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the living legend
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lil.sis
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On August 22 2006 08:31 WhatisProtoss wrote: ![]() you are wrong | ||
haduken
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rpf289
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Although, I'm curious--what if dark matter exists in other places, such as on the Earth itself? I mean, if we can't see it, how do we know it's there (or isn't there)? I'm also curious if dark matter can be passed through, or if it's still a solid, although it isn't visible. | ||
WhatisProtoss
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merz
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haduken
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the living legend
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maoam
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sundance
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As far as i don't care about Reason (i just ignore him) , Whatisprotoss is completly ridiculously clueless idiot.You have no clue about so many things and you still for some reason like to post your idiotic posts. EDIT: I'm not talking about that GPS thing. | ||
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Bill307
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Basically, the frequency emitted by GPS satellites is about 0.00000005% slower than the frequency that we receive on earth. The satellites intentionally emit a frequency slightly slower than the one we want to receive here on Earth to compensate for time dilation effects. General relativity doesn't appear anywhere else in that article. | ||
maoam
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Bill307
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Edit: Okay, there is only ONE relevant paragraph in the whole bloody article. Honestly this is the last time I am ever going to read something like that again. Next time, quote the relevant sections, or else I think it's fair for everyone to disregard it. It is completely false that the design of the GPS system ignores relativity theory. Relativistic effects in the GPS system are vitally important. The total difference in the rate of atomic clocks on board a GPS satellite and the reference clock at the USNO amounts to some 38,600 nanoseconds per day. (This is mostly due to a combination of the Sagnac effect for a clock which is moving wrt the GPS receiver, and the relative gravitational time dilation between a stationary clock on the Earth's surface and a stationary clock 20,200 km above the surface, as mentioned in the above quoted paragraph from Ashby's paper; frequency shifts in clocks on the ground wrt UTC due to inhomogeneties in the shape of the Earth also play a role.) In contrast, in order to maintain the accuracies listed above, the GPS system must maintain a timekeeping synchrony within 10 nanoseconds variation per day, indefinitely! The major way in which the 38,600 nanosecond per day discrepancy due to relativistic effects is accounted for is by building into the GPS software used to keep the satellite clocks in synch with each other and to synchronize GPS time with UTC an effective downward frequency shift of 446.47 parts per trillion in the orbiting atomic clocks. In addition to this basic conversion factor, GPS receivers are programmed to take account for the fact that slight eccentricities in the satellite orbits result in tiny periodic changes in the frequency of the orbiting clocks. The best part is that it doesn't even tell us how much accuracy we would lose if we did not take time dilation into account. So in conclusion, unless you can explain otherwise, this article is useless. | ||
maoam
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Bill307
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On August 22 2006 11:48 maoam wrote: You're right it does get quite technical, but I'd rather you didn't take my word for it. Then post the link AND quote the key parts of the text. That way, if someone doesn't want to take your word for it, then they can just go and read the whole article. Edit: by the way, before today I had always believed that it was crucial for GPS to take general relativity into account. But honestly, right now I'm just not seeing the evidence to back it up. | ||
maoam
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mel_ee
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haduken
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