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hp.Shell
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2527 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 20:26:22
April 16 2014 20:25 GMT
#101
I think I use 8, but for Q I have always used my left ring finger instead of pinky. It's easier than lifting my wrist up to allow my pinky to stretch that far. So my left pinky is used for shift, A and Z.

If I'm typing numbers across the top I normally will go with my ring, middle and pointer fingers, as I would in BW.
1212131313

Edit: 114 WPM
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CatNzHat
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States1599 Posts
April 16 2014 20:42 GMT
#102
On April 16 2014 12:56 iTzSnypah wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 12:54 Emerson_H wrote:
8 ofc. How else would I get my 141 wpm avg?

By lying obviously.

once you type that fast you'll realize it's not actually that impressive, sean wrona is insane....
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 20:44:55
April 16 2014 20:42 GMT
#103
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c0ldfusion
Profile Joined October 2010
United States8293 Posts
April 16 2014 20:57 GMT
#104
On April 17 2014 03:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
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On April 17 2014 03:19 o29 wrote:
This is an interesting topic to me. Until recently I thought I typed with all 8 of my fingers, but I had an epiphany when I realized that I only use about 4, and most of the time, only 3. I use my left hand middle finger, my left pointer finger, and my right pointer finger. My left ring finger is only used for Q, A, and Z, so a lot of the time I'm only really using 3 fingers to type. This seems terribly inefficient. I type around 70-80 WPM casually and can go up to 80-90 if I'm trying to type quickly. I tried to take the test in the OP but it wouldn't load properly on my work computer.

It's good to see that others also have strange and inefficient typing habbits as I thought I was the only one. It would probably be tremendously helpful to my WPM if I actually learned to use all fingers, but I'm not sure it's worth the headache that I'd have to go through to relearn how to type.

And as someone else mentioned, I also have the strange habit of only using the right shift key.

The next logical question is whether or not you keep your fingers on the proper home keys. I remember back when we were forced to "learn" typing in high school, the teacher would walk around and scrutinize everyone's hand position. We'd all have to scramble and put our fingers back on the home row -- shortly before reverting back to our old bad habits as he'd walk away. I have my own default hand position for my left hand, usually with my pinky on control, but my right hand moves around the keyboard so much that a default position for it isn't very beneficial.


Using proper technique usually your left pinky is only used for Q,A,Z, and that's what you do with your ring finger, and as such I definitely would consider that typing with 4 fingers. The below is the proper form that you should use when typing:

[image loading]

Why would you use your index finger for r, that makes no sense. Middle finger is way closer.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 21:00:35
April 16 2014 20:59 GMT
#105
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 21:11:34
April 16 2014 21:01 GMT
#106
On April 17 2014 05:57 c0ldfusion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 03:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
On April 17 2014 03:19 o29 wrote:
This is an interesting topic to me. Until recently I thought I typed with all 8 of my fingers, but I had an epiphany when I realized that I only use about 4, and most of the time, only 3. I use my left hand middle finger, my left pointer finger, and my right pointer finger. My left ring finger is only used for Q, A, and Z, so a lot of the time I'm only really using 3 fingers to type. This seems terribly inefficient. I type around 70-80 WPM casually and can go up to 80-90 if I'm trying to type quickly. I tried to take the test in the OP but it wouldn't load properly on my work computer.

It's good to see that others also have strange and inefficient typing habbits as I thought I was the only one. It would probably be tremendously helpful to my WPM if I actually learned to use all fingers, but I'm not sure it's worth the headache that I'd have to go through to relearn how to type.

And as someone else mentioned, I also have the strange habit of only using the right shift key.

The next logical question is whether or not you keep your fingers on the proper home keys. I remember back when we were forced to "learn" typing in high school, the teacher would walk around and scrutinize everyone's hand position. We'd all have to scramble and put our fingers back on the home row -- shortly before reverting back to our old bad habits as he'd walk away. I have my own default hand position for my left hand, usually with my pinky on control, but my right hand moves around the keyboard so much that a default position for it isn't very beneficial.


Using proper technique usually your left pinky is only used for Q,A,Z, and that's what you do with your ring finger, and as such I definitely would consider that typing with 4 fingers. The below is the proper form that you should use when typing:

[image loading]

Why would you use your index finger for r, that makes no sense. Middle finger is way closer.


I didn't make it taught, however that is the way it is taught essentially everywhere. If you disagree with what they are teaching, feel free to contact the people who create instruction for this topic. S;

On April 17 2014 05:42 krndandaman wrote:
8 fingers

130-150 WPM usually

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On April 17 2014 05:42 CatNzHat wrote:
On April 16 2014 12:56 iTzSnypah wrote:
On April 16 2014 12:54 Emerson_H wrote:
8 ofc. How else would I get my 141 wpm avg?

By lying obviously.

once you type that fast you'll realize it's not actually that impressive, sean wrona is insane....


I always thought 130+ WPM was normal until me and my friends started dicking around during research class and played typeracer. I saw the standings and saw 150-160 WPM at rank 1 and thought "what that's not so high". placed 1st there a few times but usually top 10 for the day.


Saying it's not impressive or absurd is silly though. when only about 0.025-0.05% (1 in 2000-4000) of the population can type at 130wpm+ it is impressive. I would be willing to bet you several hundred of dollars that you wont find more than 5 people on teamliquid that can maintain a 130wpm+ for 15 minutes.

Remember, everyone will do the test, type fast for 30 seconds, and then brag about how fast they type. I really don't understand why everyone has such a need to talk about their score like it's nothing impressive but say they have 120wpm, and it is impressive, and very likely this a burst speed they are reporting, opposed to something the thread is actually trying to achieve.

I would much rather we discuss the health effects of typing styles, how to improve typing style, etc. For 99% of the population if they can maintain 80wpm, they have all the typing they need. Going above 80wpm isn't necessary for an average person because you don't have enough time to formulate what you wish to type, and it's just really not necessary besides when you are transcribing information and minimal thinking is required, which is essentially never for a lot of people.

The reality is, I am very certain that at max 1/3 of teamliquid can actually type at a consistent 80wpm, and improving the typing speed of these people should take precedent opposed to bragging about typing speed.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
April 16 2014 21:19 GMT
#107
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psychopat
Profile Joined October 2009
Canada417 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 21:53:08
April 16 2014 21:45 GMT
#108
On April 17 2014 06:01 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Saying it's not impressive or absurd is silly though. when only about 0.025-0.05% (1 in 2000-4000) of the population can type at 130wpm+ it is impressive. I would be willing to bet you several hundred of dollars that you wont find more than 5 people on teamliquid that can maintain a 130wpm+ for 15 minutes.

Remember, everyone will do the test, type fast for 30 seconds, and then brag about how fast they type. I really don't understand why everyone has such a need to talk about their score like it's nothing impressive but say they have 120wpm, and it is impressive, and very likely this a burst speed they are reporting, opposed to something the thread is actually trying to achieve.
Keep in mind that as you get better, your standards for what is good or impressive keep going up. I'm sorry, but I don't think that 100wpm is impressive. I am actually disappointed whenever I do a typing test and get a 100wpm, 100% accuracy result. I used to think it was completely amazing, but as I played MUDs and such when I was younger, I got better and I left that plateau behind me for a long time ago. In those games, if you didn't type accurately and quickly, you often died.

The same phenomenon happens to everyone in pretty much anything. Do you think Ovechkin thinks 30 goals in a season is impressive? No. Only 21 guys in the league managed it this year but the 30 goal plateau is well beneath his expectations to the point where he'd be disappointed if he only put up 30 goals in a complete regular season. Do you think Jordan or James would be happy with a 15-point game? How about Usain Bolt with an 10-second race?

There's a reason why I included my average through about 500 races, my peak and my last 10 on that site. I'm not trying to show off. If anything, having a 18wpm difference between my average and my best really shows that if you only look at a singular instance, it's easy to misrepresent yourself and to make you seem better than you actually are. You view it as bragging, likely because that speed is ridiculous to you. It's simply because your frame of reference is different.

I know that overall, I'm a good typist, but people like Wrona or ChanmanX are the ones I consider insane & amazing. They leave me in the dust and type something like 50% faster than I do.

That said, I know I don't use a proper typing style. I don't particularly care to fix it because, when I do try to use a proper typing style, I lose about 50-60wpm. That drop in speed feels kind of like the same way you feel when you're in a 50km/h zone after just getting off the highway. As you said, after a certain point, more speed becomes kind of pointless so I've never felt the need to go back and fix my technique to improve at something that will be pretty useless.

As for the ergonomics of it all, if I felt that my typing technique was causing me issues, the first thing I would do is look into getting one of those keyboards that are split down the middle so that your wrists are at a better angle. I feel that that's going to have a much larger effect than trying to change which finger I use for which key. It would also force me to relearn a bit since I often use the wrong finger for the keys in the middle (TYGHVBN) in the interest of avoiding the use of the same finger twice in a row for different keys.

edit: for what it's worth, I tried 10 fast fingers to compare it to typeracer... 10 fast finger, over 20 tests, I average 11wpm more. The words they put up are generally easier and you don't have to worry about punctuation and pretty much the only capitalized word I saw was "Indian". That skews the results upwards, I find.
red_hq
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada450 Posts
April 16 2014 21:49 GMT
#109
I do novel in a month contests (NanoWrimo) where the objective is to write a novel (approx 50k words) in a month. Typing tests give me an accuracy of about 95% at 60wpm or 35wpm at 100% but when I don't really worry about punctuation or accuracy I get it up to about 90-100 wpm sustained for over an hour. During this time I'm usually typing with 5-7 fingers (2-3 left and 3-4 right) depending on posture.
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LoLAdriankat
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4307 Posts
April 16 2014 21:55 GMT
#110
I'd like to see someone type with 8 fingers with fingers as long and hands as big as mine. It's incredibly uncomfortable for me.
Staboteur
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada1873 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 22:08:03
April 16 2014 21:56 GMT
#111
On April 17 2014 03:24 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 03:19 o29 wrote:
This is an interesting topic to me. Until recently I thought I typed with all 8 of my fingers, but I had an epiphany when I realized that I only use about 4, and most of the time, only 3. I use my left hand middle finger, my left pointer finger, and my right pointer finger. My left ring finger is only used for Q, A, and Z, so a lot of the time I'm only really using 3 fingers to type. This seems terribly inefficient. I type around 70-80 WPM casually and can go up to 80-90 if I'm trying to type quickly. I tried to take the test in the OP but it wouldn't load properly on my work computer.

It's good to see that others also have strange and inefficient typing habbits as I thought I was the only one. It would probably be tremendously helpful to my WPM if I actually learned to use all fingers, but I'm not sure it's worth the headache that I'd have to go through to relearn how to type.

And as someone else mentioned, I also have the strange habit of only using the right shift key.

The next logical question is whether or not you keep your fingers on the proper home keys. I remember back when we were forced to "learn" typing in high school, the teacher would walk around and scrutinize everyone's hand position. We'd all have to scramble and put our fingers back on the home row -- shortly before reverting back to our old bad habits as he'd walk away. I have my own default hand position for my left hand, usually with my pinky on control, but my right hand moves around the keyboard so much that a default position for it isn't very beneficial.


Using proper technique usually your left pinky is only used for Q,A,Z, and that's what you do with your ring finger, and as such I definitely would consider that typing with 4 fingers. The below is the proper form that you should use when typing:

[image loading]


This seems bad. Type "As she is a citizen of Zimbabwe, I question the Queen of England's right to the throne!"
Point being, having your pinkies in control of modifier keys and the buttons they modify is impossible. Try alt+0169

Apparently I "type with 6 fingers" meaning that pinkies are modifiers / backspace / return, and thumb is space.

Stranger still is that for the WPM test, I'll routinely get ~70 wpm on "normal" paragraphs, but drop to 60 wpm in obnoxious paragraphs that force me to spell out Massachusetts or Declaration of Independence or other irritating proper nouns I'll never have typed before. Bring on the Saskatchewan and Inuktitut and Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump!

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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
April 16 2014 21:59 GMT
#112
On April 16 2014 14:25 Shellshock wrote:
I got 102 wpm with a few mistakes. use 8 fingers. Learned to type quickly originally from playing FPS without a mic and then got faster as I started LRing I suppose. I think just having a task to complete just builds up the speed over time. When I would just use the computer for whatever I wouldn't really improve my typing speed. I still trip up pretty badly on things like quotes and numbers. I can usually hit letters on the first try going quickly as possible but I'll transpose some letters every few words. I do feel like I could probably type faster though since I still make mistakes.

Does anyone ever use the left shift btw? I notice that I exclusively use the right shift button

Do you guys transpose letters a lot? Maybe I am just thinking too far ahead or something so I mess up. Might just be that my right hand is quicker than my left because it's usually a right handed letter that gets placed too early.

I have 90 WPM on 8 fingers. I didn't get faster by LR'ing, I actually have no idea how I have 90 WPM considering I used to make a lot of mistakes when typing and I didn't really practicing. I thought I was really fast compared to the average, guess not ^_-.

Also I only use the right shift button, never the left shift.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 16 2014 22:00 GMT
#113
On April 17 2014 06:56 Staboteur wrote:
Apparently I type with 6.

Stranger still is that for the WPM test, I'll routinely get ~70 wpm on "normal" paragraphs, but drop to 60 wpm in obnoxious paragraphs that force me to spell out Massachusetts or Declaration of Independence or other irritating proper nouns I'll never have typed before. Bring on the Saskatchewan and Inuktitut and Head-Smashed-In Buffalo Jump!


Haha amen, Alberta here, so I feel you. It is very noticeable that the test is designed for US students/citizen, so many things about Presidents and laws in the US, and about all their states, but still some interesting tidbits of information in there.

I also fluctuate as low as 65-70 on the really dumb paragraphs, but on the better ones I can go as high as 110wpm once in a while. Goes to show how large the standard deviation for typing is.
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Just_a_Moth
Profile Joined March 2012
Canada1952 Posts
April 16 2014 22:03 GMT
#114
I'm not a fast typer, but I have to say having to type brackets in that WPM tester really slowed me down. Not used to typing brackets that often.

Anyways, i got 35.2 wpm with 95.9% accuracy.
ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
April 16 2014 22:04 GMT
#115
On April 17 2014 06:55 LoLAdriankat wrote:
I'd like to see someone type with 8 fingers with fingers as long and hands as big as mine. It's incredibly uncomfortable for me.


Obviously I don't know how big your hands are, but I have pretty large hands by my standards and type with 8 fingers just fine. It's probably a hand positioning thing.
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 16 2014 22:07 GMT
#116
On April 17 2014 06:59 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 16 2014 14:25 Shellshock wrote:
I got 102 wpm with a few mistakes. use 8 fingers. Learned to type quickly originally from playing FPS without a mic and then got faster as I started LRing I suppose. I think just having a task to complete just builds up the speed over time. When I would just use the computer for whatever I wouldn't really improve my typing speed. I still trip up pretty badly on things like quotes and numbers. I can usually hit letters on the first try going quickly as possible but I'll transpose some letters every few words. I do feel like I could probably type faster though since I still make mistakes.

Does anyone ever use the left shift btw? I notice that I exclusively use the right shift button

Do you guys transpose letters a lot? Maybe I am just thinking too far ahead or something so I mess up. Might just be that my right hand is quicker than my left because it's usually a right handed letter that gets placed too early.

I have 90 WPM on 8 fingers. I didn't get faster by LR'ing, I actually have no idea how I have 90 WPM considering I used to make a lot of mistakes when typing and I didn't really practicing. I thought I was really fast compared to the average, guess not ^_-.

Also I only use the right shift button, never the left shift.


I just did a typing speed test that gives you the percentile, and I typed at 93wpm, and I was in the 97.24% percentile. So you're probably top 3%, so that is very good and not just average S;

It's really hard to get accurate data on this is the issue. Because specific demographics will do these tests more likely. And many people do this test more than once, who are the people who do the test more than once. So it's very difficult to get a mean typing speed of the population given information received by the Typing Speed Test websites.
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crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-04-16 22:09:37
April 16 2014 22:07 GMT
#117
I'm typing this sentence to figure out how many figures i type with. I will conclude that after much studying that I use all 8* fingers.


Interesting.



*edit: thumbs don't count as fingers, so it's only 8, sorry. ~_~
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slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
April 16 2014 22:08 GMT
#118
Can you post a decent resolution video of you typing at 90wpm (or +) with 5 fingers by any chance? I'm actually quite curious.
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FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
April 16 2014 22:11 GMT
#119
On April 17 2014 07:08 slam wrote:
Can you post a decent resolution video of you typing at 90wpm (or +) with 5 fingers by any chance? I'm actually quite curious.


I'll do it with 4 (;

Link me a test you'd like me to do? Or is the first one in the op alright? I don't have a webcam, so it'll take a while for me to post because I have to make my camera setup, but I'll figure something out.
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slam
Profile Joined May 2010
United States923 Posts
April 16 2014 22:16 GMT
#120
On April 17 2014 07:11 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 17 2014 07:08 slam wrote:
Can you post a decent resolution video of you typing at 90wpm (or +) with 5 fingers by any chance? I'm actually quite curious.


I'll do it with 4 (;

Link me a test you'd like me to do? Or is the first one in the op alright? I don't have a webcam, so it'll take a while for me to post because I have to make my camera setup, but I'll figure something out.

Any test is fine, doesn't even have to be a test. I just wanna see someone type faster than me (80wpm on the tests) with only 4 fingers haha.
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