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marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 23 2014 12:52 GMT
#401
I think Mamedyarov still winning
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
Mafe
Profile Joined February 2011
Germany5966 Posts
March 23 2014 12:55 GMT
#402
On March 23 2014 21:49 urboss wrote:
oh man, houdini was on +10 already for Mamedyarov against Aronian.
now it's almost back to equal.

If I read the computers correctly, Mamedyarov should still have a decisive advantage.
I like Anand, but I wouldn't mind seeing any of the other guys winning here. Looking at Karjakin, I feel he will be the challenger sooner or later. Kramnik getting another chance would also be nice.
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3455 Posts
March 23 2014 13:24 GMT
#403
Looks like we're about to have 4 decisive games today. Very exciting to watch.
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 23 2014 13:27 GMT
#404
other than the one that already finished a draw you mean? :p
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
vndestiny
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Singapore3455 Posts
March 23 2014 13:32 GMT
#405
On March 23 2014 22:27 marvellosity wrote:
other than the one that already finished a draw you mean? :p

Oops caught up on the exciting games I completely forgot about that one . Let's pretend the dull game didnt happend today.
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 23 2014 14:50 GMT
#406
I don't want another Carlsen-Anand either, but this is ridiculously impressive from Vishy. He would've been my last prediction to win the candidates and now he's a full point ahead of the field.

Before the tournament started, Yermolinsky wrote up an article about the chances he thought the different players had. Some excerpts:

I don’t even mention Anand in this context, because Anand will not win in Khanty. Vishy is finished and done for, stick a fork into him. It’s not the fear of Magnus – it’s the fear of playing chess that did Anand in, and it happened some 3-4 years ago.


Now, off to the fun part where I promise to eat my hat. I’ll give two numbers to each player. The first one represents his chances of winning the Candidates, and the second one rates his chances to beat Magnus.

Anand 0% n/a
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
March 23 2014 16:25 GMT
#407
age based xenophobia should just die.
go Anand!
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
mikeymoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada7170 Posts
March 23 2014 16:55 GMT
#408
Anand now 3rd in live ratings.
o_x | Ow. | 1003 ESPORTS dollars | If you have any questions about bans please PM Kennigit
Maenander
Profile Joined November 2002
Germany4926 Posts
March 23 2014 17:16 GMT
#409
Anand looks pretty relaxed in his post game interviews, way less troubled than during the world championship. Maybe the loss of the title gave him new motivation.
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
March 23 2014 17:30 GMT
#410
Behold! The Tiger of Madras has awakened!

[image loading]
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 23 2014 17:36 GMT
#411
Not to downplay Anand, but he has benefitted largely from his main rivals imploding for no real reason. It feels like Anand has played a very Carlsen-style tournament actually - he has made very few mistakes compared to other players, and he has capitalised on his opponent's mistakes when given the chance. Just solid, strong play which has been easily good enough so far.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
JazVM
Profile Joined October 2012
Germany1196 Posts
March 23 2014 18:38 GMT
#412
I can actually see doing Anand well vs. Carlsen this year, or at least better than last time around. Assuming they won't play in India again, Anand will not have the pressure to deliver to his home crowd and holding the title. The only thing that is curious, is that he performed rather poorly in the tournaments right after the WC but seems to be totally on form just a few weeks later. Whatever is the reason, it's nice to see him doing well.
mind mind mind mind mind mind
wingpawn
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Poland1342 Posts
March 23 2014 18:41 GMT
#413
Yeah, it's true. From the distance, it looks like a tournament not really about producing the results, but more about getting messy, unbalanced positions and testing them. Aronian and Svidler do that like every single game and had Peter had more luck and Levon less, those guy could just as well swap their positions in the table compared to what's going on now. On the other hand, there are also no obvious punching bags there and with Karjakin and Mamedyarov bouncing back from early setbacks, everything is possible. On this field of chess kamikazes, Anand's play looks almost Kramnik-esque.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 23 2014 20:25 GMT
#414
On March 24 2014 02:36 marvellosity wrote:
Not to downplay Anand, but he has benefitted largely from his main rivals imploding for no real reason. It feels like Anand has played a very Carlsen-style tournament actually - he has made very few mistakes compared to other players, and he has capitalised on his opponent's mistakes when given the chance. Just solid, strong play which has been easily good enough so far.

I think a lot of this might juts come down to pressure. From Anand's viewpoint, he's regarded as one of the best that's played the game and has already been World Champ. If he didn't place first in this tournament no one would think any less of him and his legacy. The others have a lot more to prove, and with a scary young generation coming through, perhaps it might be some of their last real chances to become World Champ. That different in perspective arguably adds a lot of pressure that Anand isn't experiencing. Thus, implosions.
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
Orome
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Switzerland11984 Posts
March 23 2014 21:24 GMT
#415
You could make the exact same argument for big Vlad though and he's imploding like a champ. Pressure does matter a lot, it's not uncommon to see a player's game look rejuvenated after losing the pressure that comes with being world champion (just look at Kramnik's games after he lost to Anand), but I think there are many more factors at play here. For one thing, people were too quick to write him off entirely. Yes, his play has looked desperately dull and uninspired for years, but it never actually fell off significantly. He didn't win tournaments, but he was always good enough to put up decent results in super GM events. His preparation for the candidates is really impressive, it almost feels like he's better prepared here than he was for Magnus (obviously the openings Carlsen played have a lot to do with that). And no matter how much we want to create a coherent storyline, there's also a lot of luck at play. Vishy's backed his good fortune up with really solid play, but it can't be argued that he's gotten fortunate with the way the event's going as a whole.
On a purely personal note, I'd like to show Yellow the beauty of infinitely repeating Starcraft 2 bunkers. -Boxer
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
March 24 2014 09:36 GMT
#416
Standings:

[image loading]

There are 5 more rounds to go.
Anand is on +3, Aronian is on +1.
If Anand draws all remaining games, Aronian would need to win 3 games to win the tournament!

Anand still has to play Black against Kramnik which will be tough.
He also still has to play against Mamedyarov who seems to be the kamikaze guy in this tournament.


Round 10:
Aronian – Topalov
Anand – Mamedyarov

Round 11:
Svidler – Aronian
Kramnik – Anand

Round 12:
Anand – Andreikin
Aronian – Kramnik

Round 13:
Andreikin – Aronian
Karjakin – Anand

Round 14:
Aronian – Karjakin
Anand – Svidler
urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
March 25 2014 07:17 GMT
#417
Candidates Tournament 2014:



Round 10:
Karjakin – Andreikin
Kramnik – Svidler
Aronian – Topalov
Anand – Mamedyarov


Live streams:

Official stream:
http://www.chessdom.com/candidates-2014-video-stream-live

ICC:
http://www.twitch.tv/internetchessclub

Live computer analysis:
http://www.chessdom.com/candidates-chess-2014-live
http://chessbomb.com/site

urboss
Profile Joined September 2013
Austria1223 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-03-25 09:56:32
March 25 2014 09:54 GMT
#418
Anand gets a quick draw...
Edit: Not.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
March 25 2014 10:24 GMT
#419
On March 25 2014 18:54 urboss wrote:
Anand gets a quick draw...
Edit: Not.

haha it was looking very close there for a moment
Administrator~ Spirit will set you free ~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
March 25 2014 11:02 GMT
#420
These games are not grabbing me today.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
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