amazing and well written part of the books and one of my favorites so far within the series.
"Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when Death has come , we are not." - Epicurus
hooahah
Profile Joined October 2011
3752 Posts
June 12 2012 22:00 GMT
#999
On May 26 2012 05:32 sOda~ wrote:
jon.... ;______;


DANCE WITH DRAGONS SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
He's alive. Remember the Azor Ahai prophecy...between smoke and salt, under a bleeding star, Azor Ahai will be reborn.

Reread that scene - salt from the tears, smoke from the wound, and blood from the dying knight's star emblem...
Porkz
Profile Joined December 2010
Denmark1027 Posts
June 12 2012 22:22 GMT
#1000
On June 13 2012 07:00 hooahah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2012 05:32 sOda~ wrote:
jon.... ;______;


DANCE WITH DRAGONS SPOILERS
+ Show Spoiler +
He's alive. Remember the Azor Ahai prophecy...between smoke and salt, under a bleeding star, Azor Ahai will be reborn.

Reread that scene - salt from the tears, smoke from the wound, and blood from the dying knight's star emblem...

+ Show Spoiler +
I literally gasped and clapped when i read this :D
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