On March 10 2014 18:08 Pandemona wrote: Yeah i know the stats and i agree with them. It is just your not in control of an airplane where as your in control of your own car and i don't use public transport so if i die on a road traffic accident it is still me driving xD Rather than if im on a plane and it "disappears" not much you can do
For me it is just the opposite. When I am driving I am anticipating that something could happen, like the stuff you see on Russian dash cam videos, a truck steering on your side or whatever. I feel like I have to be prepared to react in such a case, so I am always somewhat tense when driving, which is why I cant enjoy it whatsoever. In contrast when I use public transport, like a plane, I know that I cant do anything anyway, so I just relax.
Ahh fair enough. I guess everyone to their own. Im a petrol head anyway (lol even though i drive a diesel haha) so i love driving and being in control. Plus i know my limits and always feel in control. But like i am happy to agree with it is not just you yourself you have to be aware of when driving it is the other 100s of people who might be careless and cause the issue. At least with airplanes it is the computer 90% of the time that is doing anything and the humans are their to help it along. Just the issue is your 35,000 ft in the sky
Source close to investigation says flight MH370 "is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000ft".
We heard this yes? Not sure how old that is but it is in the timeline from www.skynews.com
Current sources have found no debris related to the crash. The oil slicks and random things they found weren't from the plane. If it did disintegrate at high altitude, where are the pieces?
Does Sky even have reporters there or is that op-ed speculation presented as fact.
Source close to investigation says flight MH370 "is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000ft".
We heard this yes? Not sure how old that is but it is in the timeline from www.skynews.com
Current sources have found no debris related to the crash. The oil slicks and random things they found weren't from the plane. If it did disintegrate at high altitude, where are the pieces?
Does Sky even have reporters there or is that op-ed speculation presented as fact.
My understanding is disintegration at high altitude would account for not finding debris. Plane falls apart into a ton of pieces none of which you are likely to find in the sea. If it crashes more or less intact into the ocean you would have expected them to find something.
If you want to bring the Bermuda Triangle sort of angle into this, the expansion of the search areas may indicate they think that the plane got lost.
An instrumentation error and a communications error, coupled with human error means that plane could be pretty much anywhere based on the fuel load-out of the plane.
In 1945, a flight of five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers got lost around Florida, became disoriented, and had to ditch.
The two men who used stolen passports to board a Malaysian jetliner that went missing on Saturday were not of Asian appearance, the chief Malaysian investigator said on Monday.
Source close to investigation says flight MH370 "is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000ft".
We heard this yes? Not sure how old that is but it is in the timeline from www.skynews.com
Current sources have found no debris related to the crash. The oil slicks and random things they found weren't from the plane. If it did disintegrate at high altitude, where are the pieces?
Does Sky even have reporters there or is that op-ed speculation presented as fact.
Well something similar happed to AirFrance 447 except it very obviously flew into a storm. It took about 5 days before major wreckage was recovered. They found a oil slick and a little bit of wreckage sooner though.
I'm curious if there is any follow up to the oil slick they found. It is not uncommon for pilots to dump fuel in case of an emergency. You want to ditch as much of it as possible if you are going to crash.
If it was a highjacking you would think there would have been some type of call about it. Don't most planes have satellite phones and what not that the flight crew can use if needed? Also, what about cell phones? I guess they are in the middle of the sea so I guess there might not be any service at all but /shrug. Just thinking here.
It is absolutely crazy there hasn't been anything found out about the plane yet. If a plane completely lost all power, how far could it still get before it actually crashes? I'm sure one of you math gurus could figure it out by the altitude + how fast it was going etc etc. Like would their search area even be big enough? Would the pilots be able to turn the plan somehow?
Just crazy to think about considering how many different countries are searching for it.
Has it been confirmed that about 40 of the passengers were all employees of the same Texas company? I read on one site they were working on some electric car.... hhhmmmmmm
I am confused by the BBCNEws graphic posted that shows 2 very different search areas.
I get it if say they are expanding the search area but within the same zone.
Why is that there are searching for it in the other side of Malaysia in the Malacca strait? If the graphic is correct, it clearly shows the last known location before the plane disappeared off radar and contact was lost.
Why would they try and look for it on the other side?
In order for it to even get there from the last known location, it would have to cross over land, which would make it easier to detect and give access to a mode of communication right? Like cellphones if the radio was down?
Don't planes nowadays rely on GPS as well to know they are on the right path/area so as not to get lost and wander off to a different area where they ought not to be?
I just don't understand why there are 2 distinctly different areas you are looking at.
The search area over land is something I;m not sure off (if the graphic is correct). It assumes (maybe) the plane trying to turn back but not making it? Or forced to land before reaching the airport maybe.
On March 11 2014 01:23 SidianTheBard wrote: If it was a highjacking you would think there would have been some type of call about it. Don't most planes have satellite phones and what not that the flight crew can use if needed? Also, what about cell phones? I guess they are in the middle of the sea so I guess there might not be any service at all but /shrug. Just thinking here.
It is absolutely crazy there hasn't been anything found out about the plane yet. If a plane completely lost all power, how far could it still get before it actually crashes? I'm sure one of you math gurus could figure it out by the altitude + how fast it was going etc etc. Like would their search area even be big enough? Would the pilots be able to turn the plan somehow?
Just crazy to think about considering how many different countries are searching for it.
The search area must also account for the ocean's drift, which can expand the original search area at the time of the crash by hundreds of miles radially.
Source close to investigation says flight MH370 "is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000ft".
We heard this yes? Not sure how old that is but it is in the timeline from www.skynews.com
Current sources have found no debris related to the crash. The oil slicks and random things they found weren't from the plane. If it did disintegrate at high altitude, where are the pieces?
Does Sky even have reporters there or is that op-ed speculation presented as fact.
Well something similar happed to AirFrance 447 except it very obviously flew into a storm. It took about 5 days before major wreckage was recovered. They found a oil slick and a little bit of wreckage sooner though.
I'm curious if there is any follow up to the oil slick they found. It is not uncommon for pilots to dump fuel in case of an emergency. You want to ditch as much of it as possible if you are going to crash.
The oil slick did not beling to the missing aircraft. At least that's what I read on The Malaysian Insider.
On March 11 2014 01:31 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: Has it been confirmed that about 40 of the passengers were all employees of the same Texas company? I read on one site they were working on some electric car.... hhhmmmmmm
I'm sure you can find that site again on post it here?
On March 11 2014 01:31 HelpMeGetBetter wrote: Has it been confirmed that about 40 of the passengers were all employees of the same Texas company? I read on one site they were working on some electric car.... hhhmmmmmm
I'm sure you can find that site again on post it here?
Freescale has 20 employees on board. 11 are from Malaysia, which are the colleagues of my friend. 1 of them a former class-mate of ours.
On March 11 2014 01:23 SidianTheBard wrote: If it was a highjacking you would think there would have been some type of call about it. Don't most planes have satellite phones and what not that the flight crew can use if needed? Also, what about cell phones? I guess they are in the middle of the sea so I guess there might not be any service at all but /shrug. Just thinking here.
It is absolutely crazy there hasn't been anything found out about the plane yet. If a plane completely lost all power, how far could it still get before it actually crashes? I'm sure one of you math gurus could figure it out by the altitude + how fast it was going etc etc. Like would their search area even be big enough? Would the pilots be able to turn the plan somehow?
Just crazy to think about considering how many different countries are searching for it.
ive read about 20 minutes if engines goes out, this is of course assuming normal altitude + speed
On March 11 2014 01:52 17Sphynx17 wrote: I am confused by the BBCNEws graphic posted that shows 2 very different search areas.
I get it if say they are expanding the search area but within the same zone.
Why is that there are searching for it in the other side of Malaysia in the Malacca strait? If the graphic is correct, it clearly shows the last known location before the plane disappeared off radar and contact was lost.
Why would they try and look for it on the other side?
In order for it to even get there from the last known location, it would have to cross over land, which would make it easier to detect and give access to a mode of communication right? Like cellphones if the radio was down?
Don't planes nowadays rely on GPS as well to know they are on the right path/area so as not to get lost and wander off to a different area where they ought not to be?
I just don't understand why there are 2 distinctly different areas you are looking at.
The search area over land is something I;m not sure off (if the graphic is correct). It assumes (maybe) the plane trying to turn back but not making it? Or forced to land before reaching the airport maybe.
they are assuming if it turned off course or got lost and went the opposite direction. i think if it crashed over land, it would have been seen by now by people or satellites
Source close to investigation says flight MH370 "is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000ft".
We heard this yes? Not sure how old that is but it is in the timeline from www.skynews.com
Current sources have found no debris related to the crash. The oil slicks and random things they found weren't from the plane. If it did disintegrate at high altitude, where are the pieces?
Does Sky even have reporters there or is that op-ed speculation presented as fact.
Well something similar happed to AirFrance 447 except it very obviously flew into a storm. It took about 5 days before major wreckage was recovered. They found a oil slick and a little bit of wreckage sooner though.
I'm curious if there is any follow up to the oil slick they found. It is not uncommon for pilots to dump fuel in case of an emergency. You want to ditch as much of it as possible if you are going to crash.
i think theyve already said the oil slick was not from the plane
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