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Belgium8305 Posts
On August 21 2006 20:58 CaucasianAsian wrote:
wait wtf gravity is not what really what we thought?
WTF I'm going to finally jump off of a cliff without a parachute now that I know gravity is different! WOOT!
read the article, the entire point of it is that this new observation discredits theories about gravity being different on huge scales and confirms the dark matter theory
On August 22 2006 05:35 HnR)hT wrote:
Well, based on the article linked in the original post what is claimed to be the "proof" of dark matter is a new observation (collision of galactic clusters followed by a "separation" of dark matter and hot gas) which discredits some of the competing theories based presumably on modified general relativity. No doubt this is a quasi- big deal to the astrophysics community, but the article is sensationalized. It's just more evidence of what everyone already thought without any new hint as to the composition of dark matter...
it's a pretty big deal because this is the first time they found any direct evidence
up until this point they just had to assume dark matter was there because of its measurable effects, but it could also have been caused by gravity doing some funky things on a huge scale, which can now be ruled out
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The only news in this finding is that it has made it easier for some physicists to grasp the concept of dark matter and black holes, and thereby increasing their motivation for researching further, and perhaps onto more relevant areas of physics. The idea of a form of matter that is only affected by the gravitational force, based on large scale astronomical observations, has been around for some time.
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Braavos36389 Posts
On August 22 2006 02:42 IcedEarth wrote:
It's all over, Magus > us.
hahahaha grey spinny triangle FTW
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Sweden33719 Posts
On August 21 2006 21:00 Sabbath wrote:
so THATS where testie's ego is hidden
we all knew it wouldnt fit in his head
Rofl
:D
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On August 22 2006 04:26 Reason wrote:
One hundred years ago humans worldwide lived a much more primitive lifestyle in comparison to today, your grandparents were raised by people brought up in victorian times for fucks sake...
a hundred years might seem like a long time to you but believe me, it's not, and no one on this planet (in the present) knows enough or has the right to say dark matter has "no practical application"...
you don't have a clue what you are talking about...
Edit: No offence man but what DO you know about dark matter?
Where are you getting this "has no practical application" view from, do you actually have any knowledge on the subject whatsoever =/?
I think this is very interesting...
Actually, I do have knowledge on this subject. Do YOU? Probably not. Sure, it's interesting, I didn't say it wasn't. Dark matter is just basically compacted mass which is super-dense enough to not emit light. Simple. The only problem was trying to verify their existence through the patterns and behavior of nearby light-emitting systems. And that was possible by the observation of "collisions" and trying to remap how those particular shapes were formed as light/dark matter systems passed through one another.
And how is this going to benefit us? We are going to... live on dark matter? No, our bodies can't handle that kind of pressure for even a split second. We are going to..... USE this dark matter? We won't be able to isolate this matter in small quantities even IF we were able to get close enough to any type of dark matter.
The thought process on dark matter has been going on for a while. We know it exists (theoretically) and we know what it does (theoretically).
Why is this different from what you say? Okay, so if the primitive people knew what a car was, knew that it existed and what purpose it served... then they would know that they could USE it. Don't compare cosmos to civilization, idiot. Civilization is the creation of technology with the specific purpose in which to better our lives. Studying dark matter has no such intent.
Stop making your bullshit entries. You just throw shit out trying to belie your apparent low IQ.
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No I don't have knowledge on the subject, that's not important.
I also never said you didn't find it interesting... do you have a problem with me saying that I find it interesting? =/ Why the hell are you being so rude ?? I did say no offence!? I was just trying to point something out...
The point I am making is that if we are just discovering/theorising something you're not in the position to pronounce that it has no practical application. That's beyond blatant and yet your managing to call me an idiot with a low IQ.
suck my motherfucking dick
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your grandparents were raised by people brought up in victorian times for fucks sake...
See? You are being rude, so I become rude back.
you don't have a clue what you are talking about...
Edit: No offence man but what DO you know about dark matter?
No I don't have knowledge on the subject, that's not important.
So, you DON'T know about dark matter. Yet, you proceed to try and bash others: "Do YOU know about dark matter? No!"
Tell me, what theory cosmos-based has been used for practical applications? Theory of relativity? Does it? Give me an example.
Did you just imply that you had a dick? @_@ No WAY!
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Sweden33719 Posts
I don't think he meant to be offensive with the thing about 'your' grandparents, because EVERYONES grandparents were raised by people brought up in the victorian era 
I think he was just making a point, that things can change drastically, and a 100 years from now this might have some very practical application (I don't know if that's realistic, but I think that was his point) that today we can't see or understand.
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hmm im gonna switch things up, im rooting for reason
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On August 22 2006 07:52 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Tell me, what theory cosmos-based has been used for practical applications? Theory of relativity? Does it? Give me an example.
Well, since it's so easy to give examples for Newtonian gravitation, I'll supply one for general relativity: GPS. Without GR it would be hopelessly inaccurate.
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Haha argueing over dark stuff you guys rock. Dont kill eachother with laserbeams and starwars sticks please!
or actually do!
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On August 22 2006 08:00 lawl mart wrote:
hmm im gonna switch things up, im rooting for reason
lol
I'm with whatis on this one. just for this witty one - [quote]Did you just imply that you had a dick? @_@ No WAY![quote]
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Strafe, why don't you explore physics today, and test whether or not nuclear strong beats gravity: a tall building, a sidewalk, and a pair of legs to jump with are all the equipment you need.
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reading stuff like this makes me feel ilke an aunt
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anyone want some chocolate cake? i baked it myself....
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On August 22 2006 07:52 WhatisProtoss wrote:Show nested quote +your grandparents were raised by people brought up in victorian times for fucks sake... See? You are being rude, so I become rude back.Show nested quote +you don't have a clue what you are talking about...
Edit: No offence man but what DO you know about dark matter? So, you DON'T know about dark matter. Yet, you proceed to try and bash others: "Do YOU know about dark matter? No!" Tell me, what theory cosmos-based has been used for practical applications? Theory of relativity? Does it? Give me an example. Did you just imply that you had a dick? @_@ No WAY!
aww man lol FA got it right, On August 22 2006 08:00 FrozenArbiter wrote:I don't think he meant to be offensive with the thing about 'your' grandparents, because EVERYONES grandparents were raised by people brought up in the victorian era I think he was just making a point, that things can change drastically, and a 100 years from now this might have some very practical application (I don't know if that's realistic, but I think that was his point) that today we can't see or understand. im not offending your grandparents
LOL?????
Edit: No offence man but what DO you know about dark matter? [/quote]
No I don't have knowledge on the subject, that's not important.
On August 22 2006 07:52 WhatisProtoss wrote:
So, you DON'T know about dark matter. Yet, you proceed to try and bash others: "Do YOU know about dark matter? No!"
Dude I was never trying to bash you, thus the "no offence"
I know nothing of dark matter, all I was trying to communicate was that I don't think anyone knows enough to say "IT HAS NO PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS".
Annnnnnnnnd if there's anything more lame than your-mom jokes ( still get a chuckle from me occasionaly ) it's dick-less jokes.
Guess what. I am a male.
Guess what. I have a penis..
get over it 
chibi was right strafe, you really are a whore ^^
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On August 22 2006 05:35 HnR)hT wrote:
Well, based on the article linked in the original post what is claimed to be the "proof" of dark matter is a new observation (collision of galactic clusters followed by a "separation" of dark matter and hot gas) which discredits some of the competing theories based presumably on modified general relativity. No doubt this is a quasi- big deal to the astrophysics community, but the article is sensationalized. It's just more evidence of what everyone already thought without any new hint as to the composition of dark matter...
What he said.
And all attention to cosmology/astronomy is welcome imo.
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On August 22 2006 08:07 maoam wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2006 07:52 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Tell me, what theory cosmos-based has been used for practical applications? Theory of relativity? Does it? Give me an example. Well, since it's so easy to give examples for Newtonian gravitation, I'll supply one for general relativity: GPS. Without GR it would be hopelessly inaccurate.
Wrong (that's why I put Theory of relativity out already), GPS is very accurate without relativistic scales. This has already been proved... welcome to 21st century. Plus, the distance at which GPS transmitters are located makes the probable error very small.
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On August 22 2006 08:18 Reason wrote:Guess what. I am a male. Guess what. I have a penis.. get over it
Um, I don't need to state such things to affirm that I am a male. Don't you wink at me, you gay! >.<
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When petroleum was discovered by modern society, people were using whale oil to light their lamps. Once oil came, people discovered that they could light their lamps much more cheaply by refining oil into kerosene.
One of the side products of this refination was gasoline. People had no idea what to do with it, thought it was useless, and threw it away or burned it.
Only time will tell.
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